New Live Action Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Movie In The Works? - Part 4

[SilentWarriorZ]

Well People This is movie business Everything is money here they don't care of fanatics so there will be disappointing situations with the fan base , but as far as the name of Michael Bay's comes his Transformers trilogy was quite a hit with Audiences whether he screw up the franchise or not .

So maybe we could get to see a dark and humorous version of TMNT .

 

[Wheels]

It's all subjective in terms of how much change is acceptable. Bane before TDKR was probably a C list Batman villain. I've never cared for him so changing him was for the best in my eyes. However in the case of Shredder, he's a character that I like and he's the most iconic TMNT villain, so naturally I would dislike changes to the Shredder character more than that of the Bane character. The popularity of a character amongst the core fanbase plays a major factor in how the fans will react to changes. Obviously you could argue that there's an element of hypocrisy here, but that's the way things are.

 

[roach]

It's a fact of the movie business that somethings that sound good on paper look crappy on screen and the same is true in reverse.
I only preach patience because I've seen it time and time again...people lose there mind over news about a character only to be ok with it when they see the film...TDK's Joker is the prime example. He's the top villain now but when the first pic was released a lot of people were not impressed. The reason why the Hype switched to a new server was because of the great perma white arguments.

As I mentioned before this property is about change. That's all it ever did since its inception. I was/is a fan of the original comics. If my younger self has his way there would not have been an 80s cartoon...and if that happened the turtles wouldn't be what they were then and what they are today. How many here would even know what a ninja turtle was without the cartoon?

I don't know what they have in mind for this movie. It could be crap or it could be good. However why condemn a movie no one has seen yet? Give it til at least the trailer.

 

[Mr.?]

Just for clarification, I liked the 2009 Friday the 13th and the first Transformers.

Anyway, personally, when I first found out that Bay was attached to this, I felt trepidation. But then I found out he was just producing. And I felt, "Okay, that's not so bad. It'll have some money behind it and we'll get some decent effects. Let's see where this goes!"

Then I started reading news. They're aliens now. Not mutants. No wait, they're totally mutants again. Serious this time.

Foot Clan is some black ops guys. Uh...

Danny Woodburn is Splinter. Wait, what?

Megan Fox is April. Oh of course. Should've seen that one coming.

Fichtner is Shredder and his name is Eric. /tableflip

So yeah. At least for me, since I can't speak for anyone else, Bay's name didn't make me automatically hate this film.

All the news coming out FOR the movie is making me not really want to see it, ever. Even as a huge Turtles fan.

This is exactly how I feel. Stupid casting choices and inexplicable changes to the characters are why I'm not excited for this film.

 

[Marvin]

I don't see why it had to be given to someone who isn't even fond of the property (he didn't like Transformers either) and his handling of Ninja Turtles is a lot worse. At very least he got the bare bones and superficial aspects of Transformers but did you read the leaked TMNT script? We're not talking about minor changes here but very drastic changes to pretty much everything for no reason other than simply "because". It certainly wasn't a TMNT movie and I don't think it even worked as a popcorn flick. I wouldn't wish that kind of crap on any fandom

For starters, I for one don't believe only fans of something should be making adaptations, that's been shown to fail time and again here and there. One would assume both GiJoe films were made by fans of the material and one was marginally better received than the other. The reality is that sometimes these fan service filmmakers fall in to the same trappings that yielded a property that was only accessible to that group of fans to begin with. There is a reason Transformers was only so popular before bay(and co) made it a house hold name. I hate to say it but this is my analysis of what's going down with Star Trek.

As for this script I keep hearing about, no I didn't have the opportunity to read it, I'm sure few did. But I did hear about it like alot of folks. I also heard bay didn't write it(well he doesn't write anything), rather it was written before he was brought on board. I heard things like the film was about a guy named casey jones and a guy named "Shcrader", safe to say both of those things aren't present which would lead to a logical conclusion that yes, perhaps bay and co did come on after the fact and a new script was produced. I see absolutely no reason in detailing the flaws of said script at this point, but that's me.

That was never the complaint.

Actually it was, scroll back a few pages and you'll see for yourself.

It was whether the casting of Fitchner meant that the characters ethnic background was changed. A lot of people assumed (correctly as it turned out) that it has been and this was a big deal as the characters ethnicity is actualy important to the story.

I've said this elsewhere, Both Bane and Ra's are not white men, and they sure as hell are not from the UK. One's Hispanic and the other is Arab(and a terrorist if you can imagine). Anyone that thinks this character needs to be of asian decent for the story to work doesn't have an imagination imo.

