Men In Black: International

[TheVileOne]

The scripts for In the Heart of the Sea and Black Hat say otherwise.

 

[jmc]

Not seen the film nor do I intend to any time soon, but there was clearly no desire for this type of Men in Black movie without Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones. It's very reminiscent of the Ghostbusters debacle. I don't know when these people running these studios are going to learn that sometimes you're better off letting the past be the past and that you'll never recapture what made these originals films successful in the first place. Just because you have the rights to the Men in Black brand doesn't mean people actually give a damn about seeing it again. Any basic research should have showed there wasn't a market for a MiB movie without Will Smith.

 

[TheVileOne]

Not seen the film nor do I intend to any time soon, but there was clearly no desire for this type of Men in Black movie without Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones. It's very reminiscent of the Ghostbusters debacle. I don't know when these people running these studios are going to learn that sometimes you're better off letting the past be the past and that you'll never recapture what made these originals films successful in the first place. Just because you have the rights to the Men in Black brand doesn't mean people actually give a damn about seeing it again. Any basic research should have showed there wasn't a market for a MiB movie without Will Smith.

There wasn't much of a market for these films when Will Smith was around for the last 2.

 

[jmc]

Exactly. So why on earth they think Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson would woo people in is beyond me. In fact, I'm starting to wonder if being part of the MCU is actually all it's cracked up to be for these actors. I can't recall any MCU actor being in a hit film after joining the franchise.

 

[Holiday]

The scripts for In the Heart of the Sea and Black Hat say otherwise.

I've been think of watching Black Hat just because it's Michael Mann but I've always thought Hemsworth as a hacker was far fetched, plus the poor reviews.

 

[TheVileOne]

I've been think of watching Black Hat just because it's Michael Mann but I've always thought Hemsworth as a hacker was far fetched, plus the poor reviews.

IMHO wasn't so much that it was far fetched so much as a bad story and a bad script with bad dialogue and poorly defined characters.

 

[terry78]

 

[Holiday]

IMHO wasn't so much that it was far fetched so much as a bad story and a bad script with bad dialogue and poorly defined characters.

Reading that has me even more curious to watch it.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

MIB23 doesn’t look like a bad idea now

I’m fully open to this idea now.

 

[-JKR-]

Man that article went after just one person.

Well, to be fair, if that's how things went down, he deserves it.

 

[B]

Casino Royale featured Judi Dench returning as M. Was it a reboot or a continuation of Die Another Day?

As I said, you can get away with maybe a couple of supporting cast members reprising certain 'smaller' roles if you really must & maintain it's still a reboot, but you cannot do it with the lead, Brosnan for example couldn't have returned.

 

[DarkKnight88]

There wasn't much of a market for these films when Will Smith was around for the last 2.

600M for the third isn’t a market?

 

[TheVileOne]

600M for the third isn’t a market?

The third movie cost the studio about $400 million, and it only made $179 million domestic. So no.

 

[DarkKnight88]

The third movie cost the studio about $400 million, and it only made $179 million domestic. So no.

Whatever the movie cost is the studios problem, but the money it did make shows there’s an audience out there for it, at least when Will Smith was a part of it.

Then again, he helped Aladdin get to 800M.

 

[TheVileOne]

Whatever the movie cost is the studios problem, but the money it did make shows there’s an audience out there for it, at least when Will Smith was a part of it.

Then again, he helped Aladdin get to 800M.

Outside the US maybe.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Outside the US maybe.

Your original statement was there was no market. Outside the US counts as a market.

 

[TheVileOne]

Your original statement was there was no market. Outside the US counts as a market.

Well you got me there. The film still didn't do all that well and I find it hard to believe it made money.

 

[HopeOfTheFuture]

Could Liam Neeson be the secret villain in this one. He keeps pounding on "trust no one" etc

SPOILERS....







Ow yeah I was right!

 

[samsnee]

Everyone pretty much was after seeing the first trailer.

 

[samsnee]

Exactly. So why on earth they think Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson would woo people in is beyond me. In fact, I'm starting to wonder if being part of the MCU is actually all it's cracked up to be for these actors. I can't recall any MCU actor being in a hit film after joining the franchise.

ScarJo is the only one who's really had fairly consistent box office results in roles outside of the MCU. Her only real bomb was Ghost in the Shell.

 

[Filmfreak]

Scarlett hasn't played in any other blockbuster movie outside Ghost in the Shell, though. Only Jungle Book if one counts the minor (voice acting) part she had. Chris Pratt had the most success with the two Jurassic World movies. Despite of the quality of those films, there were humongous box office hits.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Downey had both Sherlocks, Tropic Thunder which included an Oscar nomination and Due Date. We’ll see how Doctor Doolittle does, I guess.

But to be fair, he’s already had a pretty great career before the MCU. Before the drugs at least.

 

[terry78]

Truth be told, most of them have only done like smaller indie things or cameos as opposed to starring in massive blockbusters that have been box office successes. When you're in the MCU you can afford to just do smaller **** on occasion.

 

[Ninjablade]

Decided to watch this on a whim. The trailers sold exactly what this movie was: bland and forgettable.

 

[Deck Rickard]

This movie might have been more successful if Chris Hemsworth had performed a rap song to accompany it.