Marvel Films MCU X-Men - Part 4

[Protar]

Well, thats the thing-- allow me to play devil's advocate. When you look at X-Men from the prism of what's been done before, the O5 start to make more sense, because it's the only thing that hasn't been done. Now normally, it would make sense to go with a blended lineup (as the Avengers did), but as you said, Fox has already done it, multiple times. We've seen many composite lineups but we've never seen the O5.

Regarding diversity, many of these elements are already sort of baked into the framework of the team. Beast and Angel are technically non-human passing, so you could explore similar themes with them. Racially & culturally speaking, the O5 are a blank slate, which leaves a lot of room for interpretation, much like the Eternals. Feige can make the O5 his own, in a way he can't really do with the others, without radically changing what they are. He has complete freedom.

Jean being the only woman is problematic, and I agree, so make her the leader (like X-Men: Blue did). Not only does it center her, and make her the voice of the team, but it also sets up an amazing arc for Scott as he tries to find his. Contrary to popular belief, Scott Summers does not start off as a badass commando figure, and I'd argue it isn't even the core of who he is.

Much like Steve Rogers, Scott started from a much more humble position. He was a shy young man with social anxiety & trust issues, who didn't quite know how to express himself. Jean sort of brought him out of his shell.

A lot of good points here. I think at the very least, if we do get the O5, it will be the O5 plus Storm, because I don't see them excluding her and with a few tweaks that makes for a diverse and modern team.

 

[BobJM]

A lot of good points here. I think at the very least, if we do get the O5, it will be the O5 plus Storm, because I don't see them excluding her and with a few tweaks that makes for a diverse and modern team.

I agree that it’d be O5 +, but 6 characters (and Xavier, and all the supporting/antagonists) might get overly bloated.

But I wonder if people would be mad if MCU used 4 of the O5, and didn’t go full till. Can’t we swap out Beast or take a break from him? We’ve been seeing him pretty steadily since 2011...

Do we need another big/‘monstrous’ smart guy right now with Smart Hulk? Maybe that’ll be null by the time X-Men ramps up, but regardless it might be more interesting to see McCoy in a fresh environment, like with the Avengers, Valerie Cooper’s X-Factor, or maybe even Muir Island.

 

[Protar]

I agree that it’d be O5 +, but 6 characters (and Xavier, and all the supporting/antagonists) might get overly bloated.

But I wonder if people would be mad if MCU used 4 of the O5, and didn’t go full till. Can’t we swap out Beast or take a break from him? We’ve been seeing him pretty steadily since 2011...

Do we need another big/‘monstrous’ smart guy right now with Smart Hulk? Maybe that’ll be null by the time X-Men ramps up, but regardless it might be more interesting to see McCoy in a fresh environment, like with the Avengers, Valerie Cooper’s X-Factor, or maybe even Muir Island.

I think six characters is the sweet spot, mirroring the six original MCU avengers. Granted, we were already introduced to all of the Avengers before they teamed up, but with over a decade of experience in juggling large casts successfully I think the MCU can handle it. Especially if we do get introduced to some of the X-men in other films and TV shows before they appear in their own film.

I actually don't expect a huge central role from Xavier, keep him in the background as the Nick Fury figure bringing the characters together. We've already seen a lot of very Xavier centric films.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

This, plus Kitty Pryde and Kurt is my absolute dream roster. I hope to see all of them in a third movie, fighting giant sentinels or Magneto. Or both.

If we ever get this full scan in live action with the team in these comic accurate costumes and full displays of power, I will literally cry tears of joy.

 

[BobJM]

I think six characters is the sweet spot, mirroring the six original MCU avengers. Granted, we were already introduced to all of the Avengers before they teamed up, but with over a decade of experience in juggling large casts successfully I think the MCU can handle it. Especially if we do get introduced to some of the X-men in other films and TV shows before they appear in their own film.

I actually don't expect a huge central role from Xavier, keep him in the background as the Nick Fury figure bringing the characters together. We've already seen a lot of very Xavier centric films.

I was thinking 5 because of GOTG—different MCU references lol. And yeah, I don’t expect Xavier to have a large role, nor central, but he’ll be present nonetheless. Fury was in The Avengers for quite a chunk of it.

 

[BobJM]

If we ever get this full scan in live action with the team in these comic accurate costumes and full displays of power, I will literally cry tears of joy.

