MCU vs thread....controversy and chaos

[InCali]

And I leave and you guys are talking about Queen and Freddie Mercury?! Wow.
Anyway Crossbones wins 4-1. Next up:
Venom

Vs Black Panther

Who you got peeps?

You started it.

 

[Luigi]

 

[Docker2.0]

Black Panther wins 3-2. Next up:

Black Widow

vs
Nebula

who you got peeps?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I expect Nebula gets angry and loses in a fight, or that Black Widow finds some way to hack her.

 

[Bayne]

I'm going with Nebula. In a lot of ways this is kind of a repeat of the Cap/Nebula fight, except Widow doesn't have Cap's strength or his shield or his physical durability and her skill advantage over Nebula (while significant) is not as large.

Yeah, Nebula still lets anger get the best of her but with her extreme durability I think she can survive that mistake against a normal human opponent like Widow, so she can just keep coming back again and again until Widow goes down. The Widow's sting batons might have been enough to change my mind, since electrocution seems a much more reliable way to take Nebula down than brute force, but those aren't in the picture so they're not in the fight.

Trying to 'hack' Nebula is an interesting thought that I wouldn't have come up with myself, but I'm not seeing off the top of my head how Natasha would actually be at all qualified to do it.

 

[Stormborn]

This seems like a mismatch. Sure, they're both master assassins trained to fight since childhood but one is superhuman and one isn't.

Widow is extremely skilled but she's only human. We've seen her struggle against opponents with superhuman strength and durability like Proxima Midnight and even Chitauri.

Nebula's an expert combatant who can give Gamora a close fight and land hits in a brief one on one fight against Thanos. Widow might be more skilled but the gap isn't big enough to outweigh Nebula's huge strength and durability advantage.

Nebula wins.

Trying to 'hack' Nebula is an interesting thought that I wouldn't have come up with myself, but I'm not seeing off the top of my head how Natasha would actually be at all qualified to do it.

Widow has a few hacking feats (using laptops) from Iron Man 2 and Winter Soldier but yeah, nothing to suggest she could hack an alien cyborg whilst fighting her at the same time.

 

[Batmannerism]

Depends what gear Widow has. While Nebula has survived a bazooka rocket she has also been killed by a single gunshot from a ray gun.

I think that Nebula's terrible tactical ability and tendency to lose her cool are a huge disadvantage.
If it's a straight up fight with no weapons Nebula eventually prevails due to superior strength and toughness.

But, give Widow a couple of her stings - which could temporarily disable Buckys cyborg arm - and a gun to put a few bullets into Nebula's head and we have a real contest here.

I'm going with Widow on this one.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Depends what gear Widow has. While Nebula has survived a bazooka rocket she has also been killed by a single gunshot from a ray gun.

I think that Nebula's terrible tactical ability and tendency to lose her cool are a huge disadvantage.
If it's a straight up fight with no weapons Nebula eventually prevails due to superior strength and toughness.

But, give Widow a couple of her stings - which could temporarily disable Buckys cyborg arm - and a gun to put a few bullets into Nebula's head and we have a real contest here.

I'm going with Widow on this one.

 

[InCali]

A lot of these really depend on what people have. If I could shoot and had a sniper rifle, I could take out a lot of these people.

I'll call it a draw.

 

[Stormborn]

Depends what gear Widow has. While Nebula has survived a bazooka rocket she has also been killed by a single gunshot from a ray gun.

I was imagining a close quarters fight rather than a shoot out since 99% of MCU fights aren't settled with guns.

Thinking about it, I'd probably still bet on Nebula in a shoot out though.

Judging by the explosions/hits we've seen Nebula survive, I'm not sure the 9mm pistols Widow uses (except in Infinity War where she just doesn't use guns for some reason) would be that effective. Even with that OP looking ray gun it took a shot to the heart to kill Nebula.

I think that Nebula's terrible tactical ability and tendency to lose her cool are a huge disadvantage.

She might have breathtaking anger management issues (mostly towards Gamora/Thanos) but she's capable. She's a rival to Gamora in skill, she escaped the jail in Thanos flagship and made it to Titan, Thanos admits her assassination attempt almost killed him and she can even land hits on him in a head to head fight.

 

[jolldan]

Nebula all day.

