MCU vs thread....controversy and chaos

[Batmannerism]

That was a pretty good fight scene but I have to wonder why Vision didn't phase once against Thor. And I absolutely HATE it that Thor ALWAYS holds back. I really want to see him cut lose for once.

Ummmm.....

 

[Docker2.0]

He needs to do that more often.
Vision wins! Next up:
Hawkeye

Vs the Winter Soldier

Who you got peeps?

 

[Batmannerism]

He needs to do that more often.
Vision wins! Next up:
Hawkeye

Vs the Winter Soldier

Who you got peeps?

Winter Soldier 9/10. In hand to hand Bucky would crush him or stab him to death, but more likely he'll bust a cap in his ass or blow him to bits with a grenade.

 

[Docker2.0]

Winter Soldier 9/10. In hand to hand Bucky would crush him or stab him to death, but more likely he'll bust a cap in his ass or blow him to bits with a grenade.

How can you say that? We have seen Clint kill dudes with swords and don't get me started on his arrow skills. Winter Soldiers, he used a knife against Cap and LOST. Come at me bro!!!

 

[Fosterson]

Guns>>>>>>>>Bow and arrow

Bucky stomps.

 

[ernesth100]

I've really tried to give Hawkeye the W. But Bucky just takes the cake.

 

[Batmannerism]

How can you say that? We have seen Clint kill dudes with swords and don't get me started on his arrow skills. Winter Soldiers, he used a knife against Cap and LOST. Come at me bro!!!

Hawkeye is awesome against no name goons,
especially as Ronin. Against a super soldier who has held his own against Captain America , and is carrying at least 3 different knives, multiple guns and grenades.....good luck.

Watch Cap and Bucky's fights, they are pretty evenly matched, with Bucky coming out on top
at least once ( when he threw Cap down an elevator shaft), and losing in a fight to Cap ( the MCUs greatest hand to hand fighter) does not in anyway suggest Hawkeye could even challenge Bucky.

Given that Black Panther was able to dodge Hawkeye's arrows at close range, and Bucky has been able to evade automatic weapons fire ( even briefly), I dont think Hawkeye's arrows pose a lot of threat against Bucky- who could probably take a couple of arrows in him and still blow Clint's head off.

Finally, if its Bucky in Winter Soldier mode, he is likely to go for a kill shot straight away.

 

[VictusMortuus]

Poor Clint gets taken out pretty quickly by Bucky.

 

[Luigi]

Zombified Bucky takes out Clint easily.

 

[Bayne]

Bucky clearly wins.

 

[metaphysician]

Hawkeye vs Bucky:

Bucky takes it, just like Cap would take it. The only way Clint could win is if the fight were taking place on a giant flat featureless plain with them starting out like two miles away from each other. Otherwise, while Hawkeye certainly has firepower that could hurt Bucky, Bucky is not realistically going to let it hit him, or allow Clint free and easy shots via return fire.

 

[Docker2.0]

Bucky wins because of BLATANT favoritism...............next up:

Thor

vs the Juggernaut

Who you got peeps?

 

[Fosterson]

Thor curbstomps.

Seriously, you're putting a guy who was beaten by an electric cable being shoved up his a** against a guy who can do this?

 

[Docker2.0]

Thor curbstomps.

Seriously, you're putting a guy who was beaten by an electric cable being shoved up his a** against a guy who can do this?

Yall do know that is bad writing. No way would that really take him down. Plus Thor got took down by a regular SHIELD guy as well. I know he lost his powers which if you think about it shouldn't have been possibly but again....................bad writing.

 

[Batmannerism]

Yall do know that is bad writing. No way would that really take him down. Plus Thor got took down by a regular SHIELD guy as well. I know he lost his powers which if you think about it shouldn't have been possibly but again....................bad writing.

Actually the main premise of the original Thor comic was that he only had his powers on Earth if he held Mjolnir, if they were separated for more than 60 seconds he turned into a powerless mortal named Dr Donald Blake.

In the comics, Juggernaut would probably get a tingle from a high voltage cable up his bum, but otherwise wouldn't be incapacitated by it ( in the comics he also has a force field ). Let's face it, that was for comic effect only....and it was hilarious.

In the films, based on his feats Juggernaut is a B grade Hulk at best ( in the comics he has curb stomped Colossuss more than once). Even without his hammer, and lightning, only relying on fighting skills and his super strength I see Thor beating Juggernaut pretty handily.

If it was the comic book Juggernaut against pre-Ragnarok MCU Thor that might be a different story. Comic book Juggernaut would be a very tough match for MCU Hulk or MCU Thanos, he's that powerful.

I'm not even sure if Movie Juggernaut could beat Abomination or Ultron Prime with Vibranium casing.

So, in short, MCU Thor beats X-verse Juggernaut 10/10.

 

[InCali]

The Mighty Thor makes The Juggernaut mighty sore.

 

[VictusMortuus]

Thor

 

[metaphysician]

Thor vs Juggernaut:

Thor takes this, easily. Juggernaut in Deadpool is a reasonably impressive brick, but he's just not on the same level as Thor. Even pre-godhood Thor is still bigger and more powerful, to say nothing of more skilled. Remember the fight between Thor and Hulk in Avengers? Imagine that, only Hulk is not as buff, and Thor has no reason to hold back.

Basically, Cain Marko is going to be *really* glad that he's indestructible. It'll be why he wakes up later with a splitting headache and his whole body feeling like a bruise, rather than waking up feeling like that rock monster dude from the beginning of Thor 2 ( ie, not waking up ).

 

[Luigi]

 

[Docker2.0]

Thor wins in a thriller. Next up:
The Winter Soldier

vs the Red Skull

Who you got peeps?

 

[Batmannerism]

Thor wins in a thriller. Next up:
The Winter Soldier

vs the Red Skull

Who you got peeps?

The Winter Soldier wins 10/10.

The Red Skull may have equal strength, speed and durability ( well except maybe for Buckys bionic arm) but he's also a nutcase who wastes time talking his opponents to death.

The Winter Soldier is a ruthless killing machine, who will punch, stab and shoot his best friend if that's his mission. If he's armed as he is in the photo then I can't see Skull winning.

 

[Fosterson]

Yeah, Bucky's got this. Schmidt never displayed much in the way of real skill, just brute strength, whereas Bucky's got both in spades.

Honestly, if you're gonna put a Hugo Weaving character up against the Winter Soldier, a better match would be with this guy:

 

[metaphysician]

Bucky vs Red Skull:

Yeah, Bucky takes it. I mean, I give props to Red Skull, but ultimately, he's a leader and a mastermind, not a personal warrior. Schmidt fighting with his own fists and weapons is almost as missing-the-point as having Alexander Pierce do the same.

. . . that said, even if you *did* give the Red Skull his whole WWII era supertech Nazi Hydra army, it wouldn't really change anything. Bucky's "I am Captain America only in Ninja flavor" is exactly the kind of opponent to make such an army irrelevant, he'll just bypass it and show up in the command room to murder Schmidt.

 

[InCali]

Thor wins in a thriller. Next up:
The Winter Soldier

vs the Red Skull

Who you got peeps?

You seriously kill me sometimes. No one voted for Juggernaut that I could find. A real thriller. LOL.

Oh yeah. Bucky. I say that because I am a proponent of blatant favoritism.

 

[Fosterson]

You seriously kill me sometimes. No one voted for Juggernaut that I could find. A real thriller. LOL.

Oh yeah. Bucky. I say that because I am a proponent of blatant favoritism.

It was a real thriller for Thor to use Cain as part of his warm-up routine.