MCU X-Men - Part 3

[Rorschach2012]

My ideal introduction to Logan would be to have a separate WOLVERINE/HULK film and not have him as part of the X-MEN cast until at least a second film if not a third. Wolverine could have a couple of films under his belt before joining the team. But that's me.

Agreed. It’d be the perfect introduction

 

[Marvel united]

Universal will get in the way

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

apocalypse could easily be the "thanos" of an entire phase and have a huge event style film with multiple hero teams (avengers, fantastic 4, x-force) with the x-men as the main focus.

kang!!!

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Universal will get in the way

I imagine if it were a solo film. But it'd be a team up.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Apocalypse would really be a great Thanos-esque MCU Big Bad.

"Annoying insects!!! Nothing can stop the Apocalypse!!"

 

[Havok83]

I imagine if it were a solo film. But it'd be a team up.

Yeah it would be no different than Thor Ragnarok

Though, I dont think it should be a team up film. Wolverine's solo introduction should be all about him. Hulk should be used as the antagonist for it. Basically it should be a flip of Logan's comic debut with the movie told from his perspective.

 

[Dark Raven]

Yeah it would be no different than Thor Ragnarok

Though, I dont think it should be a team up film. Wolverine's solo introduction should be all about him. Hulk should be used as the antagonist for it. Basically it should be a flip of Logan's comic debut with the movie told from his perspective.

If they featured Alpha Flight as well, that would be more interesting. Also, make Wendigo the real antagonist. Perhaps Wolverine is sent to the Canadian woods to investigate some killings and cannibalism and capture the Hulk whom Alpha Flight think are responsible. It could even be a nod to Ultimate Hulk who is a cannibal.

But that's as much of a nod as we need. It turns out the cannibal is Wendigo, whom Hulk is fighting, just like in Incredible Hulk #181. But the thing is that Wolverine is a loose canon and doesn't really care. At this point in his career, before joining the X-Men, he's all about kill first, ask questions later.

So he ends up in a battle with the Hulk.

They could even have Banner investigating the same cannibalism and reports of a monster. Setting it in the woods would feel similar to some of the episodes of the TV series.

Alpha Flight are associated with Wolverine, Wendigo and Hulk so it makes sense to feature them as supporting characters too. It would also give us some of Wolverine's background like in the comics.

You don't even need all of Alpha Flight. Just Guardian/Vindicator, Snowbird and Shamen. It could even be a semi adaptation of X-Men #140.

 

[The Infernal]

"I am as far beyond mutants as they are beyond you"

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[CaptainWagner]

Apocalypse would be a great Big Bad post Thanos. I think they could also tie in the Phoenix with a story about these ancient, all-powerful entities (Kind of Cthullu-esque). It would be a unique take that would breathe fresh air into the stories we've all heard before.

 

[Havok83]

Unpopualr opinion but Apocalypse was never a great villian. The 90s cartoon and AoA blew him up to be bigger than he ever was in the main Marvel Universe. People had high hopes for him in the Fox film but I set my expectations low bc he was never awesome in the source material to begin with. His introduction in X-Factor back in the90s was literally the only time he ever worked as a main villian in the MU. I dare anyone to actually name a good Apocalypse story post that in 616. His ghost and ramifications of his actions (namely to Warren) were his biggest contribution to X-men lore

If they featured Alpha Flight as well, that would be more interesting. Also, make Wendigo the real antagonist. Perhaps Wolverine is sent to the Canadian woods to investigate some killings and cannibalism and capture the Hulk whom Alpha Flight think are responsible. It could even be a nod to Ultimate Hulk who is a cannibal.

But that's as much of a nod as we need. It turns out the cannibal is Wendigo, whom Hulk is fighting, just like in Incredible Hulk #181. But the thing is that Wolverine is a loose canon and doesn't really care. At this point in his career, before joining the X-Men, he's all about kill first, ask questions later.

So he ends up in a battle with the Hulk.

They could even have Banner investigating the same cannibalism and reports of a monster. Setting it in the woods would feel similar to some of the episodes of the TV series.

Alpha Flight are associated with Wolverine, Wendigo and Hulk so it makes sense to feature them as supporting characters too. It would also give us some of Wolverine's background like in the comics.

You don't even need all of Alpha Flight. Just Guardian/Vindicator, Snowbird and Shamen. It could even be a semi adaptation of X-Men #140.

