The Dark Knight Rises Nolan...add Robin!!!!!!

[regwec]

Salutem, Filus! I thought the Feds had got you.

 

[itsthebatman]

Salutem, Filus! I thought the Feds had got you.

No, I'm here. Being watchful. Being a guardian. Definitely NOT being a hero.
Call it in.

 

[Texas Zombie]

Ive always hated that little kid in BB. Didn't like how he popped back up and why would he give a kid a pair of very expensive goggles. Makes me wonder if batman will have white eyes through out the whole B3 movie.

 

[Two-Face]

Long as Fox is there, Batman won't use it.

 

[El Payaso]

Ive always hated that little kid in BB. Didn't like how he popped back up and why would he give a kid a pair of very expensive goggles. Makes me wonder if batman will have white eyes through out the whole B3 movie.

The kid and everything about him in BB was horrible. And I didn't find Gordon's son much better either in TDK. Robin good idea or not, it makes me afraid of seeing what Nolan could do with a star role kid in this franchise.

 

[Texas Zombie]

I would love for Batman to be a 6 part series, deserves it more than spidey after batman and robin. People love batman because they can relate to him, for starters he is human and has no special powers (superman, spiderman, and xmen). Batman is shaping up to be the next james bond. He may have multiple interpretations over the next 25 years, we might also see the death of bruce wayne or his role as batman soon. Just remember even if nolan doesn't put robin in B3 we might see him as batman soon. If robin becomes batman he has to have an origin movie. I really do not think that in B3 batman is wise enough to be the mentor to dick, jason, or tim. He hasn't encountered enough of his rouges yet. I believe nolan could have make most of batman's rogues fit into his movies(clayface and prob mr freeze won't work).

Im kinda just blabbering, but o well. haha. I just don't think in 3 robin could work. Don't get me wrong I do believe he could work in a 4th or later, but I doubt they have more.

 

[Texas Zombie]

The kid and everything about him in BB was horrible. And I didn't find Gordon's son much better either in TDK. Robin good idea or not, it makes me afraid of seeing what Nolan could do with a star role kid in this franchise.

I still don't like the idea of him being any less than 18, but 16 would have to be the minimum if anything. In one of the batman RIP books robin says he know people do not fear him like they do batman and they always underestimate him. Batman is getting better and better everytime. It really needs to be made into a 6 part series.

 

[d-roc]

Robin will pull Batman into the next evolutionary phase of his career too quickly. Batman is in his first year and doesn't yet have the sophistication needed to train a kid to be like him yet.

Robin would be a good set up for the fourth movie after we've seen Batman/Bruce learn to deal with his inner demons. Bruce has to have a reason for training Robin and it's just not there yet. Bruce has to see that he is mortal and that someone will have to take the mantle when he moves on.

We've been seeing Batman get tougher in The Dark Knight. He pummels Joker, throws Eric Roberts off the balcony and breaks his legs, but we haven't seen him get to that point where he sees himself as a monster. When he reaches that point he will see that training Dick to eventually take over is essential to the symbol of Batman becoming legend. It will motivate him to do better for Dick than he did himself, which only makes Dick angry because Bruce doesn't practice what he preaches, and eventually, leads Dick to become Nightwing.

 

[Texas Zombie]

In theory robin would have to be better than batman or have his own unique fighting style similar to batman, yet more quick and acrobatic.

 

[zenith16]

Robin will pull Batman into the next evolutionary phase of his career too quickly. Batman is in his first year and doesn't yet have the sophistication needed to train a kid to be like him yet.

Robin would be a good set up for the fourth movie after we've seen Batman/Bruce learn to deal with his inner demons. Bruce has to have a reason for training Robin and it's just not there yet. Bruce has to see that he is mortal and that someone will have to take the mantle when he moves on.

We've been seeing Batman get tougher in The Dark Knight. He pummels Joker, throws Eric Roberts off the balcony and breaks his legs, but we haven't seen him get to that point where he sees himself as a monster. When he reaches that point he will see that training Dick to eventually take over is essential to the symbol of Batman becoming legend. It will motivate him to do better for Dick than he did himself, which only makes Dick angry because Bruce doesn't practice what he preaches, and eventually, leads Dick to become Nightwing.

Robin showed up in year two in ever comic interpretation and look back at it when he entered Bob Cains books. After two face went villain.


Detectives have partners or helpers and knights have squires, before they go knights them selves. Samurais have.... well they had some thing like squires, other wise we wouldn't have some thing of that same level on star wars allegory to the knight/samurais connection.

plus there's the fact that in the dark night movie they said 6 months have passed since batman begins. so that's already nearly 2 year's there it's already close that. just let him stay dick as every one else suggested including jeph loeb and have Bruce adopt him, there's no rush to make him robin in the third. if they bother going there.

Besides I really want to see Nightwing eventually. I just want to see him.

