The Dark Knight Rises Nolan...add Robin!!!!!!

[Ronny Shade]

Robin alone would not kill the movie.

 

[Two-Face]

Batman had Robin since 1940 so Robin will be in new franchise maybe new director is selected by WB after Nolan quits.

 

[El Payaso]

That is correct--for the same reasons that nobody could stop Bruce from becoming Batman, despite their best efforts.

But no one's encouragement either. At least until he was mature enough.

But we know this because we're conscious that it is purely fiction and we know what's going to happen. Real people is always free to choose and change. Good artists try to make a real people feeling about characters.

It doesn't matter if they turn a blind eye or not: he's Batman. They can't catch him, they can't do ****.

Yes, they can. At the very least they can have an order for his arrest. No more bat-signals, Gordon wouldn't be unable to reveal publicly his association with a child perverter.

Batman breaks the law to do the right thing all the time (in real life, Batman would be facing so many aggravated assault charges that he'd spend his entire life in prison), and this extends to Robin.

I'd say if he helps, ok. If he start perverting underage kids, that's another story. For all police authorities know, Robin could be the first one of a bunch.

No, I just don't care what Nolan said. People change their minds all the time. Raimi said he didn't want to do Venom, and surprise, now he's doing Venom. I can only hope the same thing will happen with Nolan.

Raimi was forced to do Venom, but Raimi is always happy to get his pants down for Hollywood.

I'll stick to Nolan and Bale's true desires about what a Batman movie should be. I think better of them than I do of Raimi for sure.

What the hell are you talking about? First of all, Dick was twelve--not eight--

Ah, that changes everything. A mob boss surrounded by bodyguards and protection with a bunch of powerful enemies can be killed by a lonely 12 y.o. kid.

second, who said anything about a prison? I said foster home and mansion. You can't lock him up in a prison because he isn't guilty of anything. The only places Dick would be--an orphanage, a foster home, or Wayne Manor, he would simply get out of. Kids get out of these places all the time, there would simply be no way to prevent it--especially with a boy so skilled as Dick. I also never said he would kill Zucco--I said he would try to, and get himself killed in the process.

If Dick tries, Batman should get him to jail. Not training him. How many boys wanting to kill someone Batman should train just to prevent the conseqcuences of their actions?

Please, stop wasting my time and read some Robin stories before running your mouth.

You're the only one wasting your own time buddy. At least try and enjoy it as much as I do.

Batman had Robin since 1940 so Robin will be in new franchise maybe new director is selected by WB after Nolan quits.

History always repeats itself. But I'm curious, how 60 years will convince executives of anything? Any link on this?

 

[COMPO]

Yes, they can. At the very least they can have an order for his arrest. No more bat-signals, Gordon wouldn't be unable to reveal publicly his association with a child perverter.



I'd say if he helps, ok. If he start perverting underage kids, that's another story.

What is it with you pedophilia? Bloody hell, mate. Every post you make is BATMAN IS A PEDOPHILE! ROBIN IS BATMAN'S *****! SINGLE BACHELOR CAN SPEEL PEDO!

 

[El Payaso]

It's not pedo, it's taking an orphan kid and instead of giving him help to heal his pain and try to give him a normal life, training him to risk his life in illegal activities. That's perversion too.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I don't think Batman respects people who lives normal lives. I think a small part of him resents them.

 

[COMPO]

all right. But, could you just let me know one thug. Why don't you like robin? And give me a reason.

 

[Saint]

But no one's encouragement either. At least until he was mature enough.

Exactly--Bruce did not want Dick to turn out the way he did. he wanted Dick to have a better life, to fight crime--because that's what Dick wanted--but not be miserable and alone, like Batman. As such, he intervened. Batman builds Dick the way he would have built himself, had he the experience to know when he did it.

But we know this because we're conscious that it is purely fiction and we know what's going to happen. Real people is always free to choose and change. Good artists try to make a real people feeling about characters.

