Marvel Films MCU X-Men - Part 4

[Marvel united]

Yeah these are who I think are the quintessential members. Would be amazing to have a scene with all 13 of them in battle.

How would we all like to see in the MCU brotherhood? Again I hope we get all the important ones like below plus maybe others like Avalanche, Mastermind, Multiple Man, Destiny.

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Same here. For the first iteration, I'd probably go with a blended version of Mystique's. So:

- Destiny (strategist/commander)
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- Avalanche (field leader/strategy executor)
- Rogue
- Toad
- Mastermind (Regan Wyngarde)
- Blob

A healthy mix of new/old members. And I think it would be cool if they took a page out of X-Men: Evolution, and hid Mystique in plain sight, until a reveal at the end of the movie. I think that would leave a lasting impression, and get people excited to see her again

Highly unlike WandaVision rumour:

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Eric would show up and rescue Wanda at the end. And he is the secret actor Paul Bettany said he always wanted to work with, and that will surprise everybody.

I don't see it happening, but...

Well (spoilers relating to Quicksilver)

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It's all but confirmed that Evan Peters is back as Quicksilver. The actor who dubs his lines (for Brazil) accidently leaked it.. Before deleting his tweet. So clearly some changes were made post-deal to incorporate an X-Men element.

Feige is playing coy about this too (Magneto showing up). I think we will see an introduction to the mutant concept in the show

 

[EnDz0n3]

Please no Multiple Man/Jamie Madrox in the Brotherhood. That's one of the many aspects of the Foxverse that I hope never gets repeated: Well-known X-men characters as Brotherhood/Villains. It's a slap in the face when Mystique is now known to the GA as the "leader" of the X-men, where Psylocke has been used (twice!) and as a villain.

Highly unlike WandaVision rumour:

Spoiler

Eric would show up and rescue Wanda at the end. And he is the secret actor Paul Bettany said he always wanted to work with, and that will surprise everybody.

I don't see it happening, but...

Any idea who

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the rumoured actors are cast in the role?

Well (spoilers relating to Quicksilver)

Spoiler

It's all but confirmed that Evan Peters is back as Quicksilver. The actor who dubs his lines (for Brazil) accidently leaked it.. Before deleting his tweet. So clearly some changes were made post-deal to incorporate an X-Men element.

Feige is playing coy about this too (Magneto showing up). I think we will see an introduction to the mutant concept in the show

Thank you for using that word, because I didn't know how I was going to bring it up in this thread. One of the easter eggs in Wandavision is

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a dishwashing liquid soap brand called "Coy" (a play on the brand Joy), which other than the obvious meaning of the word is also the real name of Vietnamese New Mutant Karma aka Xi'an Coy Manh.

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[Lip]

Same here. For the first iteration, I'd probably go with a blended version of Mystique's. So:

- Destiny (strategist/commander)
|-------------------------
- Avalanche (field leader/strategy executor)
- Rogue
- Toad
- Mastermind (Regan Wyngarde)
- Blob

A healthy mix of new/old members. And I think it would be cool if they took a page out of X-Men: Evolution, and hid Mystique in plain sight, until a reveal at the end of the movie. I think that would leave a lasting impression, and get people excited to see her again



Well (spoilers relating to Quicksilver)

Spoiler

It's all but confirmed that Evan Peters is back as Quicksilver. The actor who dubs his lines (for Brazil) accidently leaked it.. Before deleting his tweet. So clearly some changes were made post-deal to incorporate an X-Men element.

Feige is playing coy about this too (Magneto showing up). I think we will see an introduction to the mutant concept in the show

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I saw that interview. I think he was just being coy becaus of Pietro. I do think he will show up. Not sure if he'll be brought back to life tho.

 

[Lip]

Any idea who

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Bettany just said it's someone he always wanted to work with.

And english is not my first language. I don't know if "actor" can be gender neutral. But I am assuming it's a man.

 

[JP]

I don't wanna get my hopes up, because as far as we know from Feige's comments mutants are still a little ways away. But with all these rumors regarding certain characters in WandaVision, Captain Marvel 2, Thor 4, etc... maybe where there's smoke, there's fire

 

[Rem]

Please no Multiple Man/Jamie Madrox in the Brotherhood. That's one of the many aspects of the Foxverse that I hope never gets repeated: Well-known X-men characters as Brotherhood/Villains. It's a slap in the face when Mystique is now known to the GA as the "leader" of the X-men, where Psylocke has been used (twice!) and as a villain.

He was a member of the brotherhood in the ultimate comics long before his 2 scenes in one fox movie. As a member of the brotherhood he has more of an interesting/unique role rather than as a supporting character or in a spin-off team.


It’s been said in here that they may look to the ultimate comics for inspiration so it’s not really a slap in the face when its taking cues from established comics. He was also a villain in the Wolverine and the X-Men cartoon so it’s not exactly a new idea.

