The Dark Knight Rises Jeph Loeb defends robin

[nightwing2010]

Azrael ????????????

compared to robin, he was a minor character

your only talking about someone who was around for a brief period in the 90's

exactly! i agree who cares , if azreal never show in a batfilm, i could care less! robin has to show, ignoring robin, is stupid and foolish, its like ignoring history!

 

[Comics N' Toons]

i mean joker has been in 2 batfilms & when people think batman, THEY THINK JOKER


robin is just as important as joker & i'm not even a fan who likes movies over comics

i like comics & if the movies are good i'll watch them

 

[nightwing2010]

i mean joker has been in 2 batfilms & when people think batman, THEY THINK JOKER


robin is just as important as joker & i'm not even a fan who likes movies over comics

i like comics & if the movies are good i'll watch them

im like that too but i love the comics and i feel, the best and closest interpretation to the batman comics 99 percent is the 90s animated series!

 

[GL1]

I would love to see a John Paul Valley cameo in a Batman movie... just put his name on a tombstone or something. That would make me very happy.

Seeing Azrael in all his sword-flaming glory would not, btw.

 

[nightwing2010]

I would love to see a John Paul Valley cameo in a Batman movie... just put his name on a tombstone or something. That would make me very happy.

Seeing Azrael in all his sword-flaming glory would not, btw.

lol too true!

 

[Smit84]

I wouldn't want Robin in the third Batman if only because it would mirror the previous series of films too much. I mean in the Burton/Shumacher era you had Batman solo for the first two films and then Robin was introduced in the third film in pretty much the same manner as Loebb suggests he should be (Grayson doesn't become Robin until the third act). I had no problem with O'Donnell in Forever, just in Batman & Robin. Besides, we are all discussing this on the assumption that Nolan is going to do a trilogy. I think even if Nolan does a third film he is going to leave it just as open-ended as he's left his first two.

 

[Nepenthes]

^Robin introduced in the end of movie three would mirror the beginning of BB. It bookends the trilogy and it signals an enduring legacy and new hope to overcome the depression of TDK and the whole redemption theme. These story benefits would far outweigh any concerns about similarities to the previous movies. Like anyone will still care about the old movies anyway. Everyone knows they're pretty silly and um yeah pretty different to what Nolans doing.

 

[El Payaso]

Like anyone will still care about the old movies anyway. Everyone knows they're pretty silly and um yeah pretty different to what Nolans doing.

And everyone was thinking BB was a prequel to those.

 

[NoirMan82]

And everyone was thinking BB was a prequel to those.

Haha! Yeah, I remember explaining that to every person. No it's not a prequel!
Also, I finally figured out why people are jonesing for Robin. Two-Face! The emergence of Two-Face has always been inter-twined with the emergence of Robin. These days it seems like Two-Face is more of a Robin villain than a Batman villain.

 

[El Payaso]

Two-Face has a whole story with Batman, old friends and all, their different concepts of justice vs law, etc etc.

 

[nightwing2010]

Haha! Yeah, I remember explaining that to every person. No it's not a prequel!
Also, I finally figured out why people are jonesing for Robin. Two-Face! The emergence of Two-Face has always been inter-twined with the emergence of Robin. These days it seems like Two-Face is more of a Robin villain than a Batman villain.

i thinksn its kinda cool is thattwo face is interchangeable with batman or robin, they are great atwo-face/robin stories & great twoface/batman Stories as well!

 

[NotAShrimp]

I think there should be no Robin.
They would have to waste the whole third movie for Robin's story.
It would be different if it was TV series like Smallville or something.

 

[nightwing2010]

i think your 1000 percent Wrong and inaccurate and now that DC will be a more active part of warner bros, Robin will be showing up! YES!!

 

[Two-Face]

i think your 1000 percent Wrong and inaccurate and now that DC will be a more active part of warner bros, Robin will be showing up! YES!!

