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[spideyboy_1111]

Oh, yeah-like there's gonna be a monument to Spider-Man one day. And if there were, would it make him feel better if it cost the lives of Aunt May & MJ.
Not buying it. Sorry.

they dont want praise for him.. they want respect.. theres a big difference. there willing to take the risk.. either way they'd be hiding in fear... if anything they've learned that villains who know hes parker attack.. villains who dont know.. but know they have a connection (wich most do) will attack (as seen with may's house being burned down.. and peter and mj's apartment), and even no spidey connection at all (MJ and her SEVERAL stalkers) there life is in danger no matter what.. they'd rather not live in fear.. and face it... and there doing just that

 

[Chris Wallace]

One way they can walk down the street w/o being harassed; the other way they can't. They are STILL living in fear but now it's worse.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I already said this in another thread but what happens when CW is over? When Pete's no longer an Avenger-and he can't get a job because employers don't want Doc Ock showing up in their office & killing everybody? When landlords don't wanna rent to them for fear of pumpkin bomb damage? When MJ can't find work because the casting director is afraid Electro will blow up the theatre on opening night? When he can't turn to his fellow heroes for help because he betrayed them? When nobody wants to befriend them because they believe what the Bugle says? When all the great storytelling opportunities that depended on him having a secret identity are no longer an option? There has been some fin to be had since the unmasking, sure, but it's all centered on the negative repurcussions of his going public. What are they gonna do 10 years from now? Remember, a key part of Spider-Man's appeal has always been that he's the underdog hero. Or are they gonna abandon that too & make him the celebrated champion of the people like Superman?
Marvel really didn't think about the long run on this one.

 

[Arach Knight]

Spider-Man has been quite the roller coaster ride ever since JMS took over some few years ago. I can't say that I entirely dislike the series of events that have happened to Spidey...but some of the end results are just plain horrible. Once again, Marvel and specifically Spider-Man (my favorite hero) are the reason I briefly stopped reading comic books again. Spider-Man shouldn't be so emo...he shouldn't have stingers (because Spiders don't freaking have stingers) and he shouldn't be resurrected by spider-gods.

There was a time where Spider-Man was an over confident show off that got the job done. He had everyman troubles and the compassion to battle in the face of serious adversity. Now, much of that legacy has been crippled by turning him into something far and away from Stan Lee and Steve Ditko's original creation. Unmasking Spidey however, was the straw that broke the camels back. Superman doesn't even wear a mask, and DC never fully violated his dual identity (to my knowledge). Marvel however, is quick to jump on the shock value bandwagon, and will thus result to anything, for the sake of a read.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

One way they can walk down the street w/o being harassed; the other way they can't. They are STILL living in fear but now it's worse.

ok.. well for one.. Aunt May's face hasn't been all over the news.. and majority of people can't tell one ederly woman from another.. plus she rarely seems to leave the Avenger's tower anyway... plus... if jarvis can leave the tower.. and not be in any danger.. then im sure aunt may and Mj are in the same boat... MJ on the other hand has a hard time walkin down the street anyway due to he celebrity status. It's worse to you.. and ya peter would proabably worry more.. but aunt may and MJ arnt... and it was there decision as well.. i see nothing wrong with that

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Spider-Man has been quite the roller coaster ride ever since JMS took over some few years ago. I can't say that I entirely dislike the series of events that have happened to Spidey...but some of the end results are just plain horrible. Once again, Marvel and specifically Spider-Man (my favorite hero) are the reason I briefly stopped reading comic books again. Spider-Man shouldn't be so emo...he shouldn't have stingers (because Spiders don't freaking have stingers) and he shouldn't be resurrected by spider-gods.

There was a time where Spider-Man was an over confident show off that got the job done. He had everyman troubles and the compassion to battle in the face of serious adversity. Now, much of that legacy has been crippled by turning him into something far and away from Stan Lee and Steve Ditko's original creation. Unmasking Spidey however, was the straw that broke the camels back. Superman doesn't even wear a mask, and DC never fully violated his dual identity (to my knowledge). Marvel however, is quick to jump on the shock value bandwagon, and will thus result to anything, for the sake of a read.

ummmm spidey hasnt been depicted in the comics recently as emo... so not sure if you confused the comics and movie or what

 

[Chris Wallace]

There was a time where Spider-Man was an over confident show off that got the job done. He had everyman troubles and the compassion to battle in the face of serious adversity. Now, much of that legacy has been crippled by turning him into something far and away from Stan Lee and Steve Ditko's original creation. Unmasking Spidey however, was the straw that broke the camels back. Superman doesn't even wear a mask, and DC never fully violated his dual identity (to my knowledge). Marvel however, is quick to jump on the shock value bandwagon, and will thus result to anything, for the sake of a read.

