The Dark Knight Rises Nolan...add Robin!!!!!!

Do you want to see Robin appear in a future BB movie?

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Oh I am well versed in Batman literature. However it is my preferences that have pushed me away from his convoluted mess they call a story. I have them all in my little shelf where i lend them out to people. However the black glove, rez of rahs, blah blha blha have all been AWFUL.
So you've read Morrison's work, right?
Why didnt you like it? The story that he visits that superhero team in their private island (dont remember their name. They are some superhero team from the golden age if i am not mistaken. As i said before, Morrison made everything canon) is one of my favourites. I will admit that Spire's behind was a nice treat too! If you know what i'm referring to. :cwink:
Also Knightfall was terrible and if you wanted to include some robin canon, How about Death in the Family?
I didnt like Knightfall either, but its one of the major events in Bruce's life so i put it up there. As for "Death in the Family", I hate Jason and that's why i havent read much about him.
If you are trying to say that I am unqualified to make statements you are surely mistaken, as posters in the bat forums could tell you.
You are arguing with my personal preference.
I didnt mean anything like that. But when you said that Robin has never been presented as Bruce's son... well my condescending, darker self overpowered me. My apologies.
This Batman in time storyline is gonna be remembered as one of those weird ass comic stories that was viewed as weird even by comic standards.
If done right, and by that i mean in a Brave and Bold manner, then it will be the most glorious thing that has ever happened.
Watch Brave and the Bold. First episode you'll be like:
"WTF is this ****? BTAS was so much better!"
At the second episode you'll be:
"Well at least its entertaining, but its mediocre at best"
At the third episode you'll be:
"This is the coolest thing i have ever watched!"

"Mayhem of the Music Meister", the Blue Beetle and the Aquaman episodes are pure gold. But you'll have to get into the right mood before you appreciate them. Its like smoking. Force yourself to watch 2 episodes, then you'll become addicted.
 
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I love Batman Brave and the Bold but hate Morrison....explain that? Outrageous you say?
 
Robin can be done. Give him the Tim Drake costume with a Red Robin style hood. Make him a proto-Oracle at first, something happens to Batman. Grayson freaks out and runs off to save him. He saves Bats but almost dies. Bruce scolds him but sees his potential and allows Robin to go on patrols with him. But, Robin stays at a distance and works more like a scout.

Next movie he becomes Nightwing, takes a more hands on approach at crime and leaves for Bludhaven to make his own LEGEND. Cue spin off.
 
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I love Batman Brave and the Bold but hate Morrison....explain that? Outrageous you say?
No, its not outrageous because they re not the same.
Whenever you can, please answer to the posts i wrote at the end of the previous page. I was responding to your earlier posts and i'd like to continue the dialogue.
Sorry if i wrote too much... :hehe:
 
Mr. Earle
So you've read Morrison's work, right?
Why didnt you like it? The story that he visits that superhero team in their private island (dont remember their name. They are some superhero team from the golden age if i am not mistaken. As i said before, Morrison made everything canon) is one of my favourites. I will admit that Spire's behind was a nice treat too! If you know what i'm referring to. :cwink:
Morrison's work typically puts Batman in very outlandish scenarios. It is more appropriate for a character who is from that realm. However Batman at its core was about vigilante justice. The character I've identified with Bruce is someone who takes matters into his own hands. Not some guy who fights alien demi-gods who are like fanboys. It is because of that I dislike him and his love of the silver age of Batman.
I didnt like Knightfall either, but its one of the major events in Bruce's life so i put it up there. As for "Death in the Family", I hate Jason and that's why i havent read much about him.
Knightfall is an example of an event that has become canon but is not particularly good. I liked Jason because he served a great purpose in the whole of Batman and is my favorite type of Robin. The Side-kick whose goal is to die.

