MCU X-Men - Part 1

[Marvel united]

For me, the most interesting part of the X-Men is always the students. And we've already seen them "come of age" and star in two separate franchises. I' much more prefer getting fresh faces and focusing on the heart of the mutant world. And given how popular nostalgic kid adventures are these days (Stranger Things, It, etc...) I fully expect Marvel to capitalize on that with the X-Men.

That's literally the same exact thing. Using a more a brand-new team would still be a "coming of age" story if it's about kids. What difference does it make when they'd both be students? The only difference is, you're using a less recognizable lineup and doing passing of the mantle that is completely premature and unearned. I too, fully expect Marvel to capitalize on the "student/puberty metaphors" but with the TRADITIONAL lineup and not some rushed legacy character story that is 10 years too early.

I expect the X-Men to be young adults like they were in Ultimate and 1602 (18-21 range)

 

[Iceman]

Good idea. I haven't even thought about it that way. The main team could be the veterans we all know an love. Xavier, Storm, Jean, Wolverine, Cyclops, Beast, Rogue and Nightcrawler

With the younger members training under these veteran mutants. We could have Iceman, Jubilee, Havoc, Kitty and Angel.

That’s what I want. And veteran doesn’t need to mean 35 year olds. Seeing a couple of years of field action undercover would be plenty relative to the students who have none under their belt yet.

 

[MasterCat]

I think it would be a mistake to introduce lots and lots of X-Men in their first MCU film. Veterans and younger members? How far back in the timeline do you think they want to put Xavier's first class?

I think having Scott, Jean, Beast, Storm and Iceman (or a replacement for him) as 18 year-old students, Xavier, Wolverine, Magneto and a supporting villain would be plenty.

 

[Protar]

I think it would be a mistake to introduce lots and lots of X-Men in their first MCU film. Veterans and younger members? How far back in the timeline do you think they want to put Xavier's first class?

I think having Scott, Jean, Beast, Storm and Iceman (or a replacement for him) as 18 year-old students, Xavier, Wolverine, Magneto and a supporting villain would be plenty.

I'd give Wolverine and Magneto a break. A team of six X-men, Xavier, and Mister Sinister as the villain seems like it would be a solid cast to me.

 

[MasterCat]

I'd give Wolverine and Magneto a break. A team of six X-men, Xavier, and Mister Sinister as the villain seems like it would be a solid cast to me.

You don't think they're going to want to re-establish the Xavier/Magneto relationship again right away? I mean, I thought the way they did it in X-Men: First Class was fantastic, but A) they might take that as a challenge to beat and B) how long do you think they'll leave Wanda Maximoff hanging after getting the X-Men rights?

 

[CaptainWagner]

That's literally the same exact thing. Using a more a brand-new team would still be a "coming of age" story if it's about kids. What difference does it make when they'd both be students? The only difference is, you're using a less recognizable lineup and doing passing of the mantle that is completely premature and unearned. I too, fully expect Marvel to capitalize on the "student/puberty metaphors" but with the TRADITIONAL lineup and not some rushed legacy character story that is 10 years too early.

I expect the X-Men to be young adults like they were in Ultimate and 1602 (18-21 range)

What I meant is that we've already seen Scott and Jean and company come to grips with their powers. We've never gotten Scott as a confident leader, Jean fully in control of her powers, etc... I'd much rather see them as their best selves than retread the same tired water when there are new stories to tell. (Idie, Quentin, and Armor are three who immediately come to mind)

 

[Protar]

You don't think they're going to want to re-establish the Xavier/Magneto relationship again right away? I mean, I thought the way they did it in X-Men: First Class was fantastic, but A) they might take that as a challenge to beat and B) how long do you think they'll leave Wanda Maximoff hanging after getting the X-Men rights?

Maybe if Magneto had only appeared from time to time in the Fox X-men franchise then quickly reintroducing him would not be a problem. But Magneto has been - to some degree or another - the villain in nearly every X-man film, barring Wolverine's solo films. Over almost twenty years. It's time for a break. Bring him in for the second film.

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

I agree. I’d like a post credits scene that involves Magneto watching the news (at his citadel in the savage land) reporting on a group of herioic mutants that saved the president or stopped whatever threat and the camera pans around to reveal him and he has this angry look on his face thus setting up a sequel.

 

[Silvermoth]

That would be cool.

I reckon we won’t even see him in his first after credits sequence. It would just have a bunch of people harassing some mutants and then suddenly, the metal in the air starts to rise...

 

[ernesth100]

I honestly can't wait for Mutant introduction.

 

[Iceman]

I honestly can't wait for Mutant introduction.

The potential for X-Men and mutants in the MCU is one of my most ainticoated things in films. Just hope it all pans out and nothing goes wrong with the deal with Fox.

 

[Iceman]

That would be cool.

I reckon we won’t even see him in his first after credits sequence. It would just have a bunch of people harassing some mutants and then suddenly, the metal in the air starts to rise...

Sounds good to me. If we can get an X-film doing amazingly without Wolverine and Magneto it will be a big step forward. And their eventual appearances will be huge events to come.

 

[psylockolussus]

Should this happen, I think Feige & co would be best to concentrate on characters that haven't exploited by the movies very much (and Wolverine, of course).

I'm thinking of Gambit, Psylocke, Jubilee, Angel, etc.

