MCU Fight: Thanos (No Stones) Vs. Hela

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We will be doing VS. battles for the MCU every week and will be using the Winners and Losers to create an accurate power tier list created by some of it's biggest fans (you). So don't forget to VOTE and after voting for a Winner please include a comment on which power tier, both the Winner and Loser should reside within. Also, see below for more details on the characters abilities as well as for a list of available power tiers to choose from.

This is a rematch because The Russos have since stated that Thanos wasn't using the Power Stone vs Hulk. So the version of Thanos in the Transcendent tier is now "Thanos (No Stones)" instead of "Thanos (w/ Power Stone)".

Don't forget to put which Tier group you think Thanos (No Stones) and Hela belong to in your posts. Also, don't forget I've now added the option of being able to change your vote if you change your mind. :up:


So, without further delay here is this week's match up

THANOS (NO STONES)


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HELA


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THANOS (NO STONES)


- Superhuman Strength: Thanos's has displayed incalculably vast levels of superhuman strength, as he is able to wield all six Infinity Stones and the Infinity Gauntlet simultaneously without suffering any strain, which makes Thanos among the strongest beings in the universe. With his strength, Thanos instantly broke out of Groot's vines, sent Drax flying with a kick through stones, destroyed Doctor Strange's Eldritch Magic shield with a kick, effortlessly broke out of Spider-Man's web and used it to pull Spider Man to him as well, as casually pinned down Spider-Man himself with a single hand, easily strangled Loki without the latter being able to break free and snapped his neck with one hand and quickly overpowered and badly injured Iron Man (tearing apart the latter's Mark L nanotech armor and breaking his sword with one hand). Even the combined efforts of Doctor Strange's use of Eldritch Whips to bind Thanos' hand, Spider-Man webbing up his body, Star-Lord using the bottom barell of his blasters to emit streams of electricity, and Drax holding his leg were barely capable of holding Thanos in place long enough for Iron Man to get a grip on his gauntlet and Mantis to put him to sleep, with even then Iron Man and Spider-Man being unable to pull the gauntlet off his arm, due to Star-Lord pausing a few moments too long. While restrained by countless of Eldritch Whips, courtesy of Doctor Strange conjuring thousands of replicas, Thanos was able to still clench the Infinity Gauntlet to break free. Most impressively of all, Thanos was able to quickly rip the Mind Stone out of Vision's extremely durable vibranium forehead, to easily break out from the grip of the immensely strong Hulk and then effortlessly overpower and beat Hulk to a bloody pulp within seconds.

- Superhuman Durability: Thanos has incalculably vast levels of supernatural resilience and durability, rendering him capable of easily handling the Infinity Stones with the Infinity Gauntlet without any strain or harm done to himself, even surviving the power of all six without harm, something that few who have attempted have ever survived. Thanos's durability also allowed him to barely flinch when simultaneously hit in the back by Star-Lord's blasters and slashed in the leg by Drax's knives, later even withstanding Star-Lord's shots without being fazed, to remain completely unfazed by shots from the Winter Soldier, to effortlessly shrug off punches from Spider-Man, to sustain only a slight cut on his face after repeated full-power blows from Iron Man's Mark L armor, to withstand the full force of getting hit by the Milano ship, to withstand full-power energy blasts from Scarlet Witch, and even to be barely fazed by blows from Hulk. Thanos's durability is great enough that it took an attack from Thor wielding Stormbreaker, a weapon so powerful that it was considered the most powerful in Asgard, to finally wound and harm him when the blade got lodged directly in his chest, Thanos retained enough strength to activate and use the Infinity Gauntlet at the scale needed to wipe out half of the universe, surviving such vast display of power despite the severe injury, although it did cause him to briefly entered a catatonic state.

- Superhuman Reflexes: Thanos, despite his size, possess extremely enhanced reflexes, as he was able to easily dodge a few blows from Hulk, and then instantly struck him multiple times before Hulk had a chance to respond. Thanos also easily reacted to Loki's swift attempt to kill him, effortlessly choking Loki to death before the latter could react. With just a single hand, Thanos was able to easily grab Gamora before she could strike him with Godslayer (which Thanos broke in the process), and to even react to the extremely agile Spider-Man's attacks, eventually getting a grip on him and pinning Spider-Man down. He also was able to easily catch Iron Man Mark L Armor's sword and then break it and stab him with the piece before he could react.