I didnt mean anything like that. But when you said that Robin has never been presented as Bruce's son... well my condescending, darker self overpowered me. My apologies. If done right, and by that i mean in a Brave and Bold manner, then it will be the most glorious thing that has ever happened.
I agree, in a Brave and the Bold manner. However the Nolan films have shown they are nothing like the Brave and the Bold and introducing elements of that would be like adding salt to sugar cookie. Going against the grain.
Watch Brave and the Bold. First episode you'll be like:
"WTF is this ****? BTAS was so much better!"
At the second episode you'll be:
"Well at least its entertaining, but its mediocre at best"
At the third episode you'll be:
"This is the coolest thing i have ever watched!"

"Mayhem of the Music Meister", the Blue Beetle and the Aquaman episodes are pure gold. But you'll have to get into the right mood before you appreciate them. Its like smoking. Force yourself to watch 2 episodes, then you'll become addicted.
Love the show, but it is a show that is self-aware and is not trying to be what it is not. Morrisons writing is like Brave and the Bold if it took itself extremely serious. It is like an Eli Roth 'horror', so set on being over the top while still being serious and dark. It seldomly works.

But Batman is still human in the comics. And no, batman is definitely no borderline villain. Maybe that's how you choose to view him, but it doesnt make it correct. In fact he is the one rubbing other people's mistakes in their faces as if he is infallible. He uses violence and extreme methods but he is no borderline villain, ergo he is no Rorschach.
If batman is shown being human in the comics, he has not expressed such emotions. It is natural human progression to change and evolve. Batman has become an immovable wheel that does not progress further. There are no villains as their are no heroes, only people with different goals and motivations, creating justification for their acts. Batman deems his methods as being necessary, hence why he dawns the mask. He is stating that his brand of law and method are what are necessary not what are good. They are his definitions of good.
Bruce: Dark, sully, brooding, miserable, extremely focused, obsessive. Expert martial artist, detective and scientist. The goddamn Batman.
Dick: Lighter, focused on the mission but also having fun, enjoying life, being optimistic. Ladiesman. Expert acrobat and martial artist.
Jason: Angry, miserable, obnoxious, uncontrollable. Expert at nothing besides coming back from the dead after having his head bludgeoned with a crowbar.
Tim: Focused, a character that has dark and light in balance. He is darker than Dick but lighter than Bruce. Expert detective with Bruce himself stating that one day he would outdo him.
Damian: Son of a *****. Literally and metaphorically. Characterised by great anger, lack of manners and morality. Skilled fighter.
These character are how you described but they don't explore their motivations for their actions. I would wanna see a comic where Dick is a ladies man as a subconscious and conscious decision to prove he is better then Bruce at something