I think having Alpha Flight in there might be too much to introduce in one film. I think at most, one character could appear, but not the entire team. They could save that for their own film with the seeds planted here

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

"I am as far beyond mutants as they are beyond you"

[YT]OYt78FWfa5M[/YT]

He really had the best lines in that cartoon.

 

[Iceman]

If they featured Alpha Flight as well, that would be more interesting. Also, make Wendigo the real antagonist. Perhaps Wolverine is sent to the Canadian woods to investigate some killings and cannibalism and capture the Hulk whom Alpha Flight think are responsible. It could even be a nod to Ultimate Hulk who is a cannibal.

But that's as much of a nod as we need. It turns out the cannibal is Wendigo, whom Hulk is fighting, just like in Incredible Hulk #181. But the thing is that Wolverine is a loose canon and doesn't really care. At this point in his career, before joining the X-Men, he's all about kill first, ask questions later.

So he ends up in a battle with the Hulk.

They could even have Banner investigating the same cannibalism and reports of a monster. Setting it in the woods would feel similar to some of the episodes of the TV series.

Alpha Flight are associated with Wolverine, Wendigo and Hulk so it makes sense to feature them as supporting characters too. It would also give us some of Wolverine's background like in the comics.

You don't even need all of Alpha Flight. Just Guardian/Vindicator, Snowbird and Shamen. It could even be a semi adaptation of X-Men #140.

I would love Wendigo to be the real threat like this and the woods would be a great setting for the 3 of them to be individually mixing it up, before Hulk and Wolverine take down Wendigo at the end. Alpha Flight can be supporting characters, not really contributing to the combat but helping set the scene and situation.

 

[The Infernal]

Yeah it would be no different than Thor Ragnarok

Though, I dont think it should be a team up film. Wolverine's solo introduction should be all about him. Hulk should be used as the antagonist for it. Basically it should be a flip of Logan's comic debut with the movie told from his perspective.

I'd actually like to see Wolverine in the antagonist role and give him a smaller, more mysterious role. It would be interesting to see him playing up whether he's friend or foe.

 

[Dark Raven]

Unpopualr opinion but Apocalypse was never a great villian. The 90s cartoon and AoA blew him up to be bigger than he ever was in the main Marvel Universe. People had high hopes for him in the Fox film but I set my expectations low bc he was never awesome in the source material to begin with. His introduction in X-Factor back in the90s was literally the only time he ever worked as a main villian in the MU. I dare anyone to actually name a good Apocalypse story post that in 616. His ghost and ramifications of his actions (namely to Warren) were his biggest contribution to X-men lore



I think having Alpha Flight in there might be too much to introduce in one film. I think at most, one character could appear, but not the entire team. They could save that for their own film with the seeds planted here

I just said above that it wasn't the entire team but only 3 characters (Guardian aka Vindicator, Snowbird and Shaman). Guardian, who is James McDonald Hudson, is the leader of Alpha Flight and Wolverine's would-be boss when he was supposed to join that team.

Snowbird and Shaman are the two mystical ones needed to actually stop Wendigo, because he is a mystical creature. Shaman is needed to perform the incantation that turns Wendigo back into a human. They wouldn't even play that much.

It's not like I said to have Puck, Box, Northstar and Aurora, Marina as well, all in some big fight.

The one other Alpha Flight member who could play is Sasquatch, because he could be mistaken for the Wendigo, even though he's the wrong colour. Hunters would not know how many Wendigos are around and if they're meant to be white or orange. He wouldn't even play that much either.

It's all a plot device to bring both the Hulk and Wolverine into the fight. If there is no Alpha Flight, then what's the reason Wolverine even gets involved in the first place? The whole Hulk/ Wendigo situation could be his first probationary mission to see if he's suitable for the team. It will turn out he's a bit too unpredictable.

I would love Wendigo to be the real threat like this and the woods would be a great setting for the 3 of them to be individually mixing it up, before Hulk and Wolverine take down Wendigo at the end. Alpha Flight can be supporting characters, not really contributing to the combat but helping set the scene and situation.

That's exactly what I'm thinking. They're not there to really fight. But of course, Shaman is needed in the end to turn Wendigo back to human because Wolverine can't exactly do that. And Wolverine will probably want to kill him whereas Alpha Flight will want to save him. That will cause conflict between Wolvie and the team and make him unsuitable.