Bruce made a choice based on observation. People disagree with it in the comics plenty--only we, the readers, know the truth of it.

Yes, they can. At the very least they can have an order for his arrest. No more bat-signals, Gordon wouldn't be unable to reveal publicly his association with a child perverter.

This has happened plenty of times in the comics--of course, you wouldn't know that because you don't bother reading them, apparently. When Batman has to do something that might sever his ties with the police, he does it.

I'd say if he helps, ok. If he start perverting underage kids, that's another story. For all police authorities know, Robin could be the first one of a bunch.

It wasn't perverting, it was saving. And again, the police don't matter, and never have.

Ah, that changes everything. A mob boss surrounded by bodyguards and protection with a bunch of powerful enemies can be killed by a lonely 12 y.o. kid.

"Hi, my name is El Payaso and I'm going to ignore the fact that Saint has said repeatedly that Dick would have been killed if he tried to get to Zucco."

If Dick tries, Batman should get him to jail. Not training him. How many boys wanting to kill someone Batman should train just to prevent the conseqcuences of their actions?

"Hi, I'm El Payaso and I forget that the situation Dick is in is the exact same situation Bruce Wayne was in when he was younger."

Sending him to prison accomplishes nothing, and Bruce knows this from experience. Bruce knows the only way to do anything constructive in this situation is to fight for justice, not to lock a little boy in a jail cell. No, it isn't an orthodox solution, but it is the only solution Bruce Wayne knows, because it is the solution he chose when faced with the same situation.

To answer your second question: as many as he has to. He took Jason for fear Jason would end up a criminal. He took Tim in because Tim was determined to become Robin with or without Batman's consent. He took Spoiler in because she was going to get herself killed (since you apparently don't read comics, I will explain that Spoiler was an untrained vigilante. When Batman sees the opportunity to save people like this from themselves, he does it.

 

[Eros]

saint your still sound like a fool imo, you make excuses for a man who allows uderage kids to fight crime, becasue "hes protecting them" lol. Im sure jason Todd didn't feel like that. If batman can't stop kids from going out and takeing "revenge", he should hang up his cape and cowl.

 

[Katsuro]

saint your still sound like a fool imo, you make excuses for a man who allows uderage kids to fight crime, becasue "hes protecting them" lol. Im sure jason Todd didn't feel like that. If batman can't stop kids from going out and takeing "revenge", he should hang up his cape and cowl.

I'm sure he could stop them, but why would he? Isn't it a bit hypocritical? He did the exact same thing they want to do, so how would it be right for him to lock them up and deny them their chance to seek justice?

 

[raybia]

13 pages?!

Come on guys, all this immature bickering back and forth.

And for what? Over Dick?!

GROW UP WILL YA!

 

[Eros]

I'm sure he could stop them, but why would he? Isn't it a bit hypocritical? He did the exact same thing they want to do, so how would it be right for him to lock them up and deny them their chance to seek justice?

becasue they were 12,9, and 13 thats why.

 

[Katsuro]

becasue they were 12,9, and 13 thats why.

Bruce left at age 14 in the comics, which is younger than i'd have Robin starting in the movies.

 

[Saint]

saint your still sound like a fool imo, you make excuses for a man who allows uderage kids to fight crime, becasue "hes protecting them" lol. Im sure jason Todd didn't feel like that.

Jason certainly did feel like that, and still does--he's back from the dead, in case you didn't know. The only criticism of Batman he has is that Batman didn't kill the Joker in retribution.

becasue they were 12,9, and 13 thats why.

So? Batman left home between 12-14 to go learn to fight crime, and that was with nobody at his side to help keep him alive. These kids, on the other hand, had Batman.

In any case, that's enough of that. I'm just repeating myself now, because the people arguing with me seem to have no interest in considering any of my arguments. It's become obvious they're not interested in Robin's value, they'd rather just bleat out "YOU WANT IT 2 BE TEH SCHUMACHER!!11" over and over again, with utter disregard for the myriad of stories in which Robin has been used well by competent writers. Frankly, it seems as if you guys just don't want Batman, his history, and is supporting cast to be like they are in the comics, and since that's the case I really have nothing more to say to you, because I think the source material is important, and you obviously do not.