So, how are they same?
Judging by this quote and by the previous one, i have to assume that you havent read enough Robin stories. How does he not contribute when Dick helped Bruce lighten up and find his balance? When recently Bruce looked back at his early years and was very fond of the fun adventures he had with Robin. He also took a new role, that of a father and mentor. Then when Dick left him his loneliness made him take in Jason, even though he later admits that Jason wasnt ready.
Also, after Jason's death Bruce has sworn never to take another kid in, but Tim forced him to do it because he felt that Batman needs a Robin in order to keep his balance. I suppose that those issues elaborated more on why he does need a Robin.
So how do the Robins not contribute anything?
Damian is his biological son, but he hardly knows him. Dick is his true son (and later so is Tim) who he has adopted and considers his heirs and children.
And now you are forcing me to assume that you ve read no robin issues.
1) Bruce adopted Dick. It was rough at first but they eventually developed a father-son relationship.
No, they didn't Bruce developed a side-kick. Dick Grayson was not a son but a partner in his crime fighting, to "put away the criminals" If Dick became a son then it would seem that Dick would have grown and Bruce would have become the father he wanted to be like with his parents. It is like people who lose their parents at a young age and develop becoming over protective. Why was this not explored? Why was Dick's development into an adult sidetracked to him being Robin? The unreal circumstances promote his development as a side-kick NOT as a son.
2) Tim's mother was still alive (IIRC) so he didnt need adopting, but at some point Bruce adopts him to show him his love (i assume that both his parents were dead at the time). Bruce said something like: "i would be honoured if you accepted" (to be adopted) and Tim said "i know, i love you too Bruce", while accepting.
Again he does not 'adopt' Tim to be a father but to add him to arsenal of crime fighters. Fighting crime is being confused with actual parenting. Bruce has not been an actual father to these boys but a recruiter. He does not care for whats best for them as a parent should, he cares about putting them dangerous villains away as you put it.
3) Dick is treated by everyone in the DCU as Batman's son. When he is around Clark and Diana you always get the feeling that they are his uncle and ant.
I treat people younger then me as a little brother or nephew. Being addressed as a son does not qualify for being one.
4) Dick and Tim, now both adopted by Bruce are heirs to his fortune. Recently they were following a lead about a rich guy so they flew to Monaco acting as the little Waynes that they are to infiltrate the rich society there.
Then have been taught and learned nothing about life. They are spoiled brats who are just wasting money and whose value is only equated with what crime they fight. They are NOT becoming characters with values developed or learned by their 'father'.
5) At some point, Bruce became too obsessive and was about to denounce his Wayne persona and become Batman full time. Dick (he wasnt even a kid, he was Nightwing at the time) burst into tears saying "You cant do that. Where is the man that raised me? He never existed?"
That is because its true, there has never been a bruce. Because dialogue cites it, does not make it true. The only person raising these kids is Alfred. Bruce simply is raising them to be him. The best comic not beating around the bush about it is All-Star Batman.
No, its not outrageous because they re not the same.
Whenever you can, please answer to the posts i wrote at the end of the previous page. I was responding to your earlier posts and i'd like to continue the dialogue.
Sorry if i wrote too much... :hehe:
Then it should be noted that liking Batman Brave and The Bold does not equal Grant Morrison's writing and if I or someone else doesn't like Grant Morrison to use Brave and the Bold as an example to why outrageous and far-fetched incidents should be accepted within a story by Morrison.

Ya, its ok just busy writing essays to multiquote and form a response.
 
