MCU vs thread....controversy and chaos

[Batgirl0202]

Black Bolt vs Black Panther:

Hmmm this is an interesting one. I didn't watch the show but I have seen MoM. Based on my (admittedly) limited Black Bolt knowledge, I'm going with T'Challa.

From what I've seen of BB, he definitely seems like more of a one trick pony. Could he potentially be a match for BP's enhanced strength, durability, speed, agility, stamina, reflexes and healing? Possibly, but I think BP's pool of abilities would make him more than a match for the Inhuman.

Side note, I agree that BP's vibranium suit would potentially save him from BB's sonic scream. I'm giving this one to the Panther.

 

[Docker2.0]

I mean, even aside from weird esoteric stuff, you still had things like "granting fairly substantial powers to others, individually or en masse". Plus, I'm at least willing to take "giant combat form" on face value. They just mostly don't exist in the same dimension as humanity, which seems to be a mixed blessing. Whether this is the "natural" state for their species of supernatural being, or some kind of choice? Who knows. I lean to "choice", but that's just a guess.

So they are kind of like Dormammu? I really don't understand it but oh well...................time to go to the hub to relax......

 

[Iceman]

I would give that one to Black Panther the majority of times. Unless Black Bolt gets lucky and catches him full on and keeps him locked on he’s in for a beating at close range with Panther’s speed and agility.

 

[Docker2.0]

Black Panther wins. Next up:

Wong

vs Agatha Harkness

Who you got peeps?!

 

[Luigi]

Sorry Wong but she's just way out of your league.

 

[InCali]

Black Panther wins. Next up:

Wong

vs Agatha Harkness

Who you got peeps?!

Wong opens a portal and.........

 

[metaphysician]

So they are kind of like Dormammu? I really don't understand it but oh well...................time to go to the hub to relax......

I mean, pretty much, albeit on a much *much* smaller scale obviously. I suspect its just something a sufficiently potent magical being can do, if they choose; note that despite having died, Odin still showed up as a dream advisor to Thor. My guess is that gods may *start* as tangible beings, but can transcend into some form of other-dimensional state if they choose ( and might be forced into such a state if they die, on worse terms than otherwise ). It might not even be limited to gods, this might be a thing sufficiently powerful magicians can do, too.

 

[metaphysician]

Wong vs Agatha:

Honestly, we still don't know enough about Agatha's power level when she's *not* had the chance to siphon off Wanda's power for weeks first. If its Agatha as she appeared in WandaVision, yeah, she'll win. I have a hunch that her "default" power level would have Wong winning, but I obviously can't prove that.

 

[Batgirl0202]

Wong vs Agatha:

Docker, another tricky one!

I agree that Agatha's power level hasn't been fully defined as of yet. She seems to be more of a power leech than anything else at this point.

With Wong it's complicated. He's a Master of the Mystic Arts, which doesn't seem like power that can be siphoned as easily, unlike Wanda's power which is inherent. Wanda's power has more of a quantitative aspect to it, unlike Wong's power, which is more theoretical and abstract from my understanding.

I'm gonna go with Wong here, whose abilities we have to assume are at least comparable to The Ancient One.

 

[metaphysician]

Eh, I wouldn't go that far. Wong hasn't demonstrated any of the more esoteric powers that the Ancient One did. Which makes sense, she had a 1000 year head start. I would still presume Wong is the most powerful of Kamar Taj other than Strange himself, and he has a broader deeper education in magic than even Strange ( Strange is just the prodigy ringer of this generation ).

 

[Batmannerism]

Black Panther wins. Next up:

Wong

vs Agatha Harkness

Who you got peeps?!

Wong v Agatha ? Agatha 8/10. Just better feats and more experience.

Also, don't know why notifications for the earlier fight didnt come up so.....

Black Panther v Black Bolt.

Black Bolt 99/100 takes this.

Black bolt has an area effect attack that can literally level mountains.

Black Panther has a vibranium suit - which is destabilized by intense vibrations ( such as those generated in the vibranium mine). Black Bolt generates vibrations that can knock down buildings just by coughing. So the suit may not help. Even if it did, if BB even burps thats more power than the suit has ever absorbed many times over.