This is what I'm saying.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I already said this in another thread but what happens when CW is over? When Pete's no longer an Avenger-and he can't get a job because employers don't want Doc Ock showing up in their office & killing everybody? When landlords don't wanna rent to them for fear of pumpkin bomb damage? When MJ can't find work because the casting director is afraid Electro will blow up the theatre on opening night? When he can't turn to his fellow heroes for help because he betrayed them? When nobody wants to befriend them because they believe what the Bugle says? When all the great storytelling opportunities that depended on him having a secret identity are no longer an option? There has been some fin to be had since the unmasking, sure, but it's all centered on the negative repurcussions of his going public. What are they gonna do 10 years from now? Remember, a key part of Spider-Man's appeal has always been that he's the underdog hero. Or are they gonna abandon that too & make him the celebrated champion of the people like Superman?
Marvel really didn't think about the long run on this one.

well thats what were going to find out.. im sure parker could always get a job working for Pym or Reed.. and any publicity is a good thing, so im sure MJ would have NO problem getting jobs.. infact she'd probably get more

 

[Chris Wallace]

The Marvel Universe is one full of fear & distrust-if it weren't the SHRA would've never been introduced in the first place. And that's what would keep MJ from finding work. AS for Reed & Pym, he'll have betrayed them too.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

The Marvel Universe is one full of fear & distrust-if it weren't the SHRA would've never been introduced in the first place. And that's what would keep MJ from finding work. AS for Reed & Pym, he'll have betrayed them too.

maybe so.. but in 10 years everyone would have kissed and made up..

and again.. i still think MJ would find work. plus regardless.. there lots of people that are willing to take risks to hire a extremely intelligent person.. and a Model/Actress who's married to a superhero... regardless of the danger.

not to mention... do we see She-Hulk? get attacked at home all the time? no..... theres plenty of other superheroes whos identities are in the public eye.. and plenty of them who have loved ones.. and there not attacked at home or love ones killed.

and again.. either way.. it was there decision.. whether you would do it or not.. is pointless.. but Aunt may's reasoning for supporting peter was very VERY much in character for her... and it was very much in character of peter to listen. So nothing i find wrong with that at all

 

[Chris Wallace]

That argument would fly if not for the fact that 1-Spidey has been attacked through his loved ones in the past & they are not going to stop, & 2-the other heroes don't really have civilian lives.
And I'm not saying whether or not I would do it. I'm arguing that the Peter Parker I grew up on wouldn't do it.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

That argument would fly if not for the fact that 1-Spidey has been attacked through his loved one sin the past & they are not going to stop, & 2-the other heroes don't really have civilian lives.
And I'm not saying whether or not I woudl do it. I'm arguing that the Peter Parker I grew up on wouldn't do it.

"That argument would fly if not for the fact that 1-Spidey has been attacked through his loved one sin the past & they are not going to stop," - what does this mean? speak correctly please...

and 2.. yes many dont... but there are still many that due.. like i said.. she-hulk

and how old are you? because peter has evolved alot from the stan lee/ditko age... but his morals still remain.. and even now that hasn't changed... he was willing to go into hiding if aunt may and mj didn't want him revealing himself...

plus like i said countless times MJ AND AUNT MAY WOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AS WELL! FOR BEING ACCOMPLICES so really they didn't have much of a choice..

 

[Citizen_Kaine]

 

[Arach Knight]

Both of my responses here are to you, Spider-Boy 1111

1)Peter is pretty emo/whiney when compared to his old self. He has always been some what self doubting at times, but never has he been so down and out. You may be thinking of Spider-Man himself, who is always sarcastic and jovial. But I am refering to Peter himself. Even after he got back together with MJ, it just seemed like all he did was complain. The only time, in recent years, that Spider-Man books were like they should be, was during the initial run with JMS (Book of Ezikiel days). Those stories seemed more like classic Spider-Man. And it wasn't because he was seperated from MJ.