Mr. EarleMorrison's work typically puts Batman in very outlandish scenarios. It is more appropriate for a character who is from that realm. However Batman at its core was about vigilante justice. The character I've identified with Bruce is someone who takes matters into his own hands. Not some guy who fights alien demi-gods who are like fanboys. It is because of that I dislike him and his love of the silver age of Batman.
As i said, during most of Morrison's Batman run, he was up against street level villains, ninjas, Ras, the Joker, and fake Batmen. He only fought Darkseid in Final Crisis, a major event of the DCU. That story i was talking about is Batman visiting a team of Superheroes that come from all over the world and who have been inspired by him. So you have an English bat-knight, an Indian Bat-warrior, etc. Their base is a mansion on an island and Batman visits them for their anniversary (iirc). So during that visit, there is a killer loose in the mansion, picking off the heroes one at a time. It was a classic mystery story of whodonnit. It was great. So no alien monsters...
Knightfall is an example of an event that has become canon but is not particularly good. I liked Jason because he served a great purpose in the whole of Batman and is my favorite type of Robin. The Side-kick whose goal is to die.
It was? I dont think so. Btw, in Battle for the Cowl, Jason reappeared, stealing the mantle and becoming a gun yielding batman, executing evil doers. For the first time I liked him!
I agree, in a Brave and the Bold manner. However the Nolan films have shown they are nothing like the Brave and the Bold and introducing elements of that would be like adding salt to sugar cookie. Going against the grain.
I never implied that the Nolan movies should be like Brave and the Bold. Nobody would understand and go see "those cheesy movies". I thought we were talking about Morrison and what's currently going on in the bat-books.
Love the show, but it is a show that is self-aware and is not trying to be what it is not. Morrisons writing is like Brave and the Bold if it took itself extremely serious. It is like an Eli Roth 'horror', so set on being over the top while still being serious and dark. It seldomly works.
Morrison's work is not as over the top and campy as BatB. Its only a bit more outlandish than the average Batman stories. Besides, as i said, before RIP, its pretty grounded to reality, and only a bit outlandish. Its certainly very fresh. The fake Batmen story was another great read.
If batman is shown being human in the comics, he has not expressed such emotions. It is natural human progression to change and evolve. Batman has become an immovable wheel that does not progress further.
I disagree. During Morrison's run, i saw him broken, torn, in despair, then regroup and refocus, daydream about his past and good old days, sensing his end coming closer, saying goodbye to Alfred postmortem with a tape he had made (he had even prepared for that), etc. Man i was in tears when he called Alfred his father. :waa:
These character are how you described but they don't explore their motivations for their actions. I would wanna see a comic where Dick is a ladies man as a subconscious and conscious decision to prove he is better then Bruce at something
Why would he need a reason? He likes the ladies. Besides, Dick always thought of Bruce as his father so he never wanted to beat him or be him. When he died, Dick was firm that nobody should take up the mantle because nobody could be him. Eventually he had to take the mantle himself.
No, they didn't Bruce developed a side-kick. Dick Grayson was not a son but a partner in his crime fighting, to "put away the criminals" If Dick became a son then it would seem that Dick would have grown and Bruce would have become the father he wanted to be like with his parents.
Ask anyone, Dick is Bruce's son. Bruce cant be like his father, because he isnt normal. The batfamily is the closest batman will ever come to having a real family.
It is like people who lose their parents at a young age and develop becoming over protective. Why was this not explored? Why was Dick's development into an adult sidetracked to him being Robin? The unreal circumstances promote his development as a side-kick NOT as a son.
I dont know why they didnt take that route. But just because they took another development route, it doesnt mean that Dick isnt his son.
Again he does not 'adopt' Tim to be a father but to add him to arsenal of crime fighters. Fighting crime is being confused with actual parenting. Bruce has not been an actual father to these boys but a recruiter. He does not care for whats best for them as a parent should, he cares about putting them dangerous villains away as you put it.
1) Tim had already been Robin for a long time before Bruce offered to adopt him, so he didnt do it to recruit him. He was already recruited.
2) Bruce was very sentimental in that scene and he said something like: "i feel this way, and i would be honoured if you accept me". Then Tim replies "i know, i love you too Bruce", implying that Bruce was basically telling him that he loved him, only Bruce being Bruce would never say things like that.
Then have been taught and learned nothing about life. They are spoiled brats who are just wasting money and whose value is only equated with what crime they fight. They are NOT becoming characters with values developed or learned by their 'father'.
You are jumping to conclusions without having read the material. They dont go around wasting Bruce's fortune. They were investigating a Sheik who was staying in Monaco at the time. So they went there to play at the casino, and try to get close to him and his social circle. Its just like Bond poses as a banker, or businessman to get close to his targets. Only in this case they were posing as themselves. As Bruce's kids.
That is because its true, there has never been a bruce. Because dialogue cites it, does not make it true. The only person raising these kids is Alfred. Bruce simply is raising them to be him.
Bruce is too obsessed to have a real family and a real social life. Being Wayne (and i mean the socialite, playboy, businessman) is a job/obligation to him. But they had to give him a family just like every other superhero has one. So they gave him Alfred, Robin, Batgirl, etc. Its the only way he can have one, its the only way he can raise a kid. Watch this from the start till 1:30.
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The best comic not beating around the bush about it is All-Star Batman.
Which is not canon and it depicts a barely sane Batman who loves to break bones, make fun of other superheroes and makes Robin eat the mice in the cave. :whatever:
Then it should be noted that liking Batman Brave and The Bold does not equal Grant Morrison's writing and if I or someone else doesn't like Grant Morrison to use Brave and the Bold as an example to why outrageous and far-fetched incidents should be accepted within a story by Morrison.
Morrison is a lot less outrageous than Brave and the Bold, but this story about Batman traveling through time and becoming a caveman, a pirate, etc reminds me a lot of BatB. I was just trying to convert Terry to the outrageous version of batman.
 
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No...No...No....Robin has no place in ANY future batman film...I blame the introduction of Robin for the downfall of the previous franchise.