That would be eXcellent!

 

[psylockolussus]

I hope there isn't an academy or a full blown school yet. So no to young X-Men. Like I want Cyke, Jean, Psylocke, Storm, Bishop, Angel, Gambit, Beast, Havok, Polaris and Rogue eXperienced while some of the members are are younger and less matured like Shadowcat, Jubilee and Iceman. Save the New Mutants, X-Force, X-Factor, Young X-Men, Excalibur, Exiles and Generation X in the mid 2030s. The 2020s should focus on the bigger X-Men characters.

Like I like it when they were a dozen of X-Men in the comics from the 70s to the late 90s and it was just them. The X-Mansion felt like a home, unlike in the post New X-Men era when it became like a mutant boarding school.

 

[Rorschach2012]

I'll wait for Solo to fully judge, but Alden Ehrenreich might be a good Wolverine. He's the right height, and he's got the right look.

 

[Mad Ones]

Here are some options as I see it:

1) Xavier recruits and houses a small group of teens and trains them to be a paramilitary superhero group. This is accurate to the Lee and Kirby era, but not my favourite take.

2) Xavier boards and teaches a small group of teenagers. This group becomes accidentally or unavoidably mixed up with superhero action. These teenagers would be the first generation of X-men and the future teaching staff for when the school gets bigger in the sequels. I could go for this, but it starts a little too small.

3) The first movie takes place as the small first generation of students graduates, become young adults, X-men, and instructors/TA's for a second generation of students. I personally like this the most since it's a happy medium between 2 & 4, though it would require skipping the recruitment of the first generation.

4) The movie begins with a large and robust school student body and faculty. The faculty doubles as members of the X-men. This is essentially the Fox version (and faithful to the comics today), but it has been done and it's probably better to take things slower and smaller.

5) The movie begins with a large and robust school student body and faculty, with a select few students who get trained to be the X-men. This is more like X-men Evolution, and would have the same problems with splitting A-listers across generations and making the older faculty peripheral.

6) The movie is focalized around a new recruit to the X-men from a small student body. The X-men may or may not be instructors, but still operate out of the school.

7) The movie is focalized around a new recruit to the X-men from a large student body. The X-men may or may not be instructors, but still operate out of the school.

 

[Iceman]

I'll wait for Solo to fully judge, but Alden Ehrenreich might be a good Wolverine. He's the right height, and he's got the right look.

He's got the charisma IMO, will have to wait and see if he's got the intensity needed to play Wolverine.

 

[Mangle77]

I hope there isn't an academy or a full blown school yet. So no to young X-Men. Like I want Cyke, Jean, Psylocke, Storm, Bishop, Angel, Gambit, Beast, Havok, Polaris and Rogue eXperienced while some of the members are are younger and less matured like Shadowcat, Jubilee and Iceman. Save the New Mutants, X-Force, X-Factor, Young X-Men, Excalibur, Exiles and Generation X in the mid 2030s. The 2020s should focus on the bigger X-Men characters.

Like I like it when they were a dozen of X-Men in the comics from the 70s to the late 90s and it was just them. The X-Mansion felt like a home, unlike in the post New X-Men era when it became like a mutant boarding school.

... It's ALWAYS been a boarding school. The Xavier School for Gifted Youngsters.

 

[Lip]

My number 1 choice for a director is Justin Simien from Dear White People. I don't know if he's interested in CBMs or anything, but I think he'd be a fantastic choice. He's socially engaged and very smart. He works with TV shows, so he's used to that "collaboration" way of work which seems to be the way Marvel works.

Plus, DWP is very funny, smart, socially engaged, it tackles on issues of race, gender and sexuality. It has great characters and knows very, very well how to handle an ensemble, giving the characters their spotlight. It's basically everything I want the X-Men movies to be.

Also he's black and gay and, unlike Bryan Singer, he cares about other oppressed groups that he's not a part of.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

I'll wait for Solo to fully judge, but Alden Ehrenreich might be a good Wolverine. He's the right height, and he's got the right look.

He's 5'3"?!?!

 

[psylockolussus]

... It's ALWAYS been a boarding school. The Xavier School for Gifted Youngsters.

Yeah because you know Cyclops, Jean and the rest went back home after the school season was over...

 

[AndrewGilkison]

If Marvel didn't race bend Peter Parker they certainly aren't going to make both Professor X AND Magneto black. Lets not go too crazy here.

 

[Detective Conan]

I’m in agreement with that and there’s zero chance they’ll race-swap Wolverine he’s too iconic. Though I’d imagine they would race-swap characters like Beast and Angel though.

 

[Lip]

If Marvel didn't race bend Peter Parker they certainly aren't going to make both Professor X AND Magneto black. Lets not go too crazy here.

The comparisons between Parker and the X-Men make zero sense. Spiderman is a solo hero. The X-Men have, at least, about 20 iconic members. Not to mention the villains or less important members. Spiderman does not have the responsability regardind diversity as the X-Men has. Yet, they made Homecoming ethnically diverse to reflect the real world. Spiderman does not have any strong connection to race issues as the X-Men has, nor has any allusion to Malcolm X and Martin Luther King. And last but not least, Miles Morales exists and will be eventually appearing, so there was no need to change Peter.

But let's just wait and see.

 

[Marvel united]

I think race swaps are definitely going to happen. The question is: who?