The odds that they could still make a remotely faithful version seem to decrease if he's not called by the original name or seemingly have connections to Japan leading people to make assume we're getting something the awful version from the leaked script. It's a leap but certainly not an outlandish one.

Well, given the producer on this film, any leap is worth taking when it comes to our community. To each their own.

It's generaly percieved that Bay has a big hand in the movies he produces, this movie does seem to have some of the tropes he's known for (not to mention actors he likes to work with) and for the most part he certainly talks as if he is very much involved in the whole thing as does the cast. Fitchner himself has twice made a big point that this is Michael Bay's TMNT movie and Bay's vision. It's not like we're naming based on nothing.

Bay produced Friday the 13th though Platinum Dunes. How many of his tropes outside of "bad writing" and "explosions" did you spot?
Like I said, people said the same thing with Nolan on MoS before the fact and different things after. Even when Zimmer and Goyer showed up.
Bay is talking as producer does, just look up the Spielberg interviews for TF1.

I personally don't care all that much, if anything the more bay the bigger the hit probably. I'd rather that than another GiJoe.

 

[Klank]

For starters, I for one don't believe only fans of something should be making adaptations, that's been shown to fail time and again here and there. One would assume both GiJoe films were made by fans of the material and one was marginally better received than the other. The reality is that sometimes these fan service filmmakers fall in to the same trappings that yielded a property that was only accessible to that group of fans to begin with. There is a reason Transformers was only so popular before bay(and co) made it a house hold name. I hate to say it but this is my analysis of what's going down with Star Trek.

I didn't say that the movie has to be made by a fan but that getting a good director to make a hit movie but is also open minded enough to treat the property with some respect is doable. In fact it was done back in 1990 and I don't think that was a fluke.

Getting someone like Bay who doesn't treat these franchises as anything more than popcorn flicks at best seems financialy sound idea but I would argue that Viacom soon thought better of it hence the delays, hastily ordered rewrites and multiple budget cuts after not just fans but the general public reacted badly to what was being put out there about the film.

As for this script I keep hearing about, no I didn't have the opportunity to read it, I'm sure few did. But I did hear about it like alot of folks. I also heard bay didn't write it(well he doesn't write anything), rather it was written before he was brought on board. I heard things like the film was about a guy named casey jones and a guy named "Shcrader", safe to say both of those things aren't present which would lead to a logical conclusion that yes, perhaps bay and co did come on after the fact and a new script was produced. I see absolutely no reason in detailing the flaws of said script at this point, but that's me.

Yes, Bay did say the script was written before he was involved and that the turtles were never supposed to be aliens and many took his word for it but it's been as good as proven that this was a lie. The script was dated way after both Bay and PD got involved.

Not that I blame him for lying to cover his backside from negativity but I don't think that script is ditched at all. It's obviously been rewritten to some degree but there's a lot from that leaked script that is still present. The military-esque Foot, the turtles being captured and led in chains into a facility, an SUV chase on a snowy hill. Naturaly people are going to wonder what else is still present.

I've said this elsewhere, Both Bane and Ra's are not white men, and they sure as hell are not from the UK. One's Hispanic and the other is Arab(and a terrorist if you can imagine). Anyone that thinks this character needs to be of asian decent for the story to work doesn't have an imagination imo.

I would have preferred those roles to be ethnicaly accurate just for the sake of accuracy but really the character's race wasn't quite as important to their story. R'as was still an international eco terrorist that wanted to Bruce Wayne to succeed him. Bane was a drug addicted man that was raised in a harsh prison. They got the basics right.

Shredder being Japanese is more important as not only are ninjas intrinsicaly linked to Japan and his rivalry with Yoshi is also a very important part of not just the character's story but the whole story.

It's not about lack of imagination. Sure you could come up with a scenrario that makes the character still "work" as an American but it would be pretty complex especialy as it doesn't seem that Splinter will be from Japan either. Wouldn't this hurdle have been dodged by just sticking with him as Japanese?

Also do we really expect that they will go to all that trouble? All the signs seem to point to getting a character inspired by Schrader. Unless we get some info which suggests otherwise that is the obvious solution to draw.

Well, given the producer on this film, any leap is worth taking when it comes to our community. To each their own.

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

Bay produced Friday the 13th though Platinum Dunes. How many of his tropes outside of "bad writing" and "explosions" did you spot?

That's one movie which didn't but certainly it seems we ae getting a lot of tropes that Bay is known for in this movie as well as actors he's known to like to work with. I think it's fair to suggest he's pretty involved.