 

[El Payaso]

I still don't like the idea of him being any less than 18, but 16 would have to be the minimum if anything. In one of the batman RIP books robin says he know people do not fear him like they do batman and they always underestimate him. Batman is getting better and better everytime. It really needs to be made into a 6 part series.

Which is why Batman shouldn't have him at his side.

 

[zenith16]

yeah well we all agree( tose of us for this) not to listen to El Payaso any more so let move on LOL. especially since we're just playing around with the idea if or not nolana use's him ( dick grason) or not. were on the fact that if it were possible some one else might after nolan's done. why he still come's ( in the hopes so he can tick some of us off) I don't know.

 

[El Payaso]

yeah well we all agree not to listen to El Payaso any more so let move on LOL.

^ Your reply is the living proof you actually do.

especially since we're just playing around with the idea if or not nolana use's him ( dick grason) or not . were on the fact that if it were possible some one else might after nolan's done.

In fact that's "Adapting Robin." This thread's title is a petition for Nolan to add Robin.

why he still come's ( in the hopes so he can tick some of us off) I don't know.

Just to play around with the idea if or not Nolan uses him (Dick Grayson) or not (sic).

For further information about my motivations PM me, don't turn this thread personal, ok?

 

[zenith16]

actually it was just to bait ya. like you've been doing to every one else. were past the argument stage with ya on this. it's time to move on.

 

[El Payaso]

actually it was just to bait ya. like you've been doing t6o every one else.

That's flattering. I could use a successor. Sons of El Payaso has begun.

 

[zenith16]

That's flattering. I could use a successor. Sons of El Payaso has begun.

mehhhhh not thanks. I have a dad already. your not him. LOl Ok back on topic.

 

[El Payaso]

so let move on

it's time to move on.

Ok back on topic.

Strike three! Time for you to listen to yourself.

 

[zenith16]

oh I did I'm done with arguing with ya mr. not my dad. as everyone else just try to get idea's out on how this should be done, and not listen to ya. LOL later.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Um, so about that Robin dude...

 

[Texas Zombie]

If nolan gets better child actors than I think he could pull of a robin.

 

[TheWrathOfGod]

Here’s my take, Batman 3 seems to be suffering from the lack of an underlying comic story to use as a foundation for a plot. Looking at the progression of modern Batman, incorporating a realistic rendition of Robin is only sensible. Now I know all of the hatred surrounding the character and bad feelings about the Schumacher films, but reinventing the character from the ground up may be a suitable solution. This is where I was thinking of taking the story:

A poor African-American inner-city kid (16 years old) named Dick Grayson and his family go to a Robin Hood movie. His parents are killed by an out of work mobster named Tony Zucco who used to deal with Sal Maroni before his demise in TDK. Batman intervenes but unfortunately Dick Grayson’s parents are killed and Zucco is arrested. Batman relates to the grieving child and the similarity of the crime to his parent’s murder, he then takes Dick to the newly built Batcave. Batman reveals his identity to Dick Grayson and starts to question his role as Gotham’s Dark Knight. With the cops on Batman’s heels, Bruce reluctantly adopts the boy and understands his urge for revenge. Continue the story ala All Stars and towards the end of the film have Robin sacrifice himself for Batman and Gotham city, thus redeeming the Dark Knight (Think Death in the Family). Also Robin shouldn’t adopt his flamboyant outfit; instead just wear a red hooded sweatshirt. Nolan needs to stress the warped psychotic relationship Batman has with Robin and establish Bruce Wayne’s inner mental illness. Killing Robin at the end of the film is the only way to keep the character at bay and use the comics as a foundation.

Robin wouldn't be his flamboyant self, just acting as a counterbalance to Bruce Wayne's war on crime. Dick Grayson sacrifices himself to redeem his parent's death. He wouldn't become a crime fighter alongside Bats, but instead a child, similar to Bruce Wayne, who did what Batman could never accomplish.

This is the easiest way to adhere to the narrative of the comics, while keeping with the tone set by the Nolan films. Hell, Burton considered putting Robin in Batman 89’, why shouldn’t Nolan give it a shot?

 

[TheWrathOfGod]

Nolan could use the character of Robin to become a martyr for Gotham City and Batman. They used Harvey Dent in the same way for TDK, so why not use the death of Robin to redeem the Batman?

 

[MovieMasters]

Robin wont be appearing Christain Bale said if they introduce Robin he quits and I couldnt agree more

 

[AnorexicBatman]

Are you telling me that Chris Nolan is a coward?
That he can't take risks?

Boo on those who say so sir!
The ultimate way to one-up most comic movie directors is to introduce a character that is generally hated by the populace and make him work

I'm sure sure Mr. Nolan is up for the challenge
Also, why Robin when we can go straight to Nightwing!

 

[TheWrathOfGod]

I think a large sum of money would change Mr. Bale's outlook on the situation.