Mission: Impossible - Fallout - Part 1

[TheVileOne]

Much like movie posters and opening credits Elaysis, high quality scores are becoming a dying art.

 

[Elayis]

There are still great scores being made, and lots of new, interesting composers, but studios rarely give them a chance. They tend to go with the usual suspects, which is usually the same five people getting almost all of the jobs. Thanks god we still have John Williams.

It's just disappointing when actual film scores sound like trailer music, going for loud and "epic" almost nonstop, with no sense of pacing or an organic narrative.

 

[TheVileOne]

My problem is that the lacking in epic themes.

Justice League's music was terrible despite having Danny Elfman in there.

 

[Deck Rickard]

That's because they brought him in at the last minute and just asked him to slap together a score in a weekend.

 

[Elayis]

Yeah, it was definitely a rush job. He had no time to plan out themes or a sound palette, and the cut he was scoring to wasn't even finished, and used storyboards instead of filmed footage with the actors. And that's not even mentioning the horrible mixing job in the final film, which at times completely drowns out the music.

 

[samsnee]

I really wish this movie was coming out this weekend instead of Equalizer 2. The initial critic hype makes it seem unfair we have to wait another long week.

 

[James T. Kirk]

Anyone here a fan of the original TV series?

 

[samsnee]

I didn’t see the original as I wasn’t alive then but I did enjoy the reboot in the 80s

 

[Deck Rickard]

Yeah I watched the revival series in the 80s but the original show was before my time and unlike some shows of that era, it didn’t get a lot of reruns that I remember.

 

[James T. Kirk]

It's available on DVD.

 

[Mysteryman]

Anyone here a fan of the original TV series?

Absolutely.
If you can find it, I would recommend picking up The Complete Mission Impossible Dossier by Patrick J. White.
Great Book.

 

[James T. Kirk]

Absolutely.
If you can find it, I would recommend picking up The Complete Mission Impossible Dossier by Patrick J. White.
Great Book.

Thanks!


https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Mission-Impossible-Dossier/dp/0380758776

 

[samsnee]

Maybe that’s why I wasn’t offended they made Jim Phelps a bad guy in the first movie. I liked him in the 80s series but didn’t really get too attached. Plus it wasn’t the same actor so in my mind it was a Jim Phelps from a different universe.

 

[James T. Kirk]

Maybe that’s why I wasn’t offended they made Jim Phelps a bad guy in the first movie. I liked him in the 80s series but didn’t really get too attached. Plus it wasn’t the same actor so in my mind it was a Jim Phelps from a different universe.

I think the movies are meant to be set in a different universe. The Syndicate was introduced in one of them as if it was brand new but it used to pop up in several episodes of the TV series.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Maybe that’s why I wasn’t offended they made Jim Phelps a bad guy in the first movie. I liked him in the 80s series but didn’t really get too attached. Plus it wasn’t the same actor so in my mind it was a Jim Phelps from a different universe.

Yeah, same here. I didn’t mind Phelps being the bad guy because I had no real attachment to him. Plus “Ethan Hunt” is a much cooler name than “Jim Phelps”, lol.

 

[samsnee]

I think the movies are meant to be set in a different universe. The Syndicate was introduced in one of them as if it was brand new but it used to pop up in several episodes of the TV series.

They are now. But for the first movie, I believe they tried to get Peter Graves but he said no based on them making him a traitor. So at the time, it was meant to be the same universe.

 

[James T. Kirk]

They are now. But for the first movie, I believe they tried to get Peter Graves but he said no based on them making him a traitor. So at the time, it was meant to be the same universe.

Can't say I blame him.

 

[Mysteryman]

Maybe that’s why I wasn’t offended they made Jim Phelps a bad guy in the first movie. I liked him in the 80s series but didn’t really get too attached. Plus it wasn’t the same actor so in my mind it was a Jim Phelps from a different universe.

That is exactly how I see it.
If Star Trek's Mirror Universe had an evil doppleganger of Jim Phelps, it would be the Voight version.

 

[Mysteryman]

They are now. But for the first movie, I believe they tried to get Peter Graves but he said no based on them making him a traitor. So at the time, it was meant to be the same universe.

Even if Graves had appeared, it still would have been Mirror Phelps to me.

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

MI2 was the only Mission Impossible I could sit through from start to finish.

 

[Mysteryman]

MI2 was the only Mission Impossible I could sit through from start to finish.

I know that MI II has its fans.
And it does have it's moments.
But for me, it is the weakest entry in the franchise by far.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Oh, it’s definitely hands down the worst. Regardless of the ironic reappraisal it’s getting.

 

[James T. Kirk]

That is exactly how I see it.
If Star Trek's Mirror Universe had an evil doppleganger of Jim Phelps, it would be the Voight version.

 

[Aximili86]

Psh. MI:2's a hell of a John Woo movie. Just not a great MI movie.

Still a friggin' blast. Silly Australian accents, crazy photography, action scenes up among the most gritty the series has to offer.

 

[Deck Rickard]

MI:2 has grown on me but I don't even think it's one of John Woo's best, to be honest.