I personally don't care all that much, if anything the more bay the bigger the hit probably. I'd rather that than another GiJoe.

I don't think making a respectful movie and a box office hit are two mutualy exclusive goals. Like I said it can and has been done with TMNT before.

Not to mention that while I believe the movie will make a lot of money I don't think we should necessarily count on this being a huge hit. At some point the Bay bubble has to burst I feel.

 

[RAE072]

As I mentioned before this property is about change. That's all it ever did since its inception. I was/is a fan of the original comics. If my younger self has his way there would not have been an 80s cartoon...and if that happened the turtles wouldn't be what they were then and what they are today. How many here would even know what a ninja turtle was without the cartoon?

Considering that the first live action movie combined the best of the comics and the cartoon and made it a GOOD, faithful to the source material movie, this point is kind of moot.

Change is fine. Change for the sake of change is not fine. Change that makes characters completely and utterly unrecognizable to the source material is not at all okay.

Why bother with the property if all you're going to do is change literally everything about it? Which is what they were going to do before everyone got rightfully pissed off and then they backpeddled a bit.

That's a rhetorical question by the way. I already know the answer to it: money because of brand recognition.

 

[roach]

Considering that the first live action movie combined the best of the comics and the cartoon and made it a GOOD, faithful to the source material movie, this point is kind of moot.

Change is fine. Change for the sake of change is not fine. Change that makes characters completely and utterly unrecognizable to the source material is not at all okay.

Why bother with the property if all you're going to do is change literally everything about it? Which is what they were going to do before everyone got rightfully pissed off and then they backpeddled a bit.

That's a rhetorical question by the way. I already know the answer to it: money because of brand recognition.

Would there have been a live action movie if there wasn't a hit cartoon?

Complaining about a change outside of the context of the change makes no sense to me.
Example:
1) What if we find out that the Eric Saks character is a disguise for the Shredder? While the heroes are looking for a japanese ninja master they wouldnt think he was hiding as a white man.
2) What if the Shredder is actually like the Ra's Al Ghul/Mandarin situation?

 

[Marvin]

I didn't say that the movie has to be made by a fan but that getting a good director to make a hit movie but is also open minded enough to treat the property with some respect is doable. In fact it was done back in 1990 and I don't think that was a fluke.

2007 TMNT, fans and the GA didn't show up. For some reason they did for the TF film though.

Getting someone like Bay who doesn't treat these franchises as anything more than popcorn flicks at best seems financialy sound idea but I would argue that Viacom soon thought better of it hence the delays, hastily ordered rewrites and multiple budget cuts after not just fans but the general public reacted badly to what was being put out there about the film.

Popcorn films? I'm curious what exactly you would consider the 90's turtle films, including the first.

Secondly I noticed the studio did do a bunch of house cleaning as well, I also recall this happened after bay and co came on board. Perhaps this is what happens when a new producing team comes on board and retools things(such as weak scripts). Again I don't see how such an observation serves your point. If anything it means there was something in place that wasn't too hot with the fans(the GA has never spoken on such things in my observation) and then things changed. A good amount of films go though rewrites, and this usually come at the behest of the executives.

As for budget cuts, there are many interviews in which Bay states that film budgets are way too high. Looking at the way Platinum Dunes operates(low budget, high aesthetic), I see this as more his influence to be honest.
Considering the technology going into this film, I'm not surprised there are budget issues.

I would have preferred those roles to be ethnicaly accurate just for the sake of accuracy but really the character's race wasn't quite as important to their story. R'as was still an international eco terrorist that wanted to Bruce Wayne to succeed him. Bane was a drug addicted man that was raised in a harsh prison. They got the basics right.

Shredder being Japanese is more important as not only are ninjas intrinsicaly linked to Japan and his rivalry with Yoshi is also a very important part of not just the character's story but the whole story.

I don't recall any talk of Japanese ninja's in the Batfilms, I remember ninja's though...and thus my point.
It's odd that you can phrase the formers characterizations so plainly, yet cannot seem to do the same with Shredder. Scorned martial militant out for revenge would be the equivalent to what you reduced Ra's and Bane to just now.

It's not about lack of imagination. Sure you could come up with a scenrario that makes the character still "work" as an American but it would be pretty complex especialy as it doesn't seem that Splinter will be from Japan either. Wouldn't this hurdle have been dodged by just sticking with him as Japanese?

