Marvel Films MCU X-Men - Part 4

[Mad Ones]

It is worth thinking about generations of heroes and which heroes should be peers of each other (I'm not talking about actors' ages, but rather how old their characters are imagined to be).

Xavier, Moira, Magneto, and Banshee should be around Fury's age.

Beast, Storm, Cyclops, Wolverine and Jean need to appear the same age, and I can't see them being Spider-man's age. They should be contemporaries with Wanda, Black Widow, and Black Panther.

Rogue, Gambit, Dazzler, Havok, Polaris, Nightcrawler, and Colossus should be younger, but not teens/students.

The New Mutants + Kitty Pryde should be the oldest generation of students and the same age as Peter Parker (throw Iceman into this group to change things up? I'm undecided).

The Academy X kids (Surge, Hellion, Dust, Anole, Rockslide, Armour, etc) should be the youngest students and fill up the school to make it feel lived-in.

Healing factor characters (Wolverine, Mystique, Sabretooth, etc) should be much older, but should look like contemporaries of Captain America (who looks the same age as Wanda, Black Widow, and Black Panther).

Cable and Bishop are time-travellers and can be whatever age they need to be.

I also think it's extremely important that mutations not be introduced as "superpowers for everyone!" I strongly believe that mutations should manifest most commonly more banal things compared to superpowers (scales, cat-eyes, extra arm, see-through skin). The X-men are mutants assembled because they are the rare ones with mutations that require training to manage.

 

[Lip]

Rogue, Gambit, Dazzler, Havok, Polaris, Nightcrawler, and Colossus should be younger, but not teens/students.

I kind of picture Rogue and Alex being late teens. Between 17-19. But I'm more than fine with them being early 20's. And I also picture Kurt to be the same age as Scott/Jean/Ororo.

But overall I agree with everything you said.

 

[Mad Ones]

I always forget that Rogue is younger than I think she is.

 

[Marvel united]

It is worth thinking about generations of heroes and which heroes should be peers of each other (I'm not talking about actors' ages, but rather how old their characters are imagined to be).

Xavier, Moira, Magneto, and Banshee should be around Fury's age.

Beast, Storm, Cyclops, Wolverine and Jean need to appear the same age, and I can't see them being Spider-man's age. They should be contemporaries with Wanda, Black Widow, and Black Panther.

Rogue, Gambit, Dazzler, Havok, Polaris, Nightcrawler, and Colossus should be younger, but not teens/students.

The New Mutants + Kitty Pryde should be the oldest generation of students and the same age as Peter Parker (throw Iceman into this group to change things up? I'm undecided).

The Academy X kids (Surge, Hellion, Dust, Anole, Rockslide, Armour, etc) should be the youngest students and fill up the school to make it feel lived-in.

Healing factor characters (Wolverine, Mystique, Sabretooth, etc) should be much older, but should look like contemporaries of Captain America (who looks the same age as Wanda, Black Widow, and Black Panther).

Cable and Bishop are time-travellers and can be whatever age they need to be.

I also think it's extremely important that mutations not be introduced as "superpowers for everyone!" I strongly believe that mutations should manifest most commonly more banal things compared to superpowers (scales, cat-eyes, extra arm, see-through skin). The X-men are mutants assembled because they are the rare ones with mutations that require training to manage.

Why wouldn't they be? Why would Scott, Jean and Beast not be peers of Spider-Man when that's exactly what they were in the source material?



As we've been over before -- the X-Men were NEVER peers of the Avengers. I'm genuinely perplexed, where is the notion that they ever were even coming from? They were always the same age as Spider-Man or in that age-group.. Why would the O5 be In their mid 30s to early 40s (since you mentioned T'Challa) like the rest of the Avengers? That would make them predate the Avengers by a good 8-9 years. It makes no sense. You bring in Academy X and New Mutants and that means the school has been around for nearly 20 years in secret (2002-2022). These people; dozens of mutant superheroes and splinter teams have been active and sitting on their thumbs since before Stark even became Iron Man? Where have they been all this time? The school/X-Mansion you're envisioning is the one we had In Astonishing X-Men onwards where mutants had been public knowledge for 45 years. It was a private school with only a handful dozen of students (which were the 70s lineup) living there. It was more like Summer Camp. The Singer films popularized the idea of the X-Mansion being some huge school with hundreds of students and the comics assimilated this idea.

Also, why would Kurt, Rogue, Alex, Remy and Alison be much younger than Scott, Jean, and Ororo when these people were all the same age-range in the comics? Havok being more than 8+ younger than Scott means that he was not born when Scott was pushed out the plane by their parents during the Shi'ar ambush. So where/how would Alex Summers even come into existence when Scott's mom is dead and his dad is in space? It just seems like a pointless change to justify having a 35 year old seasoned Scott Summers in the MCU.