Unless Black Panther starts within arms reach and standing directly behind Black Bolt he has zero chance.

I think BP's only victory conditions would be managing to land a lethal strike on BB but then being killed by BB"s death rattle.

 

[Docker2.0]

I'm going Wong so we end with a 3-3 tie!!!

Next up:
Loki, the real one from What If

vs Aldrich Killian

Who you got peeps??!

 

[Batmannerism]

I'm going Wong so we end with a 3-3 tie!!!

Next up:
Loki, the real one from What If

vs Aldrich Killian

Who you got peeps??!

Loki creates illusory duplicates, Killian attacks. Loki puts Odin's ****ing spear through his back, game over.

Flawless victory :Loki

But...if it was Loki from the tv series he would get curb stomped until Lady Loki showed up and saved the day.

 

[Shuri]

Loki obviously.

 

[metaphysician]

Loki vs the Mandarin:

Loki takes it. I mean, he's not going to want to just let Killian punch him repeatedly, but he absolutely doesn't need to let Killian do any such thing. Killian is facing a foe he will only see when Loki wants to be seen, and who has fire power more than good enough to harm him.

 

[Batgirl0202]

Loki all the way.

Mandarin-Wannabe may have the Extremis formula on his side, but Loki's Frost Giant abilities and trickery allow him to take it 10/10.

 

[Luigi]

Loki

I mean, the only way that Killian has a chance is if he somehow learns to fly and traps Loki in a supernova a la Johnny Storm.

 

[Docker2.0]

Loki wins. Next up:

2 killer assassins from Earth, Hawkeye and Black Widow

vs the deadliest assassin in the galaxy, Gamora

Who you got peeps?!

 

[Batmannerism]

Well...Gamora is vulnerable to Tasers so Nat and Clint both have weapons that can subdue her.

In a straight up hand to hand fight Gamora wins easily, but if they all have their usual weapons Nat and Clint should beat her pretty handily at least 7/10.

Gamora is tough but she has the tactical sense of...well none really. Against Goons who charge or Nebula who fights head to head, she's awesome.

But against anyone with a tiny bit of brains or cunning....she's rubbish.

 

[Luigi]

Nat and Clint

This 2 on 1 situation just isn't in Gamora's favor, especially with their training and weaponry.

 

[Batgirl0202]

I'm going with Nat & Clint too.

The two of them as a pair are more than deadly enough to take on the deadliest assassin in the galaxy

 

[Shuri]

Gamora. She has her own weapon too and she's stronger, faster and tougher than Nat and Clint. If the deadliest woman in the galaxy can be easily taken out by two normal humans, then I wander how she got that nickname.

 

[Docker2.0]

Gamora. She has her own weapon too and she's stronger, faster and tougher than Nat and Clint. If the deadliest woman in the galaxy can be easily taken out by two normal humans, then I wander how she got that nickname.

Thank you!! Someone gets it!! I don't get how many people can sit here and think that Gamora who is WAY stronger and faster than Clint and Natasha can't take them out. But sadly..........Clint and Natasha win. 3-2. Next up:

Thor with storm breaker

vs Thanos with the infinity sword

Who you got peeps?!

 

[Batmannerism]

Gamora. She has her own weapon too and she's stronger, faster and tougher than Nat and Clint. If the deadliest woman in the galaxy can be easily taken out by two normal humans, then I wander how she got that nickname.

Don't believe the hype sister. Gamora gets taken our by Starlord, who is less skilful than Clint or Nat ( although more tactically gifted).

Clint and Nat fought an army of Cyborg Chitauri with advanced weapons and killed dozens of them. They are anything but normal humans.

Gamora does nothing in any of her movie appearances to earn her reputation.

 

[Shuri]

Thank you!! Someone gets it!! I don't get how many people can sit here and think that Gamora who is WAY stronger and faster than Clint and Natasha can't take them out. But sadly..........Clint and Natasha win. 3-2. Next up:

Thor with storm breaker

vs Thanos with the infinity sword

Who you got peeps?!

Thanos. He beat Ironman, Cap with the hammer and Thor with Stormbreaker.