Dodging hurdles isn't the only way to make a good product. Especially when re-introducing a dead property to a new generation 20 years later(again ignoring the failed 2007 film). The question is, can it work. I've yet to hear anyone explain why not.

Also do we really expect that they will go to all that trouble? All the signs seem to point to getting a character inspired by Schrader. Unless we get some info which suggests otherwise that is the obvious solution to draw.

I'm not sure what you mean by this.

Simply put, I don't expect the internet community to do anything but make leaps to a conclusion they have already determined must arrive.
I personally have no opinion on the Schrader scenario to be honest. I think with an engaging script the idea works. If they turned him into a muffin baker that drank blood maybe not, but a different kind of general? My 8 year old cousin will do fine. Just like he did with the batman films.

That's one movie which didn't but certainly it seems we ae getting a lot of tropes that Bay is known for in this movie as well as actors he's known to like to work with. I think it's fair to suggest he's pretty involved.

Actually I was joking about the tropes, sadly the joke is made so often(by the internet imo) that at this point it's easy to take the statement seriously. Just about every summer film this year had explosions...

I think he's involved about as much as the next producer. I have no doubt he had a say in Megan Fox, but to assume the studio and the 10 other producers didn't have a say in the matter, possibly even before bay himself did....
If only Shia, martin lawrence and john tuturro were cast as turtles.
Fichtner is the main villain in the Disney movie opening this weekend...it happens. Given the direction "viacom" has signed off on, who would be a better choice than Fichtner at this point?

I don't think making a respectful movie and a box office hit are two mutualy exclusive goals. Like I said it can and has been done with TMNT before.

By respectful I assume you mean to source material...
And yes, I agree its' not mutually exclusive. And when this film is released we can discuss if it happened or not.

I should point out there are 2 other faithful turtle movies released in the 90's.
I should also point out that TF1 has a higher RT score than the 1990 TMNT. Not that I personally care about such things.

Not to mention that while I believe the movie will make a lot of money I don't think we should necessarily count on this being a huge hit. At some point the Bay bubble has to burst I feel.

A franchise with consistently increasing returns and a hit with the larger consensus that isn't riding off of star wars success is what I would personally call a huge hit. As seen with Xmen, when things stop being a hit, the audience goes along with it, as seen with Green Lantern when things aren't hitting the audience doesn't even show up.
As seen with The Hangover, the audience eventually tires of the same crap...

Not sure how else to explain away the TF success. Maybe Pacific Rim will shed some light on the matter.

I'm just going to wait for the footage to land before I start condemning the film.

 

[Klank]

2007 TMNT, fans and the GA didn't show up. For some reason they did for the TF film though.

Well I'm not really one to defend the Imagi movie. I thought it was a decent if unspectacular attempt at bringing the TMNT back to the silver screen.

That being said I don't think we should undersell it. It did well enough to not only get a sequel green lit straight away but when that fell through after Imagi and Mirage couldn't agree on a direction it was seeing the moderate success of that movie that got Mirage a live action movie deal were prior they couldn't.

It was because of that movie already in place that Viacom wanted to purchase the franchise. In fact the first press release seemed to suggest the reason they wanted to a cgi animated series was because of the movie. It may not have set the world on fire but it well enough to accomplish that.

Popcorn films? I'm curious what exactly you would consider the 90's turtle films, including the first.

Likewise I'm really not one to defend the two live action sequels.

I do however stand by the first movie though. It's a great blockbuster kids movie that could still appeal to older people and pulled off by a guy with a lot of respect for the franchise.

Secondly I noticed the studio did do a bunch of house cleaning as well, I also recall this happened after bay and co came on board. Perhaps this is what happens when a new producing team comes on board and retools things(such as weak scripts). Again I don't see how such an observation serves your point. If anything it means there was something in place that wasn't too hot with the fans(the GA has never spoken on such things in my observation) and then things changed. A good amount of films go though rewrites, and this usually come at the behest of the executives.

The house cleaning was way after Bay got involved. Like I said that leaked script was definitely from when Bay was directly involved and the changes were seemingly as a result of the backlash hence why the biggest change they made was what caused the furore in the first place - the turtles being aliens.

We can debate what really constitutes a 'fan' but I don't think any changes they made were to please the fans. I don't they gave a crap and strictly from a business perspective they shouldn't. You could take all established fans of the franchise put them together and I don't think we'd be enough to change anyones minds.

It was the backlash from the general public. Pretty much anyone that watched the show or the movies as a kid or the college age people who watched the '03 or even people who vaguely remembered the fad from the 80s that thought the turtles being aliens was a crap idea.

