Movie Stuff You Only Now Just Realized - Part 2

[DarkSovereignty]

I'm pretty sure Aerosmith sings EVERY song in that movie, the soundtrack consisted mainly of Aerosmith.

 

[jacobed]

Aerosmith agreed to the song because Liv Tyler is in it

 

[chamber-music]

I've seen Lawrence of Arabia probably 20 times and I just realized David's "Big Things Have Small Beginnings" was an intentional direct quote from it in Prometheus.

David was watching Lawrence of Arabia during the trip to LV-223 and I think we even hear the line ( not sure ).

And David fixes his hair like Lawrence's hair was in Lawrence of Arabia and recites some lines while everyone is still in stasis.

His creator Peter Weyland is a fan of T.E Lawerence as well as he talks about him in his TED speech.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

This.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

This.

I've always loved that Scar easter egg in Hercules, but I never made the connection to that line.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

My question is why did the crowd give them applause after the whole bridge mess. If the X-Men did the exact same thing, they'd get rocks and bottles thrown at their heads.

That's the point. The X-Men are mutants and as a result are pretty much hated by society.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I've always loved that Scar easter egg in Hercules, but I never made the connection to that line.

Same here. I knew the easter egg, but I didn't put two and two together.

 

[Jordacar]

That's the point. The X-Men are mutants and as a result are pretty much hated by society.

And how did the crowd know that they weren't mutants?

 

[DarkSovereignty]

'cause they hadn't established the joint universe yet, gaawwwdd.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

And how did the crowd know that they weren't mutants?

Because the X-men didn't exist in the same universe. Plus, it's pretty much the same deal as in the comics.

 

[redhawk23]

Because the X-men didn't exist in the same universe. Plus, it's pretty much the same deal as in the comics.

Its ridiculous in the comics too. In fact especially so, that super powered people are looked upon as heroes but then mutants specifically face prejudice.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

yeah, if anything the fantastic four would be thrown in quarantine by the CDC. I mean come on, four people come down with mutations after being exposed to space radiation?

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Its ridiculous in the comics too. In fact especially so, that super powered people are looked upon as heroes but then mutants specifically face prejudice.

I agree. I love the X-men but that aspect has always seemed strange to me. Captain America, Hulk, Spider-Man, etc. were mutated. I guess it's because mutants were actually born with the x-gene and the others were humans before their procedures/accidents. Still not too fond of it though.

yeah, if anything the fantastic four would be thrown in quarantine by the CDC. I mean come on, four people come down with mutations after being exposed to space radiation?

Yeah, definitely.

 

[Ipodman]

This.

I've always loved that Scar easter egg in Hercules, but I never made the connection to that line.

I admit I've never known of this easter egg... the only one I know is sex in the clouds t:

 

[747]

Its ridiculous in the comics too. In fact especially so, that super powered people are looked upon as heroes but then mutants specifically face prejudice.

It's no more ridiculous than prejudice and bigotry itself, which is the point. It has to do with several things why mutants are feared and hated more in general than other heroes. It's not a black and white issue, not every mutant is hated by everyone, it's about context.

First of all the amount of mutants compared to the superheros, also add to that, there is only one Spider-Man, only one Iron Man and so on, the reasons to their powers are quite unique in the Marvel Universe and are more based on extremely special circumstances. While new mutants are probably born everyday, which adds to the fear that they could be anyone on the street cause most of them look normal. And for those who doesn't look normal, there is of course the freak thing that people fear and get put off/intimidated by. X-Men covers al lot of ground in their metaphorical use.

Another reason is that mutants are the next step in the evolution, humans fear that mutants will take over, or they fear that their future kids will be mutants and/or outcasts.

And it's not like the mutant hate boils down to everyone hating every single mutant. It's probably more the concept of it all, and wanting it under control. It's why some people can accept let's say Beast as an Avenger or as a politician and still be wary of the growing mutant influence in the world.

And it's not like other different and super-powered beings in Marvel Universe haven't met their fair share of bigotry, misunderstanding and fear (The Thing in FF as an example). And during the Days of Future Past story-line, in the future the Sentinels started to kill not only mutants but other superheroes too, because they saw them as similar threaths.

So often mutants gets to be the group that is easy to blame things on in debates and such. Charles chooses to take in those that might need guidance or feel lost, they choose to be the outcast superhero-team. That way they can represent something else than let's say the more up-front and government controlled The Avengers.

In other words, the X-Men and mutants, just like they were created to be a metaphor for outcasts/being different and to highlight the bigotry and hate in our world, they also choose to represent that in the stories.

It's also kind of like let's say compare, how people think it's cool with paralympics and cheer on their "heroes", while in real life when faced with both mentally and physically handicapped people, they often react with fear, taking distance and such. I experience this in my job, everyday. An this is just one of many interesting real-world analogies that you can use based on the mutants/X-Men. That's why they are such a cool, important and fantastic idea/concept to begin with.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Great post.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Woody Harrelson's character loves Bill Murray in Zombieland, but the two had already worked together in Kingpin. How did I forget?

 

[redhawk23]

It's no more ridiculous than prejudice and bigotry itself, which is the point. It has to do with several things why mutants are feared and hated more in general than other heroes. It's not a black and white issue, not every mutant is hated by everyone, it's about context.

First of all the amount of mutants compared to the superheros, also add to that, there is only one Spider-Man, only one Iron Man and so on, the reasons to their powers are quite unique in the Marvel Universe and are more based on extremely special circumstances. While new mutants are probably born everyday, which adds to the fear that they could be anyone on the street cause most of them look normal. And for those who doesn't look normal, there is of course the freak thing that people fear and get put off/intimidated by. X-Men covers al lot of ground in their metaphorical use.