 

[Lip]

I don't wanna get my hopes up, because as far as we know from Feige's comments mutants are still a little ways away. But with all these rumors regarding certain characters in WandaVision, Captain Marvel 2, Thor 4, etc... maybe where there's smoke, there's fire

Feige didn't say anything about the X-Men in that comic con event, but he did mention the introduction of mutants. I think it might take a little while for us to see the X-Men, but not mutants.

I'm expecting WandaVision to, at least, effectively introduce us to the concept of mutants. If that doesn't happen, then yeah, I don't see mutants showing up in CM2, Thor 4, BP2, etc...

 

[BobJM]

Multiple Man could really be a cool character for the MCU to run with.

 

[CaptainWagner]

I definitely would want the MCU Brotherhood predominantly led by Mystique and Destiny first, with Magneto staying in the shadows. I'm not a big fan of Madrox as a villain. I'd rather see him working for Xavier, with his dups conducting ops all over the world. Top two castings:

Jimmi Simpson

Glenn Howerton

 

[EnDz0n3]

He was a member of the brotherhood in the ultimate comics long before his 2 scenes in one fox movie. As a member of the brotherhood he has more of an interesting/unique role rather than as a supporting character or in a spin-off team.

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It’s been said in here that they may look to the ultimate comics for inspiration so it’s not really a slap in the face when its taking cues from established comics. He was also a villain in the Wolverine and the X-Men cartoon so it’s not exactly a new idea.

Although I'll trust you when you say Madrox's role as a Brotherhood member was handled better (I've long stopped reading Ultimate X-men by the time he made his appearance), "'Ultimate Comics' did it!" hardly gives me confidence.

Afterall this is the same set of books that had Wanda and Pietro in an incestuous relationship, had Blob literally chow down on The Wasp's corpse, and insinuated that Wolverine (in Peter Parker's body) did things in the bedroom with a teen Mary Jane.

Edit: After googling Multiple Man's Ultimate appearance though, I guess I can add "Ultimate X-men should be blamed for Ratner (and Kinberg and Penn) being able to brag about his X3 and I'm paraphrasing: 'Everything in my movie was based on the comics. The writers (K and P) came to me and showed me the pages from the comics!"

 

[Silvermoth]

How cool is this? I saw it on Reddit

 

[psylockolussus]

Multiple Man could really be a cool character for the MCU to run with.

Yeah hopefully they use him in a X-Factor spin off film.

And I enjoyed his short run as a X-Man in the recent comiXs.

 

[Rem]

and Pietro in an incestuous relationship, had Blob literally chow down on The Wasp's corpse, and insinuated that Wolverine (in Peter Parker's body) did things in the bedroom with a teen Mary Jane.

These were all things that happened way later in the books by different writers after they had lost their direction. Madrox was introduced pretty early on as a villain by Mark Millar who launched both Ultimate X-Men and the Ultimates. The MCU has already taken a lot of inspo from Miller’s Ultimates so I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same for X-Men.

 

[Boom]

Potential WandaVision Spoilers:

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What's the working theory on why they'd bring in Evan Peters' Quicksilver and not Aaron Taylor-Johnson's?

And the Magneto thing seems wishful thinking.

 

[The Shape]

Potential WandaVision Spoilers:

Spoiler

What's the working theory on why they'd bring in Evan Peters' Quicksilver and not Aaron Taylor-Johnson's?

And the Magneto thing seems wishful thinking.

A way to introduce multiverse shenanigans.

 

[JP]

most of it makes little sense so I guess we'll see.

fan theories tend to be extravagant.

 

[EnDz0n3]

These were all things that happened way later in the books by different writers after they had lost their direction. Madrox was introduced pretty early on as a villain by Mark Millar who launched both Ultimate X-Men and the Ultimates. The MCU has already taken a lot of inspo from Miller’s Ultimates so I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same for X-Men.

Yea it's fair to say The Avengers movies adapted quite a few things from the Ultimates books but I'm hoping Feige doesn't do the same for the X-men. I view most of the changes the Ultimate books made just for shock value (the aforementioned Wanda/Pietro scenario).

Imagine if you're a Psylocke fanboy and in the 20 year lifespan of the Fox movieverse she was never an X-man, and MCU comes along, and *finally* someone who gets *it* is at the helm and then Feige introduces her as part of the Brotherhood.

Now substitute Multiple Man (for Psylocke) in that sentence.

most of it makes little sense so I guess we'll see.

fan theories tend to be extravagant.

Unfortunately fan theories now have a megaphone in Youtube videos, with thousands of views, that spout out the most ridiculous and fact-free content. That's the world we live in though. I'm all for fan theorizing on message boards but when you get Official(-sounding) sources churning out content every week, for their views and fan eyeballs, you just start to tune out that noise.