I mean...a man in his thirties who isn't married, running around with a teenage boy....just not right!!!!
 
Robin can easily work. The comics made him work. BTAS made him work (Both Dick and Tim). A decent script can make him work in Nolan's movies, too.

And I certainly don't blame Robin for the downfall of the previous franchise. That was down to the over the top camp that Schumacher did. Some of the best scenes in Batman Forever revolved around Dick Grayson.
 
I mean...a man in his thirties who isn't married, running around with a teenage boy....just not right!!!!

Because everybody is a pedophile right? You know what? Without Bruce, Dick or Tim might have fallen in with a real pedo. Gotham is hell. Being with Batman is the least of many evils.
 
You were obviously watching a different "special directors cut" as altho I agree with you that they were overly camp....bringing Robin in really upped the camp and slightly creepy factor.

But maybe you like that kind of thing????

eEnquiring minds want to know!!
 
Robin can easily work. The comics made him work. BTAS made him work (Both Dick and Tim). A decent script can make him work in Nolan's movies, too.

And I certainly don't blame Robin for the downfall of the previous franchise. That was down to the over the top camp that Schumacher did. Some of the best scenes in Batman Forever revolved around Dick Grayson.
I agree 100% :up:
 
No, not everone is a pedo, but I am a man in his thirties....and I don't run around with teenagers.....and I don't know how to break this to you...but Gotham isn't real!!!! Sorry
 
No, not everone is a pedo, but I am a man in his thirties....and I don't run around with teenagers.....and I don't know how to break this to you...but Gotham isn't real!!!! Sorry

I agree. I just think it would come across the wrong way in a movie.
 
Robin can easily work. The comics made him work. BTAS made him work. A decent script can make him work in Nolan's movies, too.

And I certainly don't blame Robin for the downfall of the previous franchise. That was down to the over the top camp that Schumacher did. Some of the best scenes in Batman Forever revolved around Dick Grayson.

Agreed.

Have to admit though, I was never really a fan of Robin. In fact every comic I've read with him in it has made me despise the character.

Until . . .

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BATMAN: The Animated Series

Say all you want about how "unrealistic" it would be for Batman to have a son/partner but the series really showed how it can and should be done.

For those not in the know (and if that's the case you're really missing out), Robin doesn't begin his war on crime until he's an adult. Grayson makes makes his first apperance in Batman's relatively early career but doesn't fight, again, UNTIL he's an adult. Wayne takes Grayson in as his ward/son when he witnesses the brutal murder of parents. After seeing how similar Dick is with his thirst for revenge and justice he reveals his alter ego to the boy.

Through years of training (the same training that Wayne endured) it was time for Grayson to finally put his mask on. Batman didn't endanger a child's life by taking in a kid having him risk his life every night. He saw someone he could relate to, took him in and guided him. The reason Robin isn't as "dark" or brooding as Batman is because his mentor didn't have the same experience when he was younger. Wayne had the same "guide" with Alfred but not to the same degree. Bruce had to find his own way of "dealing with the pain" by going off alone(travelling the world). So yeah, Robin should always be "lighter" than Batman but NOT to the degree where he isn't viewed as dangerous or intimidating. We have to remember here that Robin, no matter what story, is trained by Batman himself. That anger and determination would definitely find it's way into Grayson.

What people miss is that Batman and Robin share the same tragedy. Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson's lives are distinctly similar.

Grayson becomes Robin as an adult and isn't even Batman's full time partner. Nolan and Co. always claim that the only way they progress the story is if there's a challenge and a satisfying story to be told. Nolan could definitely tackle the challenge that is Robin. BTAS did it in such a believable way that I'm sure it could be done in live action.

Anyone who writes the Dick Grayson/Robin off as homosexual, lame and unneeded hasn't seen BTAS.

Batman should definitely be the lone avenger of the night in his early years but there's going to have to be a time where Robin comes in to complete the story just as Gordon, The Joker, and other characters.

