Marvel Films MCU Phase IV!

[Kev4000]

If Black Widow will not release in November, just bring it on Disney+ on demand. They cant hold it forever.

 

[C. Lee]

I have no great excitement for any of the future announced Marvel movies. There a couple I am interested in seeing....but the thrill is gone for me. While I liked INFINITY WAR and ENDGAME.....I saw no reason to kill off characters because some actor's contracts were up. I have watched multiple actors play James Bond, Tarzan, Superman, Batman, etc......I could have watched a new actor play Iron Man or Captain America. ENDGAME was an ending. My set of MCU films from IRON MAN to ENDGAME make a grand set and series that I will continue to re-watch when ever I can. Yes, I know that SPIDER-MAN FAR FROM HOME came after ENDGAME....but it seems (to me) to be the start of the new stuff and doesn't fit in with the other movies. I will watch future MCU films as they are released....but I will not be waiting on the edge of my seat for them like I did all the others.

 

[EnDz0n3]

I would be in the same boat if the only things we're getting were sequels to Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, Thor, Spider-man "Home" films, prequels to Black Widow, new sets of films from Shang-Chi, Eternals and TV shows for Hawkeye, Loki, and Falcon & The Winter Soldier, She-Hulk, Moonknight and Ms. Marvel.

However, what's really got my attention is the X-men. It won't be for a few years yet, so that's got my excitement way, way tempered down. When that time comes and all the casting news is released and the set pictures? Yea you'll see me in cloud 9.

But for now I'm just sitting back and hoping the slate of films that comes out in the next few years doesn't ruin the MCU

 

[WatchProtect]

Shang Chi is my most anticipated but its super close with Eternals, FATWS, and Moon Knight

 

[psylockolussus]

I'm eXcited for the Eternals and really curious about Shang-Chi. But none of these announced films eXcite me more than Avengers 5 and the reboot of the Mutants and the Fantastic Four.

 

[WatchProtect]

I wonder how long they'll wait to pull the trigger on A5

 

[Protar]

I wonder how long they'll wait to pull the trigger on A5

Surely they can't wait that long. I know they want their to be a longer break this time, but if they wait too long characters like Doctor Strange and Black Panther will have been in the MCU for almost a decade without being part of a standing Avenger's team. This is the biggest potential problem with future of the MCU. The original six had a strong rapport across 5 crossover events (including civil war). The new characters deserve the same treatment but currently we're a few years into their tenures and Black Panther, Strange, Captain Marvel, Spiderman and Ant-man have barely interacted with one another. 2023 for Avengers 5 sounds good.

 

[NHawk19]

End Game was a perfect jumping off point for people. BW would've been a nice hold-over until the balance of the build-up follows. However, box office momentum has been essentially lost.

Now that they've had essentially had about 6 months with no production, and the "free time" to analyze the fox properties, I wonder how the game plan will change. Will it shift to the established characters more? Or will they need something big to hook people back in? If that's the case F4 and/or X-men could see a bump in priority.

Also does anyone know what was actually shooting when the world stopped turning? BW was done obviously, Eternals should also be essentially done. It was originally in the Nov slot, right? Did Dr. Strange, Thor, or Shang Chi start production?

 

[Dark Raven]

Shang Chi has already started production in Australia and is due to restart in late July.

 

[Albright]

Australia to close Victoria-New South Wales border

Could result in studios not being able to resume filmings there...

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I have no great excitement for any of the future announced Marvel movies. There a couple I am interested in seeing....but the thrill is gone for me. While I liked INFINITY WAR and ENDGAME.....I saw no reason to kill off characters because some actor's contracts were up. I have watched multiple actors play James Bond, Tarzan, Superman, Batman, etc......I could have watched a new actor play Iron Man or Captain America. ENDGAME was an ending. My set of MCU films from IRON MAN to ENDGAME make a grand set and series that I will continue to re-watch when ever I can. Yes, I know that SPIDER-MAN FAR FROM HOME came after ENDGAME....but it seems (to me) to be the start of the new stuff and doesn't fit in with the other movies. I will watch future MCU films as they are released....but I will not be waiting on the edge of my seat for them like I did all the others.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to FF and X-Men, but in terms of what we know they're working on, my enthusiasm has never been lower.

I never read Master of Kung Fu or Black Widow or Captain Marvel etc. etc. etc. comic books. I never watched cartoons with them.

I mostly read FF and Hulk, but characters like Thor, Iron Man, Captain America spilled over and I knew them from cartoons etc. so I had an interest in those films.

