New Christians Have A Voice

[Gilpesh]

And that group of people are mostly/all non-christians so sure, they'll all be in agreement.

Way to turn around and use the same tactics you didn't condone a few pages ago. Some might call that hypocrisy.

And it's already been made clear that one of the two reasons I was on that other thread was that evolution wasn't a 100% fact.

As I mentioned earlier. By that logic you should be going after gravity just as hard as you are going after evolution.

It's already been agreed here so all I've really got to show in the other thread is the Genesis part I was referring too. Plus, perhaps where some of the links backed me up. Oh, and contrary to what one poster said, you won't find any links/sites (with a possible exception of one) that I gave that were considered foolish or whatever. So, any case the other thread ever does get put back up, remember this post.

You might think that. But some times a site can be just spouting the same things as the sites you say they aren't. Only those sites pretend to be unbiased so people can reference it.

Happens in other topics as well.

 

[Superhobo]

I've had it since I was 3.

Yeah.

The thing is, though, I might have had it for a while, but I'd never been diagnosed until recently.

 

[rodhulk]

Way to turn around and use the same tactics you didn't condone a few pages ago. Some might call that hypocrisy.



As I mentioned earlier. By that logic you should be going after gravity just as hard as you are going after evolution.



You might think that. But some times a site can be just spouting the same things as the sites you say they aren't. Only those sites pretend to be unbiased so people can reference it.

Happens in other topics as well.

How is your first reference of me so bad. If they accept evolution, then of course they're not going to accept a creationist POV.

As far as I know and from what I got from the other thread (yes, that thread), we can be more confident in gravity than evolution.

Not sure what you're getting at with your last point. Judging by the way you're talking, not sure it really matters.

 

[Superhobo]

How is your first reference of me so bad. If they accept evolution, then of course they're not going to accept a creationist POV.

So, accepting evolution = atheist?

"The Bible is made up of sixty six books written over a period of about one thousand years...It is a book primarily of religion and morals. It is not a book of science. Never was and was never meant to be." - Clarence Darrow during the Scopes "Monkey" Trial.

As far as I know and from what I got from the other thread (yes, that thread), we can be more confident in gravity than evolution.

But why?

 

[Gilpesh]

How is your first reference of me so bad. If they accept evolution, then of course they're not going to accept a creationist POV.

It is a sign of hypocrisy. Just saying.

As far as I know and from what I got from the other thread (yes, that thread), we can be more confident in gravity than evolution.

Why? It is not 100% proven.

Not sure what you're getting at with your last point. Judging by the way you're talking, not sure it really matters.

I'll use Fox news to explain better. They say "Fair and Balanced" but it really isn't.

 

[The Senator]

How is your first reference of me so bad. If they accept evolution, then of course they're not going to accept a creationist POV.

As far as I know and from what I got from the other thread (yes, that thread), we can be more confident in gravity than evolution.

Not sure what you're getting at with your last point. Judging by the way you're talking, not sure it really matters.

If people can support evolution with scientific facts and hypotheses, how does that make it any more wrong than creationism?

While I agree evolution isn't a 100% accurate assessment of how things came to be, I feel there's more scientific evidence which supports it than there is evidence which says a giant finger at the center of the universe created us.

Debating evolution and creationism is silly.

 

[Arc-Light]

It's not so much these two I have a problem with, as they're presented in context as fantastical things. The things that really erk me are, like what I said before, where some guy creates a zebra by sticking a striped pole in front of two mating horses.

Oh i know, i just wanted to see what response our good friend rodhulk would make.....and he response was just like i knew it would be.

 

[rodhulk]

So, accepting evolution = atheist?




But why?

Did I say evolution = atheists?




Gravity..... because, it 'is' happening even if we don't have a full understanding as to why (we see gravity happening more than we see evolution happening in mankind, remember that other thread and it wasn't just me saying this). I could, of course say more, but I also said I wasn't going to get into the topics that are in that other thread.

 

[Danalys]

you know one of the best posts about evolution i've ever seen was made by a christian. basically explained viral insersion in human dna and how the odds of the same insertions in our closest relatives would be astronomically impossible by chance. also discussed the fusing of a chromosone pair. probably a few other things related in that post i've forgotton.

 

[Gilpesh]

Gravity..... because, it 'is' happening even if we don't have a full understanding as to why (we see gravity happening more than we see evolution happening in mankind, remember that other thread and it wasn't just me saying this). I could, of course say more, but I also said I wasn't going to get into the topics that are in that other thread.