Dodging hurdles isn't the only way to make a good product. Especially when re-introducing a dead property to a new generation 20 years later(again ignoring the failed 2007 film). The question is, can it work. I've yet to hear anyone explain why not.

They created the hurdle themselves. Preseumebly because for whatever reason(s) they want big army battles regardless of whether it fits the franchise.

If they'd simply stuck to something resembling the source material there'd be no problem unless you're suggesting that a Japanese ninja master and criminal empire wouldn't appeal to todays audiences?

Then again I'm not sure there is a hurdle to overcome for them. A lot of people think and hope that despite what are pretty big differences they'll still try and make the character somehow faithful to past versions. I don't think that's their intention at all.

Simply put, I don't expect the internet community to do anything but make leaps to a conclusion they have already determined must arrive.
I personally have no opinion on the Schrader scenario to be honest. I think with an engaging script the idea works. If they turned him into a muffin baker that drank blood maybe not, but a different kind of general? My 8 year old cousin will do fine. Just like he did with the batman films.

I'd say people started out extremely open minded about this project but you can't stop people from forming an opinion on what they feel it will end up like based on what is out there which is hardly nothing.

Not only that but there are quite a few people that seem intent on trying to adminish people for doing what surely a natural reaction. I doubt these people would be advocating a 'wait and see' attitude if the casting choices and set pictures and interviews were actualy getting the rest of us hyped.

Actually I was joking about the tropes, sadly the joke is made so often(by the internet imo) that at this point it's easy to take the statement seriously. Just about every summer film this year had explosions...

I'm not just talking about explosions. A big one that sends alarm bells is that the what were tertiary characters in the old show (Vernon and Irma) as well as a few original human characters are now lead roles which brings to mind not only Bay's use of lame humour but also that the titular characters will secondary in terms of screen time to the humans.

Given the direction "viacom" has signed off on, who would be a better choice than Fichtner at this point?

To play The Shredder? How about Ken Watanabe? Louis Ozawa Changchien, Ian Anthony Dale to name a few. I can even think of a few non asian actors that pass if they obscured their features somehow.

To play Schrader/Eric Sachs...I guess I'll take their word that Fitchner is the best choice.

I should point out there are 2 other faithful turtle movies released in the 90's.

I wouldn't say they are faithful. Somewhat faithful, yes but I actualy think the movies got less sucessful the farther they got from the source material. You could also argue that the interest in the turtles was dialing down anyway but it still explains why the first one is still regarded as having aged pretty well while the other two are more thought of fondly in the context of nostalgia.

 

[RAE072]

Would there have been a live action movie if there wasn't a hit cartoon?

Complaining about a change outside of the context of the change makes no sense to me.
Example:
1) What if we find out that the Eric Saks character is a disguise for the Shredder? While the heroes are looking for a japanese ninja master they wouldnt think he was hiding as a white man.

If they want to rip off the first Rush Hour movie sure.

2) What if the Shredder is actually like the Ra's Al Ghul/Mandarin situation?

Boy I hope not, regarding The Mandarin. A lot of people were quite rightly pissed about that. Including me. Basically the only sour note in an otherwise great movie.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

I'm still hoping they play up the reincarnation idea from the IDW series. At least that could e plains why shredder is white and called Eric sachs

 

[SpideyFan866]

Paramount is once again foregoing an SDCC panel.

This makes the odds of us getting anything significant related to the turtles in the coming weeks significantly lower.

We may get lucky and have a poster released or maybe even a reveal for the designs, but any footage seems unlikely.

 

[Nathan]

I'm still hoping they play up the reincarnation idea from the IDW series. At least that could e plains why shredder is white and called Eric sachs

I don't know. Seems like a really smart idea, so naturally, they won't do it. They were already planning to turn them into aliens before the fan uproar. I doubt they'd do the spiritual angle and have them be reincarnations of past lives.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I don't know. Seems like a really smart idea, so naturally, they won't do it. They were already planning to turn them into aliens before the fan uproar. I doubt they'd do the spiritual angle and have them be reincarnations of past lives.

I don't know about that. I recently read the old script in full and, from what we've seen in set photos and heard since that leak, they have dropped a VAST majority of what they planned, in favor of a story based heavily on the 87 series (which fans, almost unanimously, love).

Yeah, there are still changes (like Burne Thompson being a woman) and visual similarities to what was described in the original script (larger, more human sized Turtles; the militarized foot which, and still do IMO, look like Ninjas, even if just vaguely) but they have clearly shown that they have rethought their approach and are considering the existing material while still crafting a new take on it, as opposed to, creating something ENTIRELY original with just characters and vague elements from the story.