2)You know why She-Hulk doesn't get attacked at home? Because she's the freaking She-Hulk. Her powers are a far fetch from Spidey's, on the scale of things. Doc Ock would have a hell of a time trying to battle She-Hulk, as opposed to Spidey. If anything, Civil War should be the prime example of what happens when people know your identity. I could have sworn that Johnny Storm caught a beer bottle over the cranium, thus inducing a coma. Yep...nothing better than everybody knowing that you have powers. Haven't the X-Men been getting hell on a regular basis because of their lack of secret identities? That is the entire skew of the Marvel universe, compared to the DC universe. Humans in the Marvel unverse, do not trust most beings of power. Even the good ones. Just as mutants get persecuted for their gifts, now every Marvel metahuman is on the receiving end of anger. Be it villains who have vendettas or humans who fear those different from themselves. Time and time again, the Marvel universe has proven what happens to most people that expose themselves publicly.

 

[3dman27]

Both of my responses here are to you, Spider-Boy 1111

1)Peter is pretty emo/whiney when compared to his old self. He has always been some what self doubting at times, but never has he been so down and out. You may be thinking of Spider-Man himself, who is always sarcastic and jovial. But I am refering to Peter himself. Even after he got back together with MJ, it just seemed like all he did was complain. The only time, in recent years, that Spider-Man books were like they should be, was during the initial run with JMS (Book of Ezikiel days). Those stories seemed more like classic Spider-Man. And it wasn't because he was seperated from MJ.

2)You know why She-Hulk doesn't get attacked at home? Because she's the freaking She-Hulk. Her powers are a far fetch from Spidey's, on the scale of things. Doc Ock would have a hell of a time trying to battle She-Hulk, as opposed to Spidey. If anything, Civil War should be the prime example of what happens when people know your identity. I could have sworn that Johnny Storm caught a beer bottle over the cranium, thus inducing a coma. Yep...nothing better than everybody knowing that you have powers. Haven't the X-Men been getting hell on a regular basis because of their lack of secret identities? That is the entire skew of the Marvel universe, compared to the DC universe. Humans in the Marvel unverse, do not trust most beings of power. Even the good ones. Just as mutants get persecuted for their gifts, now every Marvel metahuman is on the receiving end of anger. Be it villains who have vendettas or humans who fear those different from themselves. Time and time again, the Marvel universe has proven what happens to most people that expose themselves publicly.

unfortunately thts true

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Both of my responses here are to you, Spider-Boy 1111

1)Peter is pretty emo/whiney when compared to his old self. He has always been some what self doubting at times, but never has he been so down and out. You may be thinking of Spider-Man himself, who is always sarcastic and jovial. But I am refering to Peter himself. Even after he got back together with MJ, it just seemed like all he did was complain. The only time, in recent years, that Spider-Man books were like they should be, was during the initial run with JMS (Book of Ezikiel days). Those stories seemed more like classic Spider-Man. And it wasn't because he was seperated from MJ.

as far as im concerned from what you say peter has always been emo... ever since gwen died anyway...

2)You know why She-Hulk doesn't get attacked at home? Because she's the freaking She-Hulk. Her powers are a far fetch from Spidey's, on the scale of things. Doc Ock would have a hell of a time trying to battle She-Hulk, as opposed to Spidey. If anything, Civil War should be the prime example of what happens when people know your identity. I could have sworn that Johnny Storm caught a beer bottle over the cranium, thus inducing a coma. Yep...nothing better than everybody knowing that you have powers. Haven't the X-Men been getting hell on a regular basis because of their lack of secret identities? That is the entire skew of the Marvel universe, compared to the DC universe. Humans in the Marvel unverse, do not trust most beings of power. Even the good ones. Just as mutants get persecuted for their gifts, now every Marvel metahuman is on the receiving end of anger. Be it villains who have vendettas or humans who fear those different from themselves. Time and time again, the Marvel universe has proven what happens to most people that expose themselves publicly.

this is all becasue of the negative publicity at the moment.. the fantastic 4 have NEVER had secret identities.. just some right wing bozo hit johnny over the head, the same blatent ignorant kinda person who'd attempt to mow down a muslim after 9/11 just because of who they were. also the X-men to my recolection are not getting hell at all over secret identities.. they've never had much of a personal life anyways considering majority of them grew up at the school and decided to stay there.

-spideyboy-

 

[Dangerous]

Spider-Man has been quite the roller coaster ride ever since JMS took over some few years ago. I can't say that I entirely dislike the series of events that have happened to Spidey...but some of the end results are just plain horrible. Once again, Marvel and specifically Spider-Man (my favorite hero) are the reason I briefly stopped reading comic books again. Spider-Man shouldn't be so emo...he shouldn't have stingers (because Spiders don't freaking have stingers) and he shouldn't be resurrected by spider-gods.

