The Dark Knight Rises Jeph Loeb defends robin

[louiebling$]

Check the link discuss wat you think http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/03/comic-writer-jeph-loeb-defends-robin-for-nolans-batman-trilogy/ I can honestly understand why nolan doesn't want robin...... BUT robin is an essential character to batman... especially dick grayson..... I think he should be in the 3rd film

 

[NoirMan82]

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[NoirMan82]

I agree with Loeb 100%. Robin is a part of Batman lore. It's hard to even say Batman without Robin being in the back of your head. Robin gets such a bum rap because outside of Batman: TAS he has never been represented right. That's why I want Nolan to introduce him, because he's the only man I trust to do it right. It would be the ultimate one-up for him, to say "I made Robin really cool".

 

[omerhead]

Before Bale was cast as Batman, Nolan convinced him that Batman is a cool character by making him read The Long Halloween and other dark comics books. Nolan could again convince him that Robin can be dark as well.

 

[Matt.S99]

Nolan doesnt want robin in his movies eithe,r i doubt he'd try to convince bale to like robin

 

[Drizzle]

We don't need Robin in the third film and we sure as hell don't need anyone (such as WB) forcing him on Nolan.

 

[REDophile]

Hate to say this, but Loeb has more credibility on this issue. Not that I want to see Robin in the third act, but it sounded rather immature of Bale to say he would "lock himself up" or whatever if Robin was introduced.
Just because of the Chris O'Donnell incarnation was false to the character doesn't mean Robin should never be in a Bat-film ever again. Loeb got it right in Dark Victory, its an in depth, father-son relationship and not a campy brothers-in-crime one as depicted in the Schumacher films.
Still, Nolan and Co. shouldn't include Robin in the sequel to TDK. They should just allude to him at the end like they did with the Joker in BB. Have Alfred tell Bruce about an orphan boy named Dick Grayson and leave it at that.

 

[louiebling$]

I want robin in batman.... so we can get to NIGHTWING

 

[Gilpesh]

Hate to say this, but Loeb has more credibility on this issue. Not that I want to see Robin in the third act, but it sounded rather immature of Bale to say he would "lock himself up" or whatever if Robin was introduced.
Just because of the Chris O'Donnell incarnation was false to the character doesn't mean Robin should never be in a Bat-film ever again. Loeb got it right in Dark Victory, its an in depth, father-son relationship and not a campy brothers-in-crime one as depicted in the Schumacher films.
Still, Nolan and Co. shouldn't include Robin in the sequel to TDK. They should just allude to him at the end like they did with the Joker in BB. Have Alfred tell Bruce about an orphan boy named Dick Grayson and leave it at that.

Comic-wise... not in Nolan's movies-wise.

Why should Nolan 'venom' in Robin cause Loeb said so?

 

[TonySoprano]

I don't see how Robin should work in the Nolanverse. I don't think it's even possible to make his costume work in a realistic setting while staying true to the robin-aspect of the character.
Batgirl would be way easier imo.

 

[ABleedingCorpse]

No Robin. I understand his history with Batman and he's a part of the mythos, but I personaly don't want to see Robin in a Nolan film. I don't like Robin that much, or rather not at all. Batman doesn't need a sidekick.

 

[omerhead]

Bale was probably joking about Robin or thought it's too risky.

 

[louiebling$]

We never kno...nolan and bale could be sayin all this no robin blah blah blah and we all believe it and then when batman 3 comes out his the big secret lol

 

[JokerLedger]

Some people don't understand or can't accept the fact that both Nolan and Bale don't want Robin in their movies. It's simple as that. That doesn't mean he won't show up somewhere down the line but as long as Nolan is at the helm, we won't be getting him and I'm with Bale on this 100%.

Yes, Robin is essential to the character of Batman like many say but not at the early stages of where Chris' films take place so right now, he is totally irrelevant to the trilogy. The only character that comes to mind right now that can impact both Bruce and Batman in the next movie is the introduction of Selina Kyle.

Right now we're dealing with the beginnings of Batman. We got his origin and now with TDK we're getting his realization. I don't know what the third movie will be about but Bruce Wayne is a character that is still being developed. The focus should stay on him rather than deal with the origin of a freaking child sidekick.

Let the next director and creative team tackle Robin and stop bothering Nolan & co.

 

[Nightwing1977]

We don't need Robin in the third film and we sure as hell don't need anyone (such as WB) forcing him on Nolan.

Word.

 

[Victarion]

Given recent reviews,

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I don't think Bruce taking in an orphaned Dick Grayson is very plausible since he's somewht of an outlaw. If we had the rise of the freaks for the rumored third movie, then I could see how Dick could fit into the story.

 

[Blader5489]

The fact that Loeb wants Robin in the movies is reason enough to leave Robin out.

 

[Cinemaman]

I never liked Robin, as this character always seemed annoying to me. So I hope Nolan won't repeat Raimi's deed and accept Robin in his trilogy.

 

[Styl3s]

No robin please god no robin

i know hes part the lore and blah blah, this is nolans retelling of batman and im loving it so far there is absolutely no need to bring robin in

 

[Bubastis]

I absolutely do not want Robin in the Nolan films, but I'd love to see how Nolan approached the material. I think he could be useful, the story of Dark Victory could work as a decent sequel to TDK as it was to The Long Halloween. Batman cuts off communication with anybody that he could be close to, becomes cold, and is slowly tearing himself apart. But I think Robin and Catwoman could both be used well as they are both just like him (which is why I will defend to my grave that Selina Kyle is the only woman Bruce Wayne was ever meant for.)

 

[Go God Go!]

No robin please god no robin

i know hes part the lore and blah blah, this is nolans retelling of batman and im loving it so far there is absolutely no need to bring robin in

It's not just that he's a part of the lore, it's that he - as shocking as it may be - is actually a really good character that can open up several different storylines that - shockingly - actually help to make Batman himself an even more interesting character.

But yeah, who cares about that, this is Nolan's retelling of Batman, and since he made a few movies about Batman's EARLY CAREER without Robin, that of course means Robin should never ever appear in his movies.

 

[StorminNorman]

I want Robin in BB4 - not BB3.

But anyone that says "Robin ruins Batman" is typically an idiot.

 

[Gilpesh]

I want Robin in BB4 - not BB3.

But anyone that says "Robin ruins Batman" is typically an idiot.

I'm just saying Robin for the sake of Robin... ruins Batman. Unless Nolan comes up with one of those awesome stories that Robin is apart of and isn't just throwing him in.

 

[Katsuro]

I want Robin in BB4 - not BB3.

But anyone that says "Robin ruins Batman" is typically an idiot.

I want Robin in BB4, but Dick Grayson in BB3. I'd rather not even see him in the suit until the fourth movie.

I really think Nolan could do wonders with the character, and tell a story good enough to get the image most people have of him out of their heads. He could make Robin a badass.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I want Robin in BB4, but Dick Grayson in BB3. I'd rather not even see him in the suit until the fourth movie.

I'd be up for that.

Really as it stands, I don't care what they have on paper, the character of Batman by himself is going to get stale after two films. That's kind of the corner Nolan is backing himself into right now. He might not think this way, but everyone who sees Batman secretly in the back of their minds is wondering when Robin is going to show up. It's hard not to, because, well their relationship is so central to the story. You can't just have Batman alone, for three films, alienating the world around him. Sure you can introduce new villains, but ultimately, that's not going to keep the story very fresh, and slowly you're going to run out of ideas. Once you've covered the Joker, and set up villains like Two-Face and the Penguin, and created the world of freaks and darkness Batman lives in, you actually have to move on with the character.