How many times have you dropped things?

Unless it is an infinite amount of times, the sample size could just be off.

 

[Superhobo]

Did I say evolution = atheists?




Gravity..... because, it 'is' happening even if we don't have a full understanding as to why (we see gravity happening more than we see evolution happening in mankind, remember that other thread and it wasn't just me saying this). I could, of course say more, but I also said I wasn't going to get into the topics that are in that other thread.

What about micro evolution? We've seen that occur. Or, specific breeding, such as the pug? That's essentially evolution.

 

[rodhulk]

Oh i know, i just wanted to see what response our good friend rodhulk would make.....and he response was just like i knew it would be.

Don't forget, though, I told you ahead of time I wasn't going to get into it so it's not like you should have expected it!


Plus, you also said you weren't going to list anything. So, why did you? t:

 

[rodhulk]

How many times have you dropped things?

Unless it is an infinite amount of times, the sample size could just be off.

My answer remains as to what I said. Not sure why you go on but it's typical of some people on christians. t:

 

[Superhobo]

Don't forget, though, I told you ahead of time I wasn't going to get into it so it's not like you should have expected it!


Plus, you also said you weren't going to list anything. So, why did you? t:

That's another thing you always used to do, back in the old thread.

AVOID. AVOID. AVOID.

 

[Superhobo]

My answer remains as to what I said. Not sure why you go on but it's typical of some people on christians. t:

No, just dumb people.

 

[Gilpesh]

My answer remains as to what I said. Not sure why you go on but it's typical of some people on christians. t:

But you haven't observed gravity working in every possible situation. That means that there are certain parts where your argument breaks down and you're not even going to look into it.

 

[rodhulk]

What about micro evolution? We've seen that occur. Or, specific breeding, such as the pug? That's essentially evolution.

I agreed to some evolution in the past. I don't disagree with evolution, just as you may/do apply it to man.

 

[Superhobo]

I agreed to some evolution in the past. I don't disagree with evolution, just as you may/do apply it to man.

Aren't you a creationist, though?

 

[rodhulk]

But you haven't observed gravity working in every possible situation. That means that there are certain parts where your argument breaks down and you're not even going to look into it.

Because it was looked into more in the other thread and just like I've said a couple of times here, I'm not taking on those same arguments anymore. I got what I wanted before, I'm satisfied.

So just put it this way, if you have a problem with it, then that's 'your' problem. Not being ignorant or rude, just saying.......

 

[The Senator]

Aren't you a creationist, though?

Creationist, evolutionist... what's the difference, really?







Oh wait

 

[rodhulk]

Aren't you a creationist, though?

Sure. And anything that was created that has gone through some type of evolution in a natural means was created to do so. Man has not been found to have gone through evolution as you would say.

 

[Superhobo]

Because it was looked into more in the other thread and just like I've said a couple of times here, I'm not taking on those same arguments anymore. I got what I wanted before, I'm satisfied.

So just put it this way, if you have a problem with it, then that's 'your' problem. Not being ignorant or rude, just saying.......

So, instead of answering him, debating with him rationally (yuk yuk yuk), you're going to rely instead on that old hat "I said it in the old thread, and I don't want to say it anymore?"

 

[Gilpesh]

Because it was looked into more in the other thread and just like I've said a couple of times here, I'm not taking on those same arguments anymore. I got what I wanted before, I'm satisfied.

So just put it this way, if you have a problem with it, then that's 'your' problem. Not being ignorant or rude, just saying.......

My problem is in the fact that you will not apply the same logic to everything equally. You question evolution because parts of it haven't been proven but then allow gravity a free pass because it is smack you in the head with an apple obvious.

Also, gravity doesn't seem to contradict the bible... unless that whole walking on water part is still in it.

 

[rodhulk]

So, instead of answering him, debating with him rationally (yuk yuk yuk), you're going to rely instead on that old hat "I said it in the old thread, and I don't want to say it anymore?"

Yes, because it's his problem, not mine. And he got his general answer anyways.

 

[Superhobo]

Sure. And anything that was created that has gone through some type of evolution in a natural means was created to do so. Man has not been found to have gone through evolution as you would say.

Why do men have nipples? And, for that matter, why has the appendix become a useless organ that is sometimes the cause of ailment?