Another reason is that mutants are the next step in the evolution, humans fear that mutants will take over, or they fear that their future kids will be mutants and/or outcasts.

And it's not like the mutant hate boils down to everyone hating every single mutant. It's probably more the concept of it all, and wanting it under control. It's why some people can accept let's say Beast as an Avenger or as a politician and still be wary of the growing mutant influence in the world.

And it's not like other different and super-powered beings in Marvel Universe haven't met their fair share of bigotry, misunderstanding and fear (The Thing in FF as an example). And during the Days of Future Past story-line, in the future the Sentinels started to kill not only mutants but other superheroes too, because they saw them as similar threaths.

So often mutants gets to be the group that is easy to blame things on in debates and such. Charles chooses to take in those that might need guidance or feel lost, they choose to be the outcast superhero-team. That way they can represent something else than let's say the more up-front and government controlled The Avengers.

In other words, the X-Men and mutants, just like they were created to be a metaphor for outcasts/being different and to highlight the bigotry and hate in our world, they also choose to represent that in the stories.

It's also kind of like let's say compare, how people think it's cool with paralympics and cheer on their "heroes", while in real life when faced with both mentally and physically handicapped people, they often react with fear, taking distance and such. I experience this in my job, everyday. An this is just one of many interesting real-world analogies that you can use based on the mutants/X-Men. That's why they are such a cool, important and fantastic idea/concept to begin with.

Oh I understand the thematic importance of the X-men, but I've also felt that series is more hindered than helped by being part of the shared Marvel universe. They certainly have enough characters and series specific politics and challenges that having the added possibility of a Spiderman crossover is kind of pointless.

 

[redhawk23]

Woody Harrelson's character loves Bill Murray in Zombieland, but the two had already worked together in Kingpin. How did I forget?

Originally, the cameo was planned to be Matthew Mcconaughey, I'm glad that things worked out the way they did.

 

[DyeLorean]

Woody Harrelson's character loves Bill Murray in Zombieland, but the two had already worked together in Kingpin. How did I forget?

Wow, you're right. I totally forgot that.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Originally, the cameo was planned to be Matthew Mcconaughey, I'm glad that things worked out the way they did.

If that had been the case, I'd have been counting the minutes 'till he got shot.

 

[roach]

It's no more ridiculous than prejudice and bigotry itself, which is the point. It has to do with several things why mutants are feared and hated more in general than other heroes. It's not a black and white issue, not every mutant is hated by everyone, it's about context.

First of all the amount of mutants compared to the superheros, also add to that, there is only one Spider-Man, only one Iron Man and so on, the reasons to their powers are quite unique in the Marvel Universe and are more based on extremely special circumstances. While new mutants are probably born everyday, which adds to the fear that they could be anyone on the street cause most of them look normal. And for those who doesn't look normal, there is of course the freak thing that people fear and get put off/intimidated by. X-Men covers al lot of ground in their metaphorical use.

Another reason is that mutants are the next step in the evolution, humans fear that mutants will take over, or they fear that their future kids will be mutants and/or outcasts.

And it's not like the mutant hate boils down to everyone hating every single mutant. It's probably more the concept of it all, and wanting it under control. It's why some people can accept let's say Beast as an Avenger or as a politician and still be wary of the growing mutant influence in the world.

And it's not like other different and super-powered beings in Marvel Universe haven't met their fair share of bigotry, misunderstanding and fear (The Thing in FF as an example). And during the Days of Future Past story-line, in the future the Sentinels started to kill not only mutants but other superheroes too, because they saw them as similar threaths.

So often mutants gets to be the group that is easy to blame things on in debates and such. Charles chooses to take in those that might need guidance or feel lost, they choose to be the outcast superhero-team. That way they can represent something else than let's say the more up-front and government controlled The Avengers.

In other words, the X-Men and mutants, just like they were created to be a metaphor for outcasts/being different and to highlight the bigotry and hate in our world, they also choose to represent that in the stories.

It's also kind of like let's say compare, how people think it's cool with paralympics and cheer on their "heroes", while in real life when faced with both mentally and physically handicapped people, they often react with fear, taking distance and such. I experience this in my job, everyday. An this is just one of many interesting real-world analogies that you can use based on the mutants/X-Men. That's why they are such a cool, important and fantastic idea/concept to begin with.

Because mutantkind is the next evolutionary step....which means humanity is already a dead end. Spider-man and his decendants are not destined to kill off humanity and take over the world.

 

[Balthus Dire]

Originally, the cameo was planned to be Matthew Mcconaughey, I'm glad that things worked out the way they did.

Really? I thought it was supposed to be Patrick Swayze but then he got sick?

 

[Spider-Fan83]

Woody Harrelson's character loves Bill Murray in Zombieland, but the two had already worked together in Kingpin. How did I forget?

an Ironically his character hated Bill Murray's in kingpin

Originally, the cameo was planned to be Matthew Mcconaughey, I'm glad that things worked out the way they did.

I don't see how that would've been an interesting or funny cameo

I know they've worked together before, even played bothers in EDtv... was that suppose to be the in side joke or something

 

[corby]

Really? I thought it was supposed to be Patrick Swayze but then he got sick?

Yeah this is what I heard. Something like Jesse Eisenberg would sit down at a clay spinning table and zombie Swayze would cuddle from behind like in 'Ghost'