NBC's ''Timeless''

[rashad]

I enjoyed this quite a bit.

 

[X-Ray]

It was alright. I am intrigued by the mystery surrounding a finished version of her journal being in his hands. Wonder why the their version of Tesla's founder wanted them recorded?

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

I liked it... it's either WWE Raw or this... I'd rather watch THIS...

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

It was alright. I am intrigued by the mystery surrounding a finished version of her journal being in his hands. Wonder why the their version of Tesla's founder wanted them recorded?[/QUOTE]

My theory so far. Obviously, he has knowledge of future events and the role played by the history teacher in the time line. The implied dialogues between him and the time machine pilot suggested that.
Mason wants record from the past to be sure that events will unfold as he saw them unfold.

 

[Hunter Rider]

They crammed in a lot and it really could have done with a double length ep to kick things off, but I liked the 3 leads and the concept, seeing them traveling to different historical moments on a mission to protect history should be fun.

 

[Dark Raven]

It was alright. Reminded me a bit of Seven Days with that round time ship.

This show had 2 actors from the Arrowverse: Patty Spivot and Moira Queen.

 

[X-Ray]

Patty! That's who the photographer was!

 

[Dark Raven]

They did go through quite a bit of trouble to restage the whole Hindenburg disaster. Does this show have a big budget? I guess it must have if they're going to be essentially period pieces each week.

But then maybe that's why Abigail Spencer said that her clothing wasn't the right period but 1940s. It was their way of getting round the fact that they might not always have the right costumes in their department or don't want to spend to make something new, so they can just explain it as part of the story that the time team don't have the right outfits either.

I wonder if, after her next trip, her sister will exist again but then her mother might not be alive, or she might suddenly acquire a brother. And there could be all kinds of variations so that she never knows how her relationship is going to be with these people each time she returns and there can never be any consistency.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

^^
My guess is that the teacher's vanishing from history sister is what will lead her to write her time journal to keep track of events changes in order to get her back.

 

[Dark Raven]

Haven't they created some kind of temporal paradox? If Lucy begins keeping a diary, it's because of the changes that have happened to the timeline as a result of Goran trying to change it. But she will also be inspired to keep one based on him showing her that she kept one. But then he is using it to manipulate time events which he was manipulating in the first place, which led to her keeping the diary as a result of his actions. So he's using her diary as a guide when he set the whole thing in motion in the first place.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

I don't think that deep when it comes to time travel especially on TV shows, we don't know which type of time travel story it will be, paradox, closed loop, self repair time line ( like in the pilot episode, the Hindenburg burned regardless of the events changes ).

For instance, maybe the teacher was always meant to keep a diary for a reason not necessarily linked to time travel ( as a hobby or whatever ), then she uses it as an history base line when the time line changes. No paradox here.

 

[Dr.]

Haven't they created some kind of temporal paradox?

“Time travel” stories (as a specific genre) include different sub-genres. One is the so-called “predestination paradox” - something, because of time travel convolutions, ends up not having any cause. E.g., Marty McFly was inspired by Chuck Berry who, in turn, was inspired by Marty McFly. (Or Heinlein’s classic/twisted -All You Zombies-.)

Now, you don’t have to like “predestination paradox” stories. But they’re pretty familiar as a trope.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

^^
That was the type I was looking for : predestination paradox aka causal loop.

 

[Dark Raven]

I know she doesn't want to forget all that's happened to her and maybe wants to write it down, but if she didn't keep one, then the existence of such a diary wouldn't fall into Vijsnic's hands in the first place and he wouldn't be able to go back and change history using it as a guide.

 

[kane9321]

poor brother..lol
I liked it...but it felt rushed

 

[Dark Raven]

What brother?

Unless your timeline has been changed and you remember a different episode where she had a brother.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

I know she doesn't want to forget all that's happened to her and maybe wants to write it down, but if she didn't keep one, then the existence of such a diary wouldn't fall into Vijsnic's hands in the first place and he wouldn't be able to go back and change history using it as a guide.

Nobody said she will not keep a diary at one point in her future but that her keeping one could have happened without her encounter with the time criminal.

 

[Dark Raven]

Nobody said she will not keep a diary at one point in her future but that her keeping one could have happened without her encounter with the time criminal.

I didn't say that anyone said she will not keep one. I said she shouldn't keep one if she doesn't want it to be something Vijsnic will use in the future.

 

[kane9321]

What brother?

Unless your timeline has been changed and you remember a different episode where she had a brother.

no no...the "pilot"...black thangt:

 

[Teelie]

Thought it was okay. Only one episode to go on but it wasn't a trainwreck despite opening with the Hindenberg disaster.

 

[Dark Raven]

There doesn't appear to be much of a strain to travel through time, even though they needed seatbelts and the pilot suggested it could be a rough ride. It's certainly not something like Seven Days where the pilots needed special training to be able to endure the journey and only Jonathan LaPaglia could withstand it.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

I didn't say that anyone said she will not keep one. I said she shouldn't keep one if she doesn't want it to be something Vijsnic will use in the future.

Ha ok, I misunderstood.

 

[Teelie]

The one problem I did find with it which they mostly lampshaded is having a black man on their team while they travel back in time to some particularly racist eras (especially anything pre-1965 like the 1930's).

I know what their intent with casting is but the plot of their series makes it pretty damned inconvienent to have someone who is at various points in time literally an undesirable person to be associated with more difficult to accept.

The sad fact is he is in more danger than anyone else of being flat out murdered just for being there regardless of his language (which they showcased a few times when Major Clueless was trying to get information using modern slang) or his clothing (the "pajamas" recurring joke) or the fact he is there with a white woman who could get lynched as well for associating with him.

Maybe they'll just "Stargate SG-1" that and start ignoring the glaring issues of culture and language barriers over the course of the season.

 

[Morg]

They are repeating the pilot tonight at 8 PM Eastern Time for those that missed it

 

[rashad]

Timeless - Episode 1.02 - The Assassination of Abraham Lincoln - Promotional Photos

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