For these reasons, I think its possible they might have looked to the IDW books for inspiration.

They know they have to get this all right.

 

[guy_from_nerk]

How do people get ninjas from people dressed in military garb? Is it cause they have some black in their outfits? There is nothing ninja about guys dressed in camo holding guns. No offense spidey fan, but as someone who did see the first 3 films in theaters, this movie is ruining my childhood each and every time a set pic or some bit of news is released.

 

[Naked Shia]

this movie isn't ruining anything, you haven't seen it yet.

 

[Wheels]

How can a movie ruin your childhood? Your childhood still happened and everything you love about TMNT still exists. The "ruined my childhood" statement is one of the dumbest things people say on the net.

 

[Ipodman]

A more accurate statement would be: Give people a wrong impression of my childhood

 

[SpideyFan866]

I'm getting sick of people saying the movie is "ruining" or "raping" their childhood when between the VERY clear inspiration from the 1987 series and the exceptionally inspired castings (Burne/Bernadette aside and perhaps Shredder aside) to go with it, this movie looks like its doing everything possible (while still being its own thing) to respect the mythology of TMNT and people's childhood view of them , even if they did stumble getting there ("The Blue Door" script).

As someone who is very anal when it comes to adaptations, I really think that they are doing TMNT right.

Hell, even in the leaked "The Blue Door" version, they had the personalities of the Turtles as well as the action perfected, IMO. It was almost like they were written to be like the 1990 versions. Quite shockingly so.

And the action was like every great piece of action and stunts from previous adaptations rolled into one. There was alot of bareknuckle and improvised weapon fighting ala the original films. And hell, even 2007's "TMNT" inspired alot of the acrobatics/stunt sequences in the movie (There was a rooftop leaping sequence that was amazing).

My point is, people need to turn their hate blinders off and give credit where, IMO, its VERY much due.

They ARE listening to us fans and they have made alot of the changes we asked for when the other script leaked (But in all fairness, they realised their mistake MONTHS before we did/the script leaked), though with some minor portions of their take remaining (Particularly, and really ONLY, the Foot. Not necessarily Shredder, or rather, the "Schrader" take on him).

And, even in the original "Blue Door" story, they gave us MANY things that, as a hardcore TMNT fan myself, I can say would've pleased ALOT of us. Even if just on as simple a level as seeing the brothers interact, quarrel, give the occasional nod to the fans/mythos (like the "same colored bandana" scene)
, and have some kick ass action scenes together.

So I can't stress enough how much faith I have that they will pull this off and in a more the respectful way to people's oh so sensitive childhoods.

 

[Wheels]

How exactly is Fox inspired casting?

 

[SpideyFan866]

How do people get ninjas from people dressed in military garb? Is it cause they have some black in their outfits? There is nothing ninja about guys dressed in camo holding guns. No offense spidey fan, but as someone who did see the first 3 films in theaters, this movie is ruining my childhood each and every time a set pic or some bit of news is released.

Where do you at all see camo?

Yeah, they have a military quality about them due to the elements that make up the uniform and the choice of guns over traditional ninja weapons.

HOWEVER, even if its not how the FOOT CLAN ninjas are usually portrayed, they're overall appearance has a very ninja like appearance to it, even if it does border on a twisted, military like parody. And I mean that in a good way.

 

[SpideyFan866]

How exactly is Fox inspired casting?

She's a super hot female whom's talent is underrated and overlooked JUST because she's super hot and because she rarely has been used for anything outside of her hotness, and again, BECAUSE she's super hot.

That is , in many ways, the same description one can make for April O'Neil from the the 1987 series, the version they are so very clearly going for.

So I find it hard to say she'll suck when she's, for lack of a better phrasing, playing herself.

 

[Wheels]

She's a super hot female whom's talent is underrated and largely overlooked JUST because she's super hot.

That is the same description of April from the the 1987 series, the version they are so very clearly going for.

So I find it hard to say she'll suck when she's, for lack of a better phrasing, playing herself.

I still wouldn't call it inspired even if I agreed with you.

Heath Ledger as The Joker was inspired. Fox in a Bay produced TMNT film is the equivalent of Hans Zimmer scoring Man of Steel.

Boring would be more accurate considering her name popped up as soon as Bay was attached.

 

[Ipodman]

Well she didn't win an oscar in Transformers but look how successful that movie was