I'll probably watch Black Widow etc. when they come to video, but I'll only go to the theater if I have some time to kill. There's no real excitement or anticipation from me for anything coming in the near-term.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

I always feel like I'm a weirdo for liking to be exposed to new things I'm not as familiar with and seeing the list of popularized character grow, instead of only falling back on what I'm nostalgic for. Like, I've never read Eternals, but their movie will likely push them into mainstream, make them a bigger part of the comics (which is good imo, because there's too many Spider-people, Hulks, etc. getting spotlight. We need originality) and will be like the nostalgic X-Men and Spider-Men cartoons for the people who are young now. I tend to gravitate towards more obscure characters.

(This is not an attack on other people's preferences btw, it just always seems so odd to me that I sometimes seem like one of the few people who can get exited for something obscure rather than only the big names from when I was young)

 

[Protar]

I agree I'm excited to see where the MCU is going to go with these more obscure characters. But then I've never read the comics so I'd be just as hyped for Marvel to announce a film about completely original characters.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I always feel like I'm a weirdo for liking to be exposed to new things I'm not as familiar with and seeing the list of popularized character grow, instead of only falling back on what I'm nostalgic for. Like, I've never read Eternals, but their movie will likely push them into mainstream, make them a bigger part of the comics (which is good imo, because there's too many Spider-people, Hulks, etc. getting spotlight. We need originality) and will be like the nostalgic X-Men and Spider-Men cartoons for the people who are young now. I tend to gravitate towards more obscure characters.

(This is not an attack on other people's preferences btw, it just always seems so odd to me that I sometimes seem like one of the few people who can get exited for something obscure rather than only the big names from when I was young)

There's nothing unusual about liking new things, but can you really get "excited" about them?

When you see a headline related to Shang-Chi, do you feel a lurch in your stomach as adrenaline shoots into you body and makes it difficult to work your mouse to click fast enough?

When set photos show up, will you zoom in to take in all the details, evaluate the designs, and look for hints and clues of things to come?

A week before opening, a day before opening, an hour before opening, 10 minutes before opening, will you be anxiously anticipating the moment the lights go down in the theater?

That's the way I am with Fantastic Four and Hulk. That's the way I was with Empire Strikes back.

That's the way a LOT of people were with Endgame.

Sure it will be interesting to see some new characters, but I'm not "excited" about them. If you are, great, but if you can truly muster anything close to my excitement for FF with something you know nothing about, you probably are unique. Otherwise, it's probably just a matter of semantics.

 

[Protar]

There's nothing unusual about liking new things, but can you really get "excited" about them?

When you see a headline related to Shang-Chi, do you feel a lurch in your stomach as adrenaline shoots into you body and makes it difficult to work your mouse to click fast enough?

When set photos show up, will you zoom in to take in all the details, evaluate the designs, and look for hints and clues of things to come?

A week before opening, a day before opening, an hour before opening, 10 minutes before opening, will you be anxiously anticipating the moment the lights go down in the theater?

That's the way I am with Fantastic Four and Hulk. That's the way I was with Empire Strikes back.

That's the way a LOT of people were with Endgame.

Sure it will be interesting to see some new characters, but I'm not "excited" about them. If you are, great, but if you can truly muster anything close to my excitement for FF with something you know nothing about, you probably are unique. Otherwise, it's probably just a matter of semantics.

I'm not the person you were quoting but yeah I'm excited about these films, far more for Eternals and Shang-Chi than I am for Black Widow or Fantastic 4 (I am most excited for X-men though). It's a little unfair to compare these films to Endgame which was the result of a decade of build up. But you can be damn sure that people will be zooming in on set details looking for hints. What a silly question, people are already doing this.

I'm very excited for all the new properties.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

But you can be damn sure that people will be zooming in on set details looking for hints. What a silly question, people are already doing this.

There are 'people' who can't wait for Nickleback's next album. Just because some people do a certain thing doesn't mean it's common or expected, so I don't think it's a silly question.

 

[Protar]

There are 'people' who can't wait for Nickleback's next album. Just because some people do a certain thing doesn't mean it's common or expected, so I don't think it's a silly question.

So you ask people a question and then if you get the answer you don't want you dismiss them as an outlier? It's absolutely a silly question. Each rumour or set report spawns dozens of over-analytical youtube videos. You don't have to be excited but a lot of people are. Just because the excitement doesn't match what was perhaps the most hyped movie in history doesn't mean there's no excitement.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

So you ask people a question and then if you get the answer you don't want you dismiss them as an outlier? It's absolutely a silly question. Each rumour or set report spawns dozens of over-analytical youtube videos. You don't have to be excited but a lot of people are. Just because the excitement doesn't match what was perhaps the most hyped movie in history doesn't mean there's no excitement.