THIS is X-Men, IMO. A full-on tracking shot of this really would be crazy for fans.

Would love the MCU to try to capture famous iconography from X-lore over the years—obviously, so many to choose from:

 

[Iceman]

This, plus Kitty Pryde and Kurt is my absolute dream roster. I hope to see all of them in a third movie, fighting giant sentinels or Magneto. Or both.

Adding those 2 in would make the complete lineup of who I consider the most “core” X-Men. It would be amazing if we ever got them all together in the way IW and EG combined so many MCU characters.

 

[Marvel united]

This is still my dream roster for the first movie.
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I would throw Storm in Rogue’s place to give her time as a supervillain and save Rogue for the sequel, but this would be my team. I notice a lot of the X-Men merchandise on the Disney store is from the Jim Lee era, it’ll be interesting if that’s the direction they go.

But yeah give me this team, Ava DuVernay at the helm as writer/director (because New Gods has a snowball’s chance) and I’d be a merry mutant.

This, plus Kitty Pryde and Kurt is my absolute dream roster. I hope to see all of them in a third movie, fighting giant sentinels or Magneto. Or both.

Jim Lee absolutely is the pinnacle. It's the peak, the apex, the definitive. That lineup means so much to the franchise-- not just in terms of wider acclaim, but also within the context of the comic itself. X-Men '91 was Claremont's magnum opus; the culmination of decades of storytelling & world building.

I think that's how you cap the trilogy. X-Men at their peak (90s) vs Magneto in an epic confrontation that's been seeded, and built up over multiple X-Universe films/shows. X-Men 3 can be the culmination of everything.

A lot of good points here. I think at the very least, if we do get the O5, it will be the O5 plus Storm, because I don't see them excluding her and with a few tweaks that makes for a diverse and modern team.

Agreed. I think by making Storm a bit older (more big sister* as opposed to mother), you can sort of make her a guardian to the younger O5. She keeps them safe on field missions because Xavier doesn't want them unaccompanied.

So she's basically their babysitter, which could be a fun, and potentially heartwarming dynamic to explore.

I agree that it’d be O5 +, but 6 characters (and Xavier, and all the supporting/antagonists) might get overly bloated.

But I wonder if people would be mad if MCU used 4 of the O5, and didn’t go full till. Can’t we swap out Beast or take a break from him? We’ve been seeing him pretty steadily since 2011...

Do we need another big/‘monstrous’ smart guy right now with Smart Hulk? Maybe that’ll be null by the time X-Men ramps up, but regardless it might be more interesting to see McCoy in a fresh environment, like with the Avengers, Valerie Cooper’s X-Factor, or maybe even Muir Island.

I think the best argument for using Beast again is the O5. We still haven't seen a comic accurate human Beast yet


An ape man running around on all fours, jumping around, is such a bizzare & unique visual, that it sells itself as something completely different on aesthetic alone. It's a completely different character

I think the technology (Mocap CG) is at the point where they can make this as weird as it is in the comics but still keep it (at least relatively) believable.

 

[BobJM]

I think the best argument for using Beast again is the O5. We still haven't seen a comic accurate human Beast yet
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An ape man running around on all fours, jumping around, is such a bizzare & unique visual, that it sells itself as something completely different on aesthetic alone. It's a completely different character

I think the technology (Mocap CG) is at the point where they can make this as weird as it is in the comics but still keep it (at least relatively) believable.

Interesting. I wonder how that’d be handled—maybe a mix of practical & mocap?

His further evolutions could be a multi-film arc for him. Now that’s a more interesting narrative I could get behind. Good call

 

[BobJM]

If the first film is the O5 + Storm, she should still be the same age. If anything, she should be the one they’re recruiting, and our POV character. She’s a bit of worldly reality for our sequestered original team in their stately New York manor (broad strokes, of course).

That’d lay an awesome foundation for her to eventually lead the team.

 

[BobJM]

If the first film is the O5 + Storm, she should still be the same age. If anything, she should be the one they’re recruiting, and our POV character. She’s a bit of worldly reality for our sequestered original team in their stately New York manor (broad strokes, of course).

That’d lay an awesome foundation for her to eventually lead the team.

This way, you could even have a limited Disney+ series that explores each origin of the O5, and further devote the first film to Storm’s story & more interpersonal development.