There was a time where Spider-Man was an over confident show off that got the job done. He had everyman troubles and the compassion to battle in the face of serious adversity. Now, much of that legacy has been crippled by turning him into something far and away from Stan Lee and Steve Ditko's original creation. Unmasking Spidey however, was the straw that broke the camels back. Superman doesn't even wear a mask, and DC never fully violated his dual identity (to my knowledge). Marvel however, is quick to jump on the shock value bandwagon, and will thus result to anything, for the sake of a read.

Uh-huh. I agree w/ you.
Some people here though seem happy to eat what ever s-hit Marvel feeds them, and can find a way to justify it.
You got it right about SM now being turned into something far away from the original Lee/Ditko creation. The secret ID was a defining trait of what made him Spidey. Without it he ceases to be as interesting a character if everyone just knows who he is. Also it SM would never unmask because of the stuff that happened in the past to MJ w/ Venom and May w/ GG.
He would have to be a complete ******, or the writer would.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Uh-huh. I agree w/ you.
Some people here though seem happy to eat what ever s-hit Marvel feeds them, and can find a way to justify it.
You got it right about SM now being turned into something far away from the original Lee/Ditko creation. The secret ID was a defining trait of what made him Spidey. Without it he ceases to be as interesting a character if everyone just knows who he is. Also it SM would never unmask because of the stuff that happened in the past to MJ w/ Venom and May w/ GG.
He would have to be a complete ******, or the writer would.

You do know that the Lee/Ditko Creation was also 15 years old... and hes now roughly 29... hes grown up.. people change when they grow up, he hasnt been the same lee/ditko spidey for over 20 years.. get over it

and 2nd his identitiy being a secret makes spidey who he is? garbage. sounds like you don't know the character at all.. his heart makes the man.. not his secret. As well as his morals.. yes some say its bending his morals for him to out himself.. but again HE FRIGGIN TALKED TO AUNT MAY AND MJ ABOUT IT! he was all but willing to go on the run for there sake... and i love how everyone seem to ignore that fact when ive specificly explained why mj and may would agree to it... wouldnt it be more unlike peter to not listen to his aunt and wife and completely do what he felt was right over what they felt? Also again an ignored fact is if Peter didn't out himself.. MJ and May would be arrested as accomplices.. wich they even again talked about. there ENTIRE life would be destroyed for the simple fact that they would be viewed as betrayers of there country... not to mention one simple fact that, do you really honestly think if he didnt unmask himself.. that tony wouldnt of outted him anyway? he built his friggin suit and his suit is friggin bugged.

 

[Arach Knight]

The number of Spidey fans who find the unmasking and handling of the character, to be unfavorable, seems to out number those who don't. That doesn't make any one opinion more valid, but it does convey the mood of the general masses. If you go back even to the late 80's/early 90's, Spidey was a lot closer to the Lee/Ditko concpetion, than he is now. Remember when Spider-Man actually had a cast? I'm just old enough (23) to remember reading the books where he still had a supporting cast. Remember when everybody thought Ned Leeds was The Hobgoblin, and both he and Peter were competitors in the news industry as well as in costume? Remember when Debbie stated to like Peter? Remember when Felcia and Flash were dating, and hung around Pete and the gang (Though to it's credit, Spectacular Spider-Man with Paul Jenkins, did attempt to bring back that element)?

Those are the old days that even I can remember reading about. That is what Spider-Man was about. Stan Lee phrased it as "a soap opera that sometimes had a fight in it." That was the formula that helped make Spidey's stories so lovely. Then they had to throw in clones. When they recovered from that, they just decided to start abandoning the things that made the character so enjoyable. Spidey shed his skin in The Other, storyline...and it seems reflective of the state of the books, because they are also an empty husk of their former self.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

The number of Spidey fans who find the unmasking and handling of the character, to be unfavorable, seems to out number those who don't. That doesn't make any one opinion more valid, but it does convey the mood of the general masses. If you go back even to the late 80's/early 90's, Spidey was a lot closer to the Lee/Ditko concpetion, than he is now. Remember when Spider-Man actually had a cast? I'm just old enough (23) to remember reading the books where he still had a supporting cast. Remember when everybody thought Ned Leeds was The Hobgoblin, and both he and Peter were competitors in the news industry as well as in costume? Remember when Debbie stated to like Peter? Remember when Felcia and Flash were dating, and hung around Pete and the gang (Though to it's credit, Spectacular Spider-Man with Paul Jenkins, did attempt to bring back that element)?