- Superhuman Speed: Thanos, despite his large and muscular body, is exceptionally fast, capable of easily outmaneuvering and beating the Hulk in hand-to-hand combat within seconds as well as swiftly pummeling Iron Man in his Mark L Armor in close quarters combat.

- Armor: Thanos utilized a Golden Armor while he was searching for the Infinity Stones. The Armor was resilient enough to resist damage from Hulk's blows. He discarded the Armor upon requiring the Space Stone from Loki.

- Master Combatant: Thanos is among the most powerful warriors in the universe, with millennia worth of fighting experience. Thanos's pheneomonal combat skills supplemented by his colossal physical prowess allow him to easily fight off both Doctor Strange using a sword made of Eldritch Magic, and Drax with his knives and eventually quickly push them back (while his right eye was blinded by a web cotton), to easily fight off and swiftly pummel Spider-Man with only one hand (while his other hand was restricted by the Cloak of Levitation), and to easily defeat and grievously wound Iron Man (despite Iron Man's nanotech Mark L armor and sword), with only Doctor Strange's intervention saving Iron Man from death. Additionally, Thanos easily countered Black Panther's charge by choking him with a single hand and then pummeled him to the ground with a single punch. Most impressively, Thanos was even able to defeat and beat Hulk (the former champion of the Grandmaster's Contest of Champions) to a bloody pulp with ease.

- Master Tactician: Thanos is among the greatest master strategists and tacticians in the universe with centuries of experience in tactical warfare. Thanos's tactical genius and ingenuity allows him to create extremely complex and well-coordinated plans and execute them effectively. Thanos's strategical intuition also allows him to accurately predict incoming events and effectively manipulate said events to his advantage, as he was able to anticipate the Guardians going to Knowhere to retrieve the Reality Stone and arrived there before they could prevent him from taking it. Thanos even went as far as to set up a brilliant trap for the Guardians by casting an illusion to fool them into believing that he is still torturing the Collector.


HELA


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Superhuman Strength: Hela possesses tremendous levels of superhuman strength as the first born of the King of Asgard, which allowed her to single-handedly wipe out all of the Valkyries (with only their leader barely surviving) despite their leader being powerful enough to almost rival the likes of Thor and Hulk, and to even easily catch Mjølnirwith one hand after it was thrown at her with full speed and keeping it from returning to Thor's hand, before crushing it in her hand with no visible effort, in spite of it being one of the most powerful weapons in existence, causing it to explode in a blast of lightning. Hela later slaughtered the Warriors Three and the combined might of the Einherjar with ease. Furthermore, she proved to be a lot stronger than Thor, who was also a child of Odin in two of their three battles, as she easily overpowered Thor, who showed considerable difficulty in fighting Hela while she showed no strain, and Hela was one of the few strong enough to inflict significant damage to her nearly invulnerable younger brother with ease, as she can effortlessly lift him off his feet and throw him around as well as cause him pain. Even with Thor having gained his full powers, Hela still proved to be too strong for him and she managed to fight and stalemate both him and Valkyrie, who she repeatedly knocked away easily.

- Superhuman Durability: Hela's body, much like that of Thor, appears nigh-invulnerable, only to a much greater degree, which allowed Hela to easily block spear strikes from a Gungnir-wielding Thor with her bare hands, and to even catch Mjølnir without injury. Hela was even unharmed after grabbing a handful of the Eternal Flame, impaled through the torso with Einherjar's sword and stabbed with Gungnir by Thor without her body or her clothing being damaged, and emerged completely unharmed after a fully-empowered Thor hit her with massive lightning bolts. Indeed, only the revived and fully powered Surtur's Twilight Sword was able to crush her, thus sending the Goddess of Death into oblivion. Apart from Surtur, Odin was the only being capable of doing any significant harm to Hela, as he was able to beat and seal her away.