 

[Marvel united]

Yea it's fair to say The Avengers movies adapted quite a few things from the Ultimates books but I'm hoping Feige doesn't do the same for the X-men. I view most of the changes the Ultimate books made just for shock value (the aforementioned Wanda/Pietro scenario).

Imagine if you're a Psylocke fanboy and in the 20 year lifespan of the Fox movieverse she was never an X-man, and MCU comes along, and *finally* someone who gets *it* is at the helm and then Feige introduces her as part of the Brotherhood.

Now substitute Multiple Man (for Psylocke) in that sentence.

Unfortunately fan theories now have a megaphone in Youtube videos, with thousands of views, that spout out the most ridiculous and fact-free content. That's the world we live in though. I'm all for fan theorizing on message boards but when you get Official(-sounding) sources churning out content every week, you just start to tune out that noise.

To be fair, the Ultimate X-Men comics did a lot of updating & modernizing-- caracters/concepts. For instance, many of the OG X-Men origin stories are dated (Colossus, Storm, Nightcrawler, Forge, even Rogue-- the hippie parents angle doesn't work anymore)- and Ultimate X-Men modernized all of them, in a highly believable way while still staying true to the spirit of the source material.

Now, Marvel's gonna be looking at ways to differentiate their X-Men from Fox's films. The Ultimate comics are ripe for at least some adaptation, because a) it's version of the X-Men mythology that comes modernized pre-canned and b) Most of it's material was never used by Fox

Spider-Man: Homecoming used quite a bit of 60s/616 icongraphy but the characterizations, and presentation of certain ideas, were much more in-line with the Ultimate comics.

 

[Protar]

Potential WandaVision Spoilers:

Spoiler

What's the working theory on why they'd bring in Evan Peters' Quicksilver and not Aaron Taylor-Johnson's?

And the Magneto thing seems wishful thinking.

One theory I read (and it's just a theory) is that -

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Evan Peters is actually playing Mephisto, but will at one point masquerade as a sitcom version of Quicksilver in a meta-joke on sitcoms recasting characters. I.e we may get an episode or two with Aaron Taylor Johnson's Quicksilver and then without explanation switch to Peters, before uncovering his true identity.

I don't think they'll be going with the multiverse route with Quicksilver. Outside of the aforementioned theory I think it more likely that Evan Peters is playing an unrelated role and people are just overhyping the Quicksilver connection. Plenty of actors from other superhero franchises have later appeared in the MCU. Michael B Jordan wasn't playing an multiverse version of the Human Torch. I just don't see why Fiege would want to connect the MCU in anyway to the Foxverse which was a mixed bag, had very poor continuity and ended its run so poorly.

 

[LoganPool]

I just posted this on the WandaVision thread, but thought it appropriate here too...

What if...

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In episode 3, Herb and Agnus are discussing "Geraldine" and why she's there. Herb says. "She's here because we're all ---." And Vision responds, "We're all what?"

That's the big question.

Well, what if...

She's here because we're all MUTANTS.:

 

[SumT]

Is it possible to discuss Wandavision stuff, spoilers and rumors on another thread? its becoming a bit complicated to follow this thread without knowing/getting an idea of what you guys are talking about, aside from so many spoilers tags......

just a suggestion/petition. It would be appreciated, from those who want to discuss MCU XMen without talking about Wandavision since its airing right now.

 

[Protar]

Is it possible to discuss Wandavision stuff, spoilers and rumors on another thread? its becoming a bit complicated to follow this thread without knowing/getting an idea of what you guys are talking about, aside from so many spoilers tags......

just a suggestion/petition. It would be appreciated, from those who want to discuss MCU XMen without talking about Wandavision since its airing right now.

Surely rumours about mutants making their MCU debut are relevant to this thread though. If we can't talk about them here what else is there to talk about that hasn't been rehashed a dozen times over since the rights returned to Marvel? We've actually got something new to talk about.

 

[Boom]

Who are the popular choices for Magneto these days?

 

[JP]

Unfortunately fan theories now have a megaphone in Youtube videos, with thousands of views, that spout out the most ridiculous and fact-free content. That's the world we live in though. I'm all for fan theorizing on message boards but when you get Official(-sounding) sources churning out content every week, for their views and fan eyeballs, you just start to tune out that noise.

OMG it's WILD. Like, I haven't followed a movie on this forum since DoFP, and in recent weeks I've been getting back into it and these youtube videos are insane. They're all so baseless and get 100K+ views in 1 hour.

 

[JP]

I just posted this on the WandaVision thread, but thought it appropriate here too...

What if...

Spoiler

In episode 3, Herb and Agnus are discussing "Geraldine" and why she's there. Herb says. "She's here because we're all ---." And Vision responds, "We're all what?"

That's the big question.

Well, what if...

She's here because we're all MUTANTS.:

That was my first and immediate thought/hope.