Those are the old days that even I can remember reading about. That is what Spider-Man was about. Stan Lee phrased it as "a soap opera that sometimes had a fight in it." That was the formula that helped make Spidey's stories so lovely. Then they had to throw in clones. When they recovered from that, they just decided to start abandoning the things that made the character so enjoyable. Spidey shed his skin in The Other, storyline...and it seems reflective of the state of the books, because they are also an empty husk of their former self.

The mass you hear about though is very much so biased in the fact that in life.. those who out dislike something tend to be MUCH more vocal about it then those who do like something... (X3 is a good example) imo unmasking is definately not a bad thing, just an interesting thing.. its not nearly as unforgiveable as sins past, or the other and his new powers.... yet people treat it as if it is..

and as for his other cast members.. i think all of use would agree we want his supporting cast back.. and the los of that is just due to bad writting... esp since even MJ and Aunt may are being written in even less and less then ever

 

[Arach Knight]

If you read my earlier statements, I did make vauge allusions to the fact that the unmasking isn't necessarily such a devilish act on its own...it's the fact that it follows years upon years of agonizing choices that have affected Spider-Man as a character, a series of books and a franchise. The list is long. One fun fact to know, is that I actually quit reading comic books for a good five years, because of Spider-Man getting so horrifically bad. Lets just look at the back log of crap that Marvel feeds its Spidey fans.

-Ben Reily turns out to be an amnesiatic Peter Parker, thus undermining over a decade of legacy, including the marraige to MJ and the symbiote story arc. Peter Parker, turned out to be the clone. Anybody born in the late 70's or 80's, had effectively been told that the Spider-Man they grew up with, was in fact, not Spider-Man. This retcon, was later retconned itself.

-Green Goblin was retconned from death, to being alive again.

-Aunt May was killed. Later retconned.

-Doc Ock died...later resurrected (might as well be a retcon)

-Symbiote orginally attatched to Brock, due to a mutual hatered of Parker. Later retconned so that Brock has cancer that over produces adrenaline, thus being the true reason that the symbiote bonded with Brock.

-Gwen Stacy originally murdered as an act of rage against Spider-Man. Retconned so that Gwen was murdered for taking Norman's mysteriously hidden children. Oh yeah, lets not forget the fact that Gwen went looking for the lay too. What's that? Lets piss all over the beautiful portrayal of Gwen's innocence in the Marvels limited series? Why not?

-Spider powers no longer accidentally gained by a per chance circumstance. Peter Parker was now chosen by fate and spider-gods, to be given his powers, even if in an accidental fashion (which completely rips off the entire Flash/Speed Force idea, in which all Flash's are chosen by the Speed Force, even if they obtain their powers in an accident. So much for "house of ideas" as an apt moniker).

-Organic webbing (which I do not dislike) only for the sake of making him like the movie character (which I do dislike).

-Powers that aren't even related to spiders. It was cool when he was Captain Universe. It's not cool when you say he is unleashing his "inner spider", because where he hell did they come up with stingers?

The list could go on and on...but unmasking is just the final act of aggression. The one thing you can say about DC, is that even though they are kings of retcon, at least things get back to normal rather quickly. Superman isn't electrically powered. Batman isn't an armor clad assassin nut job. Supergirl came back after being wiped from existence. Marvel doesn't even give us that much to work with. They just f**k up, admit they f***ed up, and keep f***ing up. Norman still lives. The powers are still out of whack. Gargan still has the suit, and Eddie may or may not be dead. And as lon as Quesada runs the show, I doubt any of it will change. If I catch an interesting arc again, I may pick up an occassional spider-book. But for now, i'm just left to the X-Men and the DCU.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Why you still complaining if you "supposedly" have quit reading for 5 years?