Colossus needs to be a teenager in order to have his relationship with Kitty Pryde be feasible in the MCU. Piotr was 19 when he was introduced but he should be 17 like he was Ultimate so he's not legally an adult. The Romeo and Juliet analogy Claremont was drawing I highly doubt would go over well with people today.

Charles, Moira and Sean should be peers of Marisa Tomei, Robert Downey Jr and Jon Favreau imo. Early to mid 50s. Starting off with a Charles in his mid 70s makes little sense for longevity. Jackson was in his late 50s when he was cast as Fury. Sir Patrick Stewart was 58.

 

[Frankeh]

Oh no Mad Ones what have you done, here we go again...

 

[Mad Ones]

Obviously I didn't mean for all of what I posted to be established in the first movie. Sliding timescales obviously make comic book ages super fluid.

Oh no Mad Ones what have you done, here we go again...

Woops!

 

[sleekstereo]

The X-Men should be younger than the Avengers, between 18 to 25 years old.

 

[Lip]

Obviously I didn't mean for all of what I posted to be established in the first movie. Sliding timescales obviously make comic book ages super fluid.

There should be different generations of mutants, and the way you put was great for me.

And honestly, I'm willing to bet the MCU X-Men will be closer to the Avengers in terms of age than Peter Parker. But we'll see...

 

[Lip]

Anyway...Will Black Panther start production this year? Can you imagine a few months from now reading a news like this: "Kiki Layne joins the cast of Black Panther"?

 

[Heretic]

Xavier and Logan (among others) will be "awful heroes" too? Or will they also be introduced with 12 years old in the MCU?

Nah. I think Wolverine really works as a loner who has been in hiding in the woods OR captive as part of Weapon X. I'm fine with his powers being triggered long ago and he just stayed to himself.

Professor X is a bit problematic. Theoretically, you could explain that he discovered this dormant gene years ago and has been researching it...maybe triggered himself as an adult somehow...and has been working to help kids who are now being triggered en masse due to whatever causes a the mutant gene to become a known thing.

My issue is more that there is a highly trained group of adults who are a team who simply just never showed up before.

 

[SumT]

The X-Men should be younger than the Avengers, between 18 to 25 years old.

we already got than from Fox with Apocaylpse young cast.

I honestly need something different from Marvel Studios, age included. Its been too long without adult x-men on the theatres.

Kitty, Iceman and Jubilee are the obvious teenagers choice, the rest can be adults and the audience will love them the same way. 90s show is the perfect example. we dont need an all teenager cast, just like the iconic 90s show didnt need them either.

 

[Marvel united]

Anyway...Will Black Panther start production this year? Can you imagine a few months from now reading a news like this: "Kiki Layne joins the cast of Black Panther"?

Coogler signed on to write and direct the sequel and production Is planned for later this year-earlier 2020
Ryan Coogler Signs On to Write and Direct 'Black Panther' Sequel (Exclusive)

So Storm will be available to Marvel and the path for Kiki to pursue the role would be clear.

There should be different generations of mutants, and the way you put was great for me.

And honestly, I'm willing to bet the MCU X-Men will be closer to the Avengers in terms of age than Peter Parker. But we'll see...

I'm willing to bet they won't. Based on the virtue of Spider-Man not being 27 years old in Civil War with 10 years of experience.

A seasoned X-Men team that's been active for more than 6 years just doesn't jive with the way the MCU has structured it's heroes. The oldest I could see them going for the main X-Men is early 20s. (20-24 years old). But predating the Avengers is a no-no. Trying to make the X-Men peers of the Avengers (and not Spider-Man like they are meant to be) and ignoring 20 years of comic history makes no sense.

By the time they debut in the MCU - Peter Parker will be out of HS. He will be 18 in 2022 (sliding timescale). Bobby has started his first year of HS this year. Maybe they have just formed the X-Men and they're currently training. That makes Scott currently 17 years old, Jean 16, Warren 16, Bobby 14 and Hank 19. When we meet them in a few years - Scott is 19-20, Jean is 18-19, Warren 18-19, Hank 21-22 and Bobby 16-17 in 2021-2022. Young adults as they were in Giant-Sized X-Men.

Storm is a few years older, not an X-Men yet. She's still in Kenya isolated from the world and she's currenly 20. Kitty and Jubilee are currently still in Elementary School (They were both introduced as 13 year olds, people) Rogue is currenly a runway and 15.