- Superhuman Stamina: Like all Asgardians, Hela's musculature produces considerably less fatigue toxins during physical activity than the musculature of humans or normal Asgardians, allowing her to defeat numerous Asgardians, as well as fight against the combined might of Thor and Valkyrie without tiring.

- Superhuman Speed: Hela can move at exceptionally high speeds, as she was fast enough to keep up with and even outpace Thor and Valkyrie in combat, as well as even being fast enough to catch Mjølnir with one hand.

- Superhuman Agility: Hela naturally possesses greater agility, dexterity, balance, and body coordination than that of a human, and even most other Asgardians, with her managing to dodge and outpace Thor and Valkyrie's attacks for the majority of her battles with them and easily jump through a crater and land fully on her feet.

- Extended Longevity: Due to her connection to Asgard and to Hel, Hela is immortal and will not die, so long as the realm of Asgard exists.

- Supernatural Empowerment: As the firstborn of Odin, Hela has a supernatural connection to the realm Asgard, and can draw power from Asgard itself to perform incredible supernatural abilities. Hela can manifest various physical structures out of thin air, ranging from weapons to ground structures to even her own armor. She can even draw power from Asgard to enhance her natural abilities.

- Weapon Manifestation: Hela can manifest various weapons out of different parts of her body, though she would usually generate Necroswords, daggers, spears, and axes. These weapons are incredibly durable and sharp, enough to not only instantly kill the likes of the Warriors Three and Skurge, but also even pierce right through Thor's nigh-invulnerable body, with Hela thus gouging his right eye out with a Necrosword and pierce his back with a blade from her elbow. She also manifested the Bloodaxe, which she then gave to Skurge. While pursuing Thor and Loki through the Bifrost Bridge, Hela conjured a triangular shield on her forearm to take the impact of Thor's punch, causing it to break apart. later launched oversize blades into a large gate to a secret cave where the fleeing Asgardians were hiding, allowed her to bring it down by telekinetically pulling the blades down along with the gate. She was also able to generate these spike-like constructs from the ground to pierce Surtur with, but that ultimately proved ineffective against the Fire Giant.

- Structure Manifestation: Hela could manifest metallic, blade-like structures from the ground surrounding her, as seen when she attempted to prevent Loki's spaceship containing the Asgardiansfrom launching from the doomed realm, and later when she attempted to gain elevation during her short battle with Surtur.

- Armor Manifestation: After being freed by Odin's death, Hela was able to repair the damage to her clothing and make her headdress appear and disappear from her head.

- Necromancy: Hela, as the "Goddess of Death", demonstrated being able to resurrect her allies, using a handful of flame from the Eternal Flame and tossing it against the ground to create a huge blast of green infernal energy. As such, she was able to revive her pet wolf Fenris and her Berserkers after discovering their corpses under Odin's Vault. She has ruled in the realm of Hel, where the souls of those who died without being honored are driven to.


*****Below is the list of power tiers to choose from. Please select a power tier for each character doing battle (the characters below in Red are not in any particular order). Be aware both characters can share the same power tier*****

The character's current statuses below are as follows

*****NOTE: Characters that are OFFICIAL will always be Placed above characters that are UNOFFICIAL.*****

Cosmic Tier (cosmic/interdimension level power/presence on a planetary scale, at the minimum)
Thanos (w/ Filled Infinity Gauntlet)

Dormmamu
Eson The Searcher with Infinity Stone
Surtur Prime
Ego The Living Planet
Odin
Doctor Strange (w/ Time Gem)

Transcendent Tier (City to planetary level power & Cosmic/interdimensional level influence on a local scale?)
Thor

Ronan with the Power Stone
Kurse
Surtur's Fire Dragon
Fenris
Thor
Ultron Prime (Vibranium)


Powerhouse Tier (Beyond top tier, power/interdimensional power on a block to city Level)
Vision

Malekith (W/ reality gem)
Hulk
Doctor Strange
Ghost Rider
Ebony Maw
Scarlet Witch
Hulkbuster Iron Man
The Destroyer
Abomination
Cull Obsidian
Pre-Eternal Flame Surtur
Abilisk
Jotunheim Beast
Kronan
Ancient One
Giant Man
Kaecilius