Can't find a gif for it but think how she takes the shot from Drax using a cannon and is back in no time. Anything even half the equivalent of that lands on Natasha its all over.

Hell she fought Thanos and lived, that alone should put her well above Romanov's best feats.

 

[Stormborn]

Nebula all day.

Can't find a gif for it but think how she takes the shot from Drax using a cannon and is back in no time. Anything even half the equivalent of that lands on Natasha its all over.

Yeah, her durability's way above human level:

 

[jolldan]

Yeah I just thing when one of them has feats like that they are on a different level in terms endurance.

Strength as well when you think she can closely contend with Gamora who has feats like this.

 

[Docker2.0]

I'm going to go Black Widow...........what?! A 3-3 tie?!?

Next up: Stormbreaker Thor

vs Ronan with the power stone

Who you got peeps?

 

[InCali]

I'm going to go Black Widow...........what?! A 3-3 tie?!?

Next up: Stormbreaker Thor

vs Ronan with the power stone

Who you got peeps?

Dude, you are, like, way WAY too much. LOL.

Stormbreaker Thor because I like him.

 

[InCali]

He was the only one who came close to taking out Thanos and would have if he'd aimed a little higher (but then Marvel wouldn't have had a movie that made 2.8B so there you go). Ronan got his $#!t handed to him by Peter frelling Quill.

 

[Stormborn]

Seems like a mismatch again.

Ronan doesn't really have many feats using the power stone. Nothing to put him above Malekith with the reality stone or Loki with the mind stone sceptre (who both lost to a weaker version of Thor).

Meanwhile this version of Thor has already survived Thanos torturing and trying to kill him with the power stone, as well as the "full force of a star". He also cut through a blast from the complete Infinity gauntlet and buried Stormbreaker in Thanos' chest.

Thor wins.

 

[Docker2.0]

What?! With the power stone ALONE, planets were destroyed. Even in GoTG they stated that if Ronan steps on the planet it is gone. Thor took out a bunch of bad guys but NOTHING like taking out a planet.

 

[Luigi]

Thor

The power stone is undeniably powerful but Ronan wasn't skilled enough to use it to it's full potential.

I'm going to go Black Widow...........what?! A 3-3 tie?!?

I'm going with Black Widow.

 

[InCali]

What?! With the power stone ALONE, planets were destroyed. Even in GoTG they stated that if Ronan steps on the planet it is gone. Thor took out a bunch of bad guys but NOTHING like taking out a planet.

And he got his @$$ handed to him by Star Lord....who? Star Lord man....Legendary outlaw...guys?? Y'know, the guy who was talking in a deep voice....Mantis even said so.

Doc's shooting for another draw.

 

[InCali]

Thor

The power stone is undeniably powerful but Ronan wasn't skilled enough to use it to it's full potential.

I'm going with Black Widow.

LOL....can I vote for her twice? Doesn't seem like an outlier to me.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

For that I choose Ronan.

 

[Batmannerism]

Thor ! Ronan with the power stone is formidable but lacks the mobility advantage that Thor has ( super jumping and flight).

Given that Stormbreaker nearly killed Thanos, who had all 6 stones, I dont see Ronan being able to resist it while having only one.

Also, Ronan was defeated by a dance off and the power of friendship- so Thor has probably got him there, provided he brings Korg and Miek.

 

[jolldan]

Simple math

If Stormbreaker can push back six stones then it can push back one.

Not only that but Ronan's hammer was not designed to house an infinity stone to my knowledge (that was sort of the reason I put down to the Hadron Enforcer being able to destroy it). So lets just say Ronan's hammer and Stormbreaker clash I would fancy it to do the same kind of damage.

 

[Stormborn]

What?! With the power stone ALONE, planets were destroyed.

By a Celestial with the power stone, not by Ronan. His best feat was blowing up Nova Corps space ships.

Even in GoTG they stated that if Ronan steps on the planet it is gone. Thor took out a bunch of bad guys but NOTHING like taking out a planet.

And in Dark World, Malekith was planning to use the reality stone to turn the entire universe into dark matter. Thor still took his best hits and eventually defeated him.

And then in Infinity War we saw Stormbreaker cut through a beam from the complete gauntlet (including the power stone).