 

[Silvermoth]

Marvel Planning Several X-Men TV Shows For Disney Plus

Marvel Studios seems to be embracing the opportunity to create new material for Disney’s upcoming streaming service Disney Plus with both hands. So far, we’ve heard a lot about a Loki TV series, Vision and the Scarlet Witch, a spy thriller show for Winter Soldier and Falcon and many, many more. Essentially, it seems the studio’s looking for gaps in the MCU that can be filled, but it seems that execs are casting the net even further than that and are also considering developing multiple TV series based on the X-Men universe.

An x-men tv series would knock my socks off. Like not a grimdark set in the same universe type deal, a proper xmen adventure with magneto throwing things around etc

 

[rebellion]

You're talking to a guy who is currently skipping about every other MCU film in theaters and have mostly stopped watching the tv shows (and I CERTAINLY am not seeing any X-Men related movies from Fox in theaters and haven't since Origins: Wolverine). I don't mind a good excuse (like...the Guardians were on the other side of the universe or Wakanda was intentionally minding its own business) but if it's a lazy excuse, then I just won't go to see it.

Well.... Congrats!

 

[TheVileOne]

Marvel Planning Several X-Men TV Shows For Disney Plus



An x-men tv series would knock my socks off. Like not a grimdark set in the same universe type deal, a proper xmen adventure with magneto throwing things around etc

Looks like fake clickbait news.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

X-men should be almost 30 in this rebooted version
Beast older and Iceman Rogue Colossus Cannonball younger
Jubilee and Kitty the youngest

 

[The Infernal]

I think an older Beast would work great if they could make him an Avenger.

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

I'd personally like a team full of adults. The teens could be students (or future X-Men in training). At the most I'd everyone to be 21-25 and Xavier possibly in his late 40s to early 50s. Feige has said he wants to use characters that weren't seen yet, and I'm thinking he wants to see a racially diverse squad, so I can see these guys:
Cyclops
Jean Grey
Thunderbird (the wolverine in the group)
Polaris
Sunfire
Storm
Havok

I can see Thunderbird being a one and done character silimar to the comic he dies on a mission. I also can see Polaris,Havok quitting the time (in a sequel) which could lead to an X-Factor spin-off, also I love to see how her relationship w/Xavier being with him knowing she's the daughter of Magneto and how he feels about her being an X-Man. I'd like to see the brotherly rivalry between Scott and Havok.

in future movies; Gambit, Rogue, Bishop, Psylocke, Beast, etc, etc

 

[Mad Ones]

I personally would focus on Beast as an Avenger and less as an X-man.

 

[Boy Scout]

I’d split the difference and have the X-Men be in their very early twenties. The oldest member (assuming they give Wolverine a breather) wouldn’t be older than 24.

 

[Lip]

Looks like fake clickbait news.

It could be clickbait, but the idea is not unrealistic. If Disney indeed has plans for shows in their streaming service, the X-Men provides a universe of characters to explore.

 

[Lip]

I'd personally like a team full of adults. The teens could be students

IMO, the X-Men should be adults. New Mutants is the super hero team with mutant teenagers.

 

[Marvel united]

I think an older Beast would work great if they could make him an Avenger.

Wouldn't be the first time he was

I think Marvel will probably want to make Beast an Avenger/functioning member of the Illuminati. It's a significant part of his history that's never been explored.

I’d split the difference and have the X-Men be in their very early twenties. The oldest member (assuming they give Wolverine a breather) wouldn’t be older than 24.

I'd be fine with this. Assuming the X-Men formed when they were in their late teens, that gives them a good 4-5 years (2018-2022) on the younger students but not a ridiculous amount (like 15-20 years ). Again, this is what they were in Giant-Sized X-Men:



Perfectly acceptable starting point for the franchise.

 

[BoredGuy]

I personally would focus on Beast as an Avenger and less as an X-man.

I personally wouldn't focus on Beast at all. lol
He's been such a schmuck in the comics the past few years, I just can't with him

IMO, the X-Men should be adults. New Mutants is the super hero team with mutant teenagers.

If I had my way about it, I'd do ya one further and say the X-Men should be young-ish adults, New Mutants college age, Gen X can be 16-ish, and then a few New/Young/WaTXM characters can be just discovering their powers

 

[LightDaggers]

I consider Asa Butterfield a leading contender for Cyclops. He was a frontrunner for Spiderman, but his height, talent, and age will fit for Cyclops.

I mean, Enders Game showcases how great he can play a leader.

I like Asa, but I'm not sure about Asa for Cyclops. He seems a little too awkward.