Top Tier (Street to block level?)
Ronan

Valkyrie
Iron Man
Hogun
Aldrich Killian
Loki
Drax
Heimdall
War Machine
Iron Monger
Whiplash
Quake
Malekith
Sif
Fandral
Volstagg
Korath The Pursuer
Groot
Killgrave
Yondu
Lash
Hive
Frigga
Pepper Potts with Extremis
Mantis
Skurge
Korg
Baron Mordo
Master Wong
Corvus Glaive

Superhuman Tier (Street Level)
Black Panther

Captain America
Spider-Man
Gamora
Star-Lord
Vulture
Falcon
Winter Soldier
Red Skull
Spiderman
Crossbones
Quicksilver
Iron Fist
Luke Cage
Jessica Jones
Eric Savin (Extremis Soldier)
Ellen Brandt (Extremis Soldier)
Emil Blonsky (Super Soldier)
Madame Gao
Mr. Hyde
Slingshot
Aida
Raina
Deathlok
The Patriot
Carl Creed the Absorbing Man
Lorelei
Nebula
Miek
Ant Man
Yellow Jacket
Proxima Midnight
Erik Killmonger
Ulysses Klaue

Street Tier (non super human, agent level)
Daredevil

Elektra
Black Widow
Okoye
Rocket Racoon
Hawkeye
Punisher
Coleen Wing
Batroc the Leaper
Shocker
Kingpin
Nobu
Diamondback
Bakuto
Peggy Carter
Sharon Carter Agent 13
Dum Dum Dugan
Mocking Bird
Maria Hill
Misty Knight
The Punisher
Nick Fury
Phil Coulson
Zemo
Jig Saw
M'Baku
Shuri
 
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Thanos it's been stated numerous times by numerous people that Thanos is the most powerful being in the universe. I think he takes down Hela. I actually think he takes down Thor with Stormbreaker. Part of me thinks he wanted Thor to hit him with it because he wanted to be beaten like he wanted to in the comics.
 
Hela, and I don't think it's close.

She toyed with Thor for most of Ragnarok, and even at his most powerful he could only really slow her down. She showed herself to be both faster and stronger than Thor and as I've said before her main super power is killing things.

If Thanos can be made to bleed by Iron Man's technology I have no doubt that Hela's death blades would make short work of him. He needs some infinity stones just to have a chance.
 
Thanos it's been stated numerous times by numerous people that Thanos is the most powerful being in the universe. I think he takes down Hela. I actually think he takes down Thor with Stormbreaker. Part of me thinks he wanted Thor to hit him with it because he wanted to be beaten like he wanted to in the comics.

Then they turned around and had Iron Man make him bleed from a melee attack lol.
 
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My bet's on Hela. She's faster, more ruthless, more durable and more skilled and unlike Thanos she has weapons and ranged attacks. Thanos might have an advantage in raw strength but even there, she's in the same league. If her weapons can overwhelm Thor's ridiculous durability and impale Surtur Prime then she should be able to cut Thanos to pieces if she goes all out.

Thanos it's been stated numerous times by numerous people that Thanos is the most powerful being in the universe. I think he takes down Hela.

The only character I remember calling Thanos the most powerful in the universe is Ronan's henchmen from Guardians of the Galaxy.

1)He's likely never seen Odin/Thor fight so he can't compare them to Thanos
2) He doesn't know that Hela/Ego/Dormammu etc exist so he definitely can't compare them to Thanos.
3) He could easily have been referring to Thanos' powerful armies rather than Thanos' personal combat abilities.

I actually think he takes down Thor with Stormbreaker. Part of me thinks he wanted Thor to hit him with it because he wanted to be beaten like he wanted to in the comics.

You're obviously a big Thanos fan but c'mon man, this is just wishful thinking. Stormbreaker cut through the Infinity Gauntlet's blast and Thanos openly admits he'd be dead if Thor had went for the head.
 
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Hela, and I don't think it's close.