 

[Arach Knight]

I said it made me quit for five years. I did not mention when that five year period was. But I can estimate it to be from about 1997 until late 2002. (the last issue of Wizard I bought, when I stopped reading, and the first issue of Wizard that I bought when I returned to reading). And I am complaining, because that is the last thing left to me. I believe in full expression, so long as you take the according action. If you don't vote, don't complain about the elected officials. But if you did vote, and they are pissing you off, voice yourself. I'm no different about any such matters. In this case, I already "voted" with my dollars, as I haven't bought a Marvel book since Amazing #533 and Civil War # 2 (the unmasking issues of course). So that leads us to here. You disagreed with my opinion earlier, and I disagreed with that. So here we are. Two gentlemen that do not see eye to eye on a subject. Nobody has to see eye to eye, or even stop expressing their view point. But concession could be a favorable direction to take. And if not, that is also fine...

 

[spideyboy_1111]

wait wait wait.. why are you bringing wizard into this? did you read the issue with peter's reasoning to unmask?

and i love how everyone continues to ingore the fact that he was all but willing to go on the run for there sake... and wouldnt it be more unlike peter to not listen to his aunt and wife and completely do what he felt was right over what they felt? Also again an ignored fact is if Peter didn't out himself.. MJ and May would be arrested as accomplices.. wich they even again talked about. there ENTIRE life would be destroyed for the simple fact that they would be viewed as betrayers of there country... not to mention one simple fact that, do you really honestly think if he didnt unmask himself.. that tony wouldnt of outted him anyway? he built his friggin suit and his suit is friggin bugged.

 

[Dangerous]

You do know that the Lee/Ditko Creation was also 15 years old... and hes now roughly 29... hes grown up.. people change when they grow up, he hasnt been the same lee/ditko spidey for over 20 years.. get over it

15-29 years is not over 20 years last time I checked.
If you could count you would realise this, in SM time it is actually 14 years.
That’s if were going on the assumption that Spidey is now of this age.
One popular theory on this board is that 50 issues of ASM is equal to that of 1 616 year.
This would mean Peter is approaching 27 years of age.
Whatever the case it is not 20 years 616 time since the Lee/Ditko era, it is 10 years minimum 15 max.
Get it right dooder.

and 2nd his identitiy being a secret makes spidey who he is? garbage. sounds like you don't know the character at all.. his heart makes the man.. not his secret. As well as his morals..

His heart and his morals surely make up good portion of who Spider-man is, but so too does his secret identity. It has been a big part of his adult life and the only way he has been able to maintain a sense of normality amid all the chaos. His secret ID is basically the glue the keeps everything a float.
Joe Q and JMS are ignorant bastards who just think we should swallow whatever they do to SM as acceptable, but the fact is SM revealing his secret ID simply wouldn’t work because soon all his enemies would know about MJ/ May and would get to them eventually.

yes some say its bending his morals for him to out himself.. but again HE FRIGGIN TALKED TO AUNT MAY AND MJ ABOUT IT! he was all but willing to go on the run for there sake... and i love how everyone seem to ignore that fact when ive specificly explained why mj and may would agree to it... wouldnt it be more unlike peter to not listen to his aunt and wife and completely do what he felt was right over what they felt? Also again an ignored fact is if Peter didn't out himself..

I am not ignoring this, sure MJ and May said unmask, but see if you can get your tiny mind around this concept- SHOCK- JMS does not understand/care how to write these characters!!!’
After what has happened in the past to Aunt May- being captured by GG and kept alive as a prisoner sedated for months on end, and MJ having the s-hit scared outta her/fearing for her life by Venom, neither May nor MJ would want anymore of that.
They would not want to open the floodgates to even more danger.
It is pure BS and I do not buy it.
If you do that’s great for you.
I’m glad you are entertained reading ASM, I wish I could say I was.
But maybe you should go read your back issues and see if any of this makes sense?

MJ and May would be arrested as accomplices.. wich they even again talked about. there ENTIRE life would be destroyed for the simple fact that they would be viewed as betrayers of there country... not to mention one simple fact that, do you really honestly think if he didnt unmask himself.. that tony wouldnt of outted him anyway? he built his friggin suit and his suit is friggin bugged.

Who would have ousted May and MJ?! Do you think Stark would be that much of a cock after saying that he was their friend? MJ and May could have easily moved out into an apartment w/ MJ’s money and laid low, minded their own business. None of the Avengers would have hauled them in.
As for the suit, that’s just down to bad writing again.
Like I originally said when Stark first offered the suit to PP six or so (published) months ago, PP would have said- ‘Nice suit dude but it’s not really my style, think Il stick to the old red and blues.’
That’s just what Peter Parker would have said, JMS does not get SM anymore, he does not understand the character. Peter Parker now has a different personality.
If you knew SM comics, you would know this yourself.