You're really overstating everything I said. I don't "want" a specific answer. I never said there was no excitement. I never dismissed anyone as an outlier. You dismissed my question as "silly" and I tried to explain why it wasn't.

 

[Protar]

You're really overstating everything I said. I don't "want" a specific answer. I never said there was no excitement. I never dismissed anyone as an outlier. You dismissed my question as "silly" and I tried to explain why it wasn't.

I'm just saying, you said you weren't excited, someone else said they were you respond with "but are you really excited?" I respond with "yes people are excited" and your response is that people like all sorts of stupid things. What a bizarre line of argument.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

What a bizarre line of argument.

Yep.

 

[Bayne]

I'm more excited about these new movies than anything that could be happening in the future for the plain and simple reason that these new movies are actually happening now. I've been an X-Men fan since elementary school and I'm happy the X-Men are eventually going to join the MCU, but no way am I getting even the slightest bit excited about a series of movies that hasn't even been announced yet, has no cast, no writers, no story hints of any kind, etc.

I'm curious about Black Widow, but not really heavily attached there despite previous knowledge of the character. I'm more excited about Shang-Chi because of how different it seems like it could be, more excited than that for Eternals just because it seems so off-the-wall, which is a promising start if Guardians is anything to judge by, more excited than that for Thor 4 because Portman Thor is a great hook, imo, and completely over the moon for Dr. Strange 2 because I love the idea of dealing with a multiverse, love the promise of a more horror-esque tone and Scarlet Witch is one of my favorite characters in the mcu.

 

[SirStrangefolk]

Yeah, I personally also feel much more excited for the new things. As a comparison, when came out and was advertised I skipped out on the Incredible Hulk. Why? I read his comics as a kid, I played games with him in it, I'd seen Ang Lee's version, etc. I knew pretty much exactly what I was going to get from it so I'd just wait to catch it on TV sometime or rent it or something.
On the other hand, when they announced GotG and the first concept art came out I was immediately intrigued. This strange cosmic property with a weird tree man, a raccoon with a big gun, etc.? But still connected to the larger MCU? Now that is interesting. I watched the trailers over and over, talked to people how excited I was for the movie and waited all summer with anticipation to get the chance to see it.
The movies I'm looking forward to the most in phase IV are probably Eternals, Thor and Doctor Strange. For Disney+ it's Wandavision and Moon Knight. Of course Thor, Strange, Wanda and Vision are not new or unknown, but their properties are the ones where I feel it's most likely that some strange new part of the universe/multiverse or some obscure character are introduced.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Yeah, I personally also feel much more excited for the new things. As a comparison, when came out and was advertised I skipped out on the Incredible Hulk. Why? I read his comics as a kid, I played games with him in it, I'd seen Ang Lee's version, etc. I knew pretty much exactly what I was going to get from it so I'd just wait to catch it on TV sometime or rent it or something.
On the other hand, when they announced GotG and the first concept art came out I was immediately intrigued. This strange cosmic property with a weird tree man, a raccoon with a big gun, etc.? But still connected to the larger MCU? Now that is interesting. I watched the trailers over and over, talked to people how excited I was for the movie and waited all summer with anticipation to get the chance to see it.
The movies I'm looking forward to the most in phase IV are probably Eternals, Thor and Doctor Strange. For Disney+ it's Wandavision and Moon Knight. Of course Thor, Strange, Wanda and Vision are not new or unknown, but their properties are the ones where I feel it's most likely that some strange new part of the universe/multiverse or some obscure character are introduced.

 

[Detective Conan]

Personally, I found myself way more excited for the Disney Plus shows like Wandavision, Moon Knight and She-Hulk, and Ms. Marvel than I am of any of the phase 4 movies announced except maybe Multiverse Of Madness and Eternals(which I both think are gonna be standouts).

 

[Protar]

Personally, I found myself way more excited for the Disney Plus shows like Wandavision, Moon Knight and She-Hulk, and Ms. Marvel than I am of any of the phase 4 movies announced except maybe Multiverse Of Madness and Eternals(which I both think are gonna be standouts).

I'm very excited to see if they can actually nail the connections between the shows and the films that they failed to deliver on previously with AoS and the Defenders etc. And the extra space for character development will be great.