She toyed with Thor for most of Ragnarok, and even at his most powerful he could only really slow her down. She showed herself to be both faster and stronger than Thor and as I've said before her main super power is killing things.

If Thanos can be made to bleed by Iron Man's technology I have no doubt that Hela's death blades would make short work of him. He needs some infinity stones just to have a chance.

And thanos didn't beat thor and hulk? Admittedly we only see hulks smack down.
 
Thanos it's been stated numerous times by numerous people that Thanos is the most powerful being in the universe. I think he takes down Hela. I actually think he takes down Thor with Stormbreaker. Part of me thinks he wanted Thor to hit him with it because he wanted to be beaten like he wanted to in the comics.

Dude, those people clearly hadn't heard of Hela ( neither had Thor ) or Stormbreaker ( because it's brand new in IW). Given that Thanos sacrificed probably the only person he loved to achieve his goal I think its tough to argue that he wanted to fail.

Can't agree with you dude.

And thanos didn't beat thor and hulk? Admittedly we only see hulks smack down.


IMO Hela would have straight up killed Hulk, she kicked Thor's ash and toyed with him - and Thor was beating Hulk until GM interfered with the control disc.
 
Without the stones, Thanos doesn't stand a chance. Her regenerative abilities are unmatched in the MCU. Not to mention she's far more ruthless.
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Totes. Thanos wants to save the universe in a twisted way, Hela slaughters all who stand in her way without hesitation.
 
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Hela's regeneration is extremely OP.
 
BT I just made a new battle, battling Iron man into the powerhouse tier, I will wait to post it though, unless people want to keep up with two battles
 
BT I just made a new battle, battling Iron man into the powerhouse tier, I will wait to post it though, unless people want to keep up with two battles

Sorry I thought you were busy.
 
As for this. My man Thanos takes it. Hela engages in hand to hand combat. Thanos overpowers her there. Feats wise, its a toss up, but Thanos has a much bigger threat aura. If these two met to duke it out in a movie, I see very little chance the writers decide Hela. She had crazy regen, but her powers weren't exactly exotic or OP, she just had a big OP aura, extreme durability against ONE (at the time) Powerhouse tiered character (based on our list).


Durability goes to Thanos. They both have a durability feat against Thor's lightning, which is hard to ignore. Hela was sidelined for about a minute or two before likely regenning off screen. If she no sold Thor's lightning, why didn't she come right back up to the bifrost moments later? What was she doing for those two minutes? She was sidelined, albeit, very very briefly, and not enough to make a difference. Thanos got right back up, and attacked Thor.

In terms of skill, and strength, he dropped Hulk in 12 punches, and seemingly wrecked Thor before the movie even started. The Russos have said Thanos is undefeated hand to hand combat. If someone says Thanos ISN'T superior to Hela, they are damn near equal. His dismantling against someone as strong of Hulk was scary. It was a calculated assault, striking Hulk on varying pressure points, doing so from countering and parrying Hulk's punches. He wasn't dancing and flipping and quickly out striking the Hulk. He completely MMA'd him. Throat chop, rib bunch, nose break, etc. In terms of realism, it was the most realistic display of fighting skill we've seen, outside of Cap vs WS. Hela does not have any edge in skill, she does in speed, but I'm sure Thanos has beaten faster opponents than him.

Hela has defeated Thor, the ONLY powerhouse tier character she faced in that movie. Everyone else she engaged in was atleast two tiers below her.

Thanos KO'd the physically strongest powerhouse of that tier. He beat up Thor off screen, leaving him looking just as bad or worse than Hela had him look. 5 minutes into the movie, he's already beaten one more powerhouse tiered character than Hela has. Thanos also was durable enough and strong enough to destroy Mark L Iron man in hand to hand combat who very well may be up to the powerhouse tier as well. He snapped Loki's neck with one hand, easier than you and I could choke an 8 year old. Don't remember if Loki was top tier or low powerhouse.

Thanos also took a trans tiered Thor's lightning better than Hela took the powerhouse tiered Thor's lightning.

Thanos is also the greatest threat of the MCU. He wins this one.
 