 

[Havok83]

I just said above that it wasn't the entire team but only 3 characters (Guardian aka Vindicator, Snowbird and Shaman). Guardian, who is James McDonald Hudson, is the leader of Alpha Flight and Wolverine's would-be boss when he was supposed to join that team.

Snowbird and Shaman are the two mystical ones needed to actually stop Wendigo, because he is a mystical creature. Shaman is needed to perform the incantation that turns Wendigo back into a human. They wouldn't even play that much.

It's not like I said to have Puck, Box, Northstar and Aurora, Marina as well, all in some big fight.

The one other Alpha Flight member who could play is Sasquatch, because he could be mistaken for the Wendigo, even though he's the wrong colour. Hunters would not know how many Wendigos are around and if they're meant to be white or orange. He wouldn't even play that much either.

It's all a plot device to bring both the Hulk and Wolverine into the fight. If there is no Alpha Flight, then what's the reason Wolverine even gets involved in the first place? The whole Hulk/ Wendigo situation could be his first probationary mission to see if he's suitable for the team. It will turn out he's a bit too unpredictable.

I think too many characters makes it run the risk of coming across as Alpha Flight light and less like the Wolverine film it should be. 3 + Wolverine = 4 Alpha Flight members and thats pretty much a team there. Thats why I say just 1 is needed. What you proposed seems to heavily influenced by the AF mythos which really should be saved for a film about them

I'd actually like to see Wolverine in the antagonist role and give him a smaller, more mysterious role. It would be interesting to see him playing up whether he's friend or foe.

that only works in a Hulk film and we know that isnt happening with Universal. Wolerine isnt going to be the antagonist in his own solo. The only way around that is to pair up Hulk with another character, like Winter Soldier and bring in Logan to fight them

 

[The Infernal]

that only works in a Hulk film and we know that isnt happening with Universal. Wolerine isnt going to be the antagonist in his own solo. The only way around that is to pair up Hulk with another character, like Winter Soldier and bring in Logan to fight them

Not in a Wolverine solo, but like you say, pair them up with another hero then you can maybe get away with it. Though instead of or in addotion to Winter Soldier I think Captain America would provide good opportunity to reveal through flashback the two meeting in WW2.

 

[Havok83]

Not in a Wolverine solo, but like you say, pair them up with another hero then you can maybe get away with it. Though instead of or in addotion to Winter Soldier I think Captain America would provide good opportunity to reveal through flashback the two meeting in WW2.

Cap could work but I really dont see Chris Evans headlining a 4th film nor do I think he should.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

What if they put Wolverine in the Spidey FFH sequel?

 

[TheVileOne]

What if they put Wolverine in the Spidey FFH sequel?

I hope not. Sort of stupid to shoehorn Wolverine into a Spider-Man story just to put him in there. Plus the deal still isn't cleared.

 

[Dark Raven]

Putting Wolverine in with Spidey instead of Hulk would be the worst thing to happen. Everyone wants Wolverine to appear with Hulk as in the comics. It has to be done. It's such a classic scene.

And when Wolverine first appears, make his mask much smaller like it was originally. Later on he can get a bigger mask.

 

[Marvel united]

Logan can appear in the Bucky Cap film

 

[Marvel united]

Cyclops candidates I put together

'Descendants' Mitchell Hope (24)

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'Darkest Minds' Harris Dickinson (22)

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'Riverdale' KJ Apa (21)

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'Red Band Society' Charlie Rowe (22)

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'Edge of Seventeen' Blake Jenner (25)

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Bonus:

Veronica Powers as Kitty Pryde (17)

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[Iceman]

Would much prefer an intro with Hulk than with Spider-man.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I think a Wolverine/Hulk team up film with Wendigo is compact. No need for Alpha Flight... But you certainly do Alpha Flight in a second Wolverine film. You can basically have that as the groundwork for how and why Logan leaves the service of the Canadian govt. to go south and get recruited by Xavier. Make it a film where Logan actually goes up against AF and show how versatile and dangerous he really is. You can justify it in any way but ultimately it ends with Logan walking away from his role in Alpha Flight. Once he's established with the audience then the new Wolverine joins up with the MCU X-Men in their second or even third film as a new dynamic that can shake up that theoretical series' status quo.

 

[Raiden]

"I am as far beyond mutants as they are beyond you"

[YT]OYt78FWfa5M[/YT]

If they can do Apocalypse as good as they did Thanos...