 

[Protar]

I'd like Storm to be a couple years older than the rest. If the others are 15/16 I'd like to see Storm be 18-20. Still plenty of room for growth, but a bit more worldly and confident. I think she naturally falls into a leadership role.

 

[Lip]

If we ever get this full scan in live action with the team in these comic accurate costumes and full displays of power, I will literally cry tears of joy.

Add that to the amazing TAS main theme playing when we see Marvel Studios logo.

Marvel's Uncanny X-Men!

 

[MbJ]

 

[Silvermoth]

That looks amazing!

we absolutely do need to see magneto rip off the adamantium from wolverine. The general audience deserves to see that happen

 

[Silvermoth]

I like the idea of cgi McCoy, thanks for sharing those pics marvel United

 

[Rem]

This, plus Kitty Pryde and Kurt is my absolute dream roster. I hope to see all of them in a third movie, fighting giant sentinels or Magneto. Or both.

Yeah these are who I think are the quintessential members. Would be amazing to have a scene with all 13 of them in battle.

How would we all like to see in the MCU brotherhood? Again I hope we get all the important ones like below plus maybe others like Avalanche, Mastermind, Multiple Man, Destiny.

 

[BobJM]

Yeah these are who I think are the quintessential members. Would be amazing to have a scene with all 13 of them in battle.

How would we all like to see in the MCU brotherhood? Again I hope we get all the important ones like below plus maybe others like Avalanche, Mastermind, Multiple Man, Destiny.

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That picture right there looks pretty perfect for a MCU Brotherhood.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

The more I think about X-Men, the more relevant it seems today more than ever. If Disney really goes there they can draw from not only the racial unrest going on in the country as a parallel to human-mutant relations, but use the Legacy Virus also.

LEGACY-19 virus starts ravaging the MCU in the wake of the Snap being undone. Sort of like a side effect. The public blames it on the new populace of mutants since it came about as soon they were discovered.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Yeah they need to wait a good while before they start making legacy parallels to covid.

 

[Lip]

Yeah these are who I think are the quintessential members. Would be amazing to have a scene with all 13 of them in battle.

How would we all like to see in the MCU brotherhood? Again I hope we get all the important ones like below plus maybe others like Avalanche, Mastermind, Multiple Man, Destiny.

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I like everybody in that pic. But I'm not sure about Eric and Mystique working together. I like the idea of them working separately, and each having their own brotherhood.

Mystique's: Destiny, Blob, Pyro, Avalanche and, at the beginning, Rogue.

Magneto's: Wanda, Pietro, Mastermind, Juggernault, Toad. Of course, depending on what they have planned for Wanda, and if they will bring back Pietro.

Very classic roster.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I like everybody in that pic. But I'm not sure about Eric and Mystique working together. I like the idea of them working separately, and each having their own brotherhood.

Mystique's: Destiny, Blob, Pyro, Avalanche and, at the beginning, Rogue.

Magneto's: Wanda, Pietro, Mastermind, Juggernault, Toad. Of course, depending on what they have planned for Wanda, and if they will bring back Pietro.

Very classic roster.

That would be a full circle homecoming for Wanda/Pietro wouldn't it? Starting out as pawns of Hydra and Ultron, then defecting to the Avengers, then going crazy in this Multiverse of Madness, then finally meeting her father and joining his Brotherhood.

A dark full circle, but full circle nonetheless lol

 

[Lip]

That would be a full circle homecoming for Wanda/Pietro wouldn't it? Starting out as pawns of Hydra and Ultron, then defecting to the Avengers, then going crazy in this Multiverse of Madness, then finally meeting her father and joining his Brotherhood.

A dark full circle, but full circle nonetheless lol

Highly unlike WandaVision rumour:

Spoiler

Eric would show up and rescue Wanda at the end. And he is the secret actor Paul Bettany said he always wanted to work with, and that will surprise everybody.

I don't see it happening, but...

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Highly unlike WandaVision rumour:

Spoiler

Eric would show up and rescue Wanda at the end. And he is the secret actor Paul Bettany said he always wanted to work with, and that will surprise everybody.

I don't see it happening, but...

Listen, if that's true I will LOSE MY S**T!

 

[Lip]

Listen, if that's true I will LOSE MY S**T!

Me too.

Spoiler

And I actually can see an upcoming adaptation of House of M with Eric as sort of a "background thread". Where he's like part of the reality she creates, maybe even the one who influences her?, but he's not a major or lead thread.