This is a though one. Durability wise they are both on a scale of their own. Hela could only be defeated by an insanely powerful Surtur plunging his gigantic sword through her and the whole of Asgard.

A fully assembled Infinity Gauntlet Thanos was almost defeated by Stormbreaker. Without the stones he wouldn’t have stand a chance. So there’s that...

Then again Thanos wiped the floor with Hulk and since he and Thor are evenly matched then I would say Thor had basically the same treatment earlier on. While Thor against Hela was able to deliver some good blows and even stun her for a moment.

It’s a bit of a toss up I feel. It can be swayed both ways on this battle. I guess I give a slight advantage to Thanos.
 
It's crazy that this battle is just as close as Thanos with the Power Stone Vs Hela.

So do people think Thanos is just as powerful without the Power Stone as he is with it? Or what?
 
It's crazy that this battle is just as close as Thanos with the Power Stone Vs Hela.

So do people think Thanos is just as powerful without the Power Stone as he is with it? Or what?
Thanos is powerful! I think people are really underestimating him here. I wish we would have saw him do more in previous movies than just A:IW
 
It's crazy that this battle is just as close as Thanos with the Power Stone Vs Hela.

So do people think Thanos is just as powerful without the Power Stone as he is with it? Or what?
Thanos with the Power Stone should naturally be more powerful than Hela.

Thanos was able to completely and easily own and overpower Hulk... who is undoubtably one of the strongest and hardest hitters in the MCU. Now add to all of that raw strength, skill, durability... a Power Stone. I mean come on. Maybe I’m missing something but to me that seems a no brainer.

So if we try to apply some logic and create parallels regarding what we have seen form several fights...

Hela fought and basically defeated Thor, even though he was able to land solid shots on her and even stun her with everything he got. Hulk is an even match for Thor so it would stand to reason that he wouldn’t have faired much better against Hela. Sure both fight differently with different atributes and all of that but for the sake of the comparison let’s try and make this simple.

So basically Thor and in theory Hulk could both hit Hela, land some good shots but eventually be defeated. Now let’s bring Thanos to the mix.

Thanos wipes the floor with both Thor and Hulk.we don’t really see what happened to Thor but Thanos completely and effortlessly destroyed Hulk. Again Thor and Hulk are evenly matched so Thor would and probably did suffer the exact same fate.

Thor is able to put some fight against Hela but is eventually defeated. Hulk surprises Thanos but is owned by him. I’dd say Thanos and Hela are around the same level just looking at how they dealt with their threats.

Even if Hela is slightly more powerful then adding the Power Stone to Thanos arsenal should really settle things for the mad titans favour.
 
Thanos basically has the skill/combat expertise of Thor, the strength of the Hulk and the durability of Hela. Give or take on every single aspect.

- In close quarters combat Thor was doing circles around Hulk in the arena, Thanos did the same basically but he actually made it look easy... So Thanos is skill-wise at the very least equal to Thor. Likely superior.

- Strength wise he is clearly stronger than Hulk. In terms of sheer and raw strength Hulk is on the top of the food chain. Well Thanos overpowered him so that clearly makes him physically stronger.

- Looking at his durability, he took a surprise attack beating from Hulk and shrug it off like it was nothing. Thor also took a beating and came back in what it felt like was a last resort sitautiob almost as it was his comeback against Hela. So it stands to reason that Thanos is as durable if not more as the most powerful asgardians.

Another interesting speculative exercise would be to take Hela out of the equation in Ragnarok and replace her with Thanos. Thanos would have the exact same success until Surtur would eventually take him out. I just think Thanos and Hela are not that far off so it’s an understandle close fight. Not when you add the Power Stone though.
 
This is a though one. Durability wise they are both on a scale of their own. Hela could only be defeated by an insanely powerful Surtur plunging his gigantic sword through her and the whole of Asgard.

A fully assembled Infinity Gauntlet Thanos was almost defeated by Stormbreaker. Without the stones he wouldn’t have stand a chance. So there’s that...

Then again Thanos wiped the floor with Hulk and since he and Thor are evenly matched then I would say Thor had basically the same treatment earlier on. While Thor against Hela was able to deliver some good blows and even stun her for a moment.