Well I guess we will lose Nolan brothers, Bale, Caine, Oldman & Freeman.

 

[El Payaso]

i think your 1000 percent Wrong and inaccurate and now that DC will be a more active part of warner bros, Robin will be showing up! YES!!

That's the hell of a percentage there.

But yes, it is very possible that once Nolan and co leave the franchise this will find its decadence as it usually happens.

 

[NoirMan82]

i think your 1000 percent Wrong and inaccurate and now that DC will be a more active part of warner bros, Robin will be showing up! YES!!

I wish I had your youthful zeal and optimism, Nightwing, I really do.

 

[Gilpesh]

i think your 1000 percent Wrong and inaccurate and now that DC will be a more active part of warner bros, Robin will be showing up! YES!!

Wow... so you're gonna take Dark Knight and then let DC come in and completely control production... just for Robin?

Wow.

 

[NoirMan82]

I think there should be no Robin.
They would have to waste the whole third movie for Robin's story.
It would be different if it was TV series like Smallville or something.

Dick Grayson's origin is rather simple, and should take no more than two acts to cover. He's not Batman, he should not, and would not, be the center piece of the a film.

 

[weezerspider]

The best Batman stories are either of Batman alone or of Robin dieing(Death In The Family). Honestly, Death in The Family is the only Robin story I would like to see in a Nolan film. If only Ledger was alive, seeing his Joker with a crow bar beating the heck outta Robin. Good Stuff.

 

[NoirMan82]

The best Batman stories are either of Batman alone or of Robin dieing(Death In The Family). Honestly, Death in The Family is the only Robin story I would like to see in a Nolan film. If only Ledger was alive, seeing his Joker with a crow bar beating the heck outta Robin. Good Stuff.

I agree, but only if it's Jason Todd. I hate that little prick.

 

[weezerspider]

I agree, but only if it's Jason Todd. I hate that little prick.

Actually, yeah, that sounds good. Let Jason Todd come in BB4. He gets trained by Bats in Act one because his father was killed by the mob and he needs to find his mother and save her. In the same act Bats is after the now escaped Joker. Act two, Todd feels his training is complete and leaves Wayne Manor to find and save his mother, Joker realizes that this caped kid running Gotham around must belong to Bats, so he captures him. Act 3, Joker beats Robin to death, Bats arrives and he and Joker have a climatic battle. Robin enters the Nolan universe and leaves the Nolan universe all in one movie.

 

[The Shadow]

That is a little too fast paced. I think it would be more understandable if it opened with Joker killing Jason and then went to a flash back that shows how he came to be robin and follows through with his story until they get to the part where Joker kill him. Then in BB5 we could see Tim Drake at some point. Or Jason could come back as Red Hood.

 

[RobinWB]

nah id rather See the Original and the BEST and most well known ICONIC ROBIN, DICK GRAYSON!

 

[RobinWB]

Well I guess we will lose Nolan brothers, Bale, Caine, Oldman & Freeman.

whatever Bale can talk all the crap he wants hes contractually obliged to a third film! if robin is in it that Jackass would still have to stay!

 

[souvlaki]

I really don't get this at all. Robin didn't show up until Batman's third year. TDK takes place during what, the end of Batman's first year? Maybe the beginning of the second? There are countless year one/year two stories that don't involve Robin (hell, Robin wasn't even introduced in Legends of the Dark Knight until the 100th issue). By the time Robin had showed up in the comics post crisis the Joker, Catwoman, Penguin, Riddler, Two Face, Mad Hatter, Calendar Man, Hugo Strange and countless other villains had already been introduced. So please, someone explain to me how Nolan is ignoring years of comic book history by ignoring a character that logically shouldn't even show up until a good year and a half to two years after TDK even takes place. He's not ignoring anything, he's just acknowledging something that apparently a lot of people don't want to accept: Batman was solo for quite a bit of time and a lot of other characters were introduced before Dick Grayson's parents were even killed.