 

[Eros]

Jason certainly did feel like that, and still does--he's back from the dead, in case you didn't know. The only criticism of Batman he has is that Batman didn't kill the Joker in retribution.


So? Batman left home between 12-14 to go learn to fight crime, and that was with nobody at his side to help keep him alive. These kids, on the other hand, had Batman.

In any case, that's enough of that. I'm just repeating myself now, because the people arguing with me seem to have no interest in considering any of my arguments. It's become obvious they're not interested in Robin's value, they'd rather just bleat out "YOU WANT IT 2 BE TEH SCHUMACHER!!11" over and over again, with utter disregard for the myriad of stories in which Robin has been used well by competent writers. Frankly, it seems as if you guys just don't want Batman, his history, and is supporting cast to be like they are in the comics, and since that's the case I really have nothing more to say to you, because I think the source material is important, and you obviously do not.

glad to hear that, or and Bruce had alfred when he traveled th world, also in pre-crisis times bruce never traveled the world, he studied at home under his uncles care.

 

[Katsuro]

glad to hear that, or and Bruce had alfred when he traveled th world, also in pre-crisis times bruce never traveled the world, he studied at home under his uncles care.

wtf? No he didn't! Alfred never left Gotham City when Bruce did.

 

[Eros]

wtf? No he didn't! Alfred never left Gotham City when Bruce did.

so how do you suppose a 14 year old kid got out of america wihout an adult? or what would alfred say when social services asked where master Bruce was?

 

[Saint]

so how do you suppose a 14 year old kid got out of america wihout an adult? or what would alfred say when social services asked where master Bruce was?

Easy: forged papers indicating Bruce is at a prep-school or some such thing. He had no problem forging papers to get him into colleges and even FBI training, so faking his whereabouts would pose no great difficulty.

 

[Eros]

Easy: forged papers indicating Bruce is at a prep-school or some such thing. He had no problem forging papers to get him into colleges and even FBI training, so faking his whereabouts would pose no great difficulty.

alfred is very stupid then to, if he let a kid run off around the world. Man Batman has stupid characters lol. thank god for the Nolan and burton, or that kind of stupidtiy would of been in the movies.

 

[Saint]

alfred is very stupid then to, if he let a kid run off around the world. Man Batman has stupid characters lol. thank god for the Nolan and burton, or that kind of stupidtiy would of been in the movies.

Yeah, Nolan and Goyer prefer the stupidity of a microwave emitter that doesn't harm humans and isn't affected by metal, because the idea of a child running away from home is much more unrealistic than breaking the laws of physics with magic microwave emitters, don't you think?

And before anyone says I shouldn't be insulting Nolan--I wasn't. I was pointing out the faulty logic of our friend Eros here.

 

[Eros]

Yeah, Nolan and Goyer prefer the stupidity of a microwave emitter that doesn't harm humans and isn't affected by metal, because the idea of a child running away from home is much more unrealistic than breaking the laws of physics with magic microwave emitters, don't you think?

And before anyone says I shouldn't be insulting Nolan--I wasn't. I was pointing out the faulty logic of our friend Eros here.

the micro wave emitter was also pretty odd and stupid, but not as stupid as alfred and Bruce in the comics lol.

 

[El Payaso]

^ Ah, some pretty incoherent or stupid things we love in comics aren't that attractive when you have to add a third dimension as in movies.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

^ Ah, some pretty incoherent or stupid things we love in comics aren't that attractive when you have to add a third dimension as in movies.

God, it's good to hear someone other than myself making that point. Granted I normally would use it in a different thread, but, hey.

 

[Miranda Fox]

I love how the 'focus microwaves' bit always gets ignored...

 

[Ronny Shade]

I love how the 'focus microwaves' bit always gets ignored...

Are you kidding? People rag on that all the time