It’s a bit of a toss up I feel. It can be swayed both ways on this battle. I guess I give a slight advantage to Thanos.

I don't even buy that Surtur's sword blow killed Hela outright. After watching that scene many times, I think that stunned her and knocked her out of the fight (and killed Fenris), but it was the destruction of Asgard itself that destroyed her.

Although I haven't voted in the poll yet, I'm inclined to think that Hela takes Thanos out. Not only is she insanely powerful, but she also took damage in battle that would have probably seriously wounded or killed the Mad Titan and recovered instantly. In her fight against the Asgardian warriors, Hela was run through and it didn't even faze her. She just kept on fighting and killed all comers. Thanos couldn't have done the same, IMO. Hela would slice him apart without suffering any injuries herself.
 
Thanos basically has the skill/combat expertise of Thor, the strength of the Hulk and the durability of Hela. Give or take on every single aspect.

- In close quarters combat Thor was doing circles around Hulk in the arena, Thanos did the same basically but he actually made it look easy... So Thanos is skill-wise at the very least equal to Thor. Likely superior.

- Strength wise he is clearly stronger than Hulk. In terms of sheer and raw strength Hulk is on the top of the food chain. Well Thanos overpowered him so that clearly makes him physically stronger.

- Looking at his durability, he took a surprise attack beating from Hulk and shrug it off like it was nothing. Thor also took a beating and came back in what it felt like was a last resort sitautiob almost as it was his comeback against Hela. So it stands to reason that Thanos is as durable if not more as the most powerful asgardians.

Another interesting speculative exercise would be to take Hela out of the equation in Ragnarok and replace her with Thanos. Thanos would have the exact same success until Surtur would eventually take him out. I just think Thanos and Hela are not that far off so it’s an understandle close fight. Not when you add the Power Stone though.


Disagree on durability if Iron Man's tech can make Thanos bleed. Are people here suggesting that Thanos catch crush Mjolnir effortlessly ? With the power of the gauntlet sure, but with no stones ? Seriously ?

Nothing Thor did to Hela did more than slow her down, if she'd have fought the Hulk she'd have killed him dead. She took hits from Odin's spear and didn't flinch.

I just can't see Thanos without any infinity stones beating her in any scenario. Give him a stone or two and he's got a shot.
 
I don't even buy that Surtur's sword blow killed Hela outright. After watching that scene many times, I think that stunned her and knocked her out of the fight (and killed Fenris), but it was the destruction of Asgard itself that destroyed her.

Although I haven't voted in the poll yet, I'm inclined to think that Hela takes Thanos out. Not only is she insanely powerful, but she also took damage in battle that would have probably seriously wounded or killed the Mad Titan and recovered instantly. In her fight against the Asgardian warriors, Hela was run through and it didn't even faze her. She just kept on fighting and killed all comers. Thanos couldn't have done the same, IMO. Hela would slice him apart without suffering any injuries herself.
Dude ! Please vote and square things up for Goddess of Death !:D
 
Thanos basically has the skill/combat expertise of Thor, the strength of the Hulk and the durability of Hela. Give or take on every single aspect.

- In close quarters combat Thor was doing circles around Hulk in the arena, Thanos did the same basically but he actually made it look easy... So Thanos is skill-wise at the very least equal to Thor. Likely superior.

- Strength wise he is clearly stronger than Hulk. In terms of sheer and raw strength Hulk is on the top of the food chain. Well Thanos overpowered him so that clearly makes him physically stronger.

- Looking at his durability, he took a surprise attack beating from Hulk and shrug it off like it was nothing. Thor also took a beating and came back in what it felt like was a last resort sitautiob almost as it was his comeback against Hela. So it stands to reason that Thanos is as durable if not more as the most powerful asgardians.

Another interesting speculative exercise would be to take Hela out of the equation in Ragnarok and replace her with Thanos. Thanos would have the exact same success until Surtur would eventually take him out. I just think Thanos and Hela are not that far off so it’s an understandle close fight. Not when you add the Power Stone though.

Thanos doesn't have the Power Stone in this battle, he's stoneless.
 

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