If Robin is to be done in a serious and realistic matter there has to be a film where Wayne takes a child in, apprehends the murderer of the child's parents, relates to child, thinks about how similar they are, contemplates the dangers of this child becoming distraught, violent and mentally ill as he gets older and decides to train him and guide him so he doesn't end up like the victims that end up becoming his enemies.

If this is still the "Nolanverse" then the sequel to that film above can have the young adult Grayson, now ready to take the path that Wayne chose years before after being guided by the criminal element and training with Ras Al Ghul and the League of Shadows. Still his own man.

For Robin to work he has to be a young adult (Batman Forever got this right), the murder of his parents has to be just as emotional and violent as Wayne's, the kid Grayson must be vengeful and angry as Wayne was in Begins, and he can't be overly corny.

He's essentially Batman's son after all. To knock him off as unnecessary is down right wrong.

If the live action Robin looks like his ridiculous comic counter part, doesn't have pants (never understood that one), is a young kid and serves as comic relief, forget it, Batman should fight by himself forever.

Until then it'll get old seeing Batman go up against villian # whatever in future sequels. Not only is the Robin character important to itself, it's also important for the Batman character. Through Robin, Batman can be reminded why he does what he does in the first place.

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Agreed.

Have to admit though, I was never really a fan of Robin. In fact every comic I've read with him in it has made me despise the character.

Until . . .

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BATMAN: The Animated Series

Say all you want about how "unrealistic" it would be for Batman to have a son/partner but the series really showed how it can and should be done.

For those not in the know (and if that's the case you're really missing out), Robin doesn't begin his war on crime until he's an adult. Grayson makes makes his first apperance in Batman's relatively early career but doesn't fight, again, UNTIL he's an adult. Wayne takes Grayson in as his ward/son when he witnesses the brutal murder of parents. After seeing how similar Dick is with his thirst for revenge and justice he reveals his alter ego to the boy.

Through years of training (the same training that Wayne endured) it was time for Grayson to finally put his mask on. Batman didn't endanger a child's life by taking in a kid having him risk his life every night. He saw someone he could relate to, took him in and guided him. The reason Robin isn't as "dark" or brooding as Batman is because his mentor didn't have the same experience when he was younger. Wayne had the same "guide" with Alfred but not to the same degree. Bruce had to find his own way of "dealing with the pain" by going off alone(travelling the world). So yeah, Robin should always be "lighter" than Batman but NOT to the degree where he isn't viewed as dangerous or intimidating. We have to remember here that Robin, no matter what story, is trained by Batman himself. That anger and determination would definitely find it's way into Grayson.

What people miss is that Batman and Robin share the same tragedy. Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson's lives are distinctly similar.

Grayson becomes Robin as an adult and isn't even Batman's full time partner. Nolan and Co. always claim that the only way they progress the story is if there's a challenge and a satisfying story to be told. Nolan could definitely tackle the challenge that is Robin. BTAS did it in such a believable way that I'm sure it could be done in live action.

Anyone who writes the Dick Grayson/Robin off as homosexual, lame and unneeded hasn't seen BTAS.

Batman should definitely be the lone avenger of the night in his early years but there's going to have to be a time where Robin comes in to complete the story just as Gordon, The Joker, and other characters.

If Robin is to be done in a serious and realistic matter there has to be a film where Wayne takes a child in, apprehends the murderer of the child's parents, relates to child, thinks about how similar they are, contemplates the dangers of this child becoming distraught, violent and mentally ill as he gets older and decides to train him and guide him so he doesn't end up like the victims that end up becoming his enemies.

If this is still the "Nolanverse" then the sequel to that film above can have the young adult Grayson, now ready to take the path that Wayne chose years before after being guided by the criminal element and training with Ras Al Ghul and the League of Shadows. Still his own man.

For Robin to work he has to be a young adult (Batman Forever got this right), the murder of his parents has to be just as emotional and violent as Wayne's, the kid Grayson must be vengeful and angry as Wayne was in Begins, and he can't be overly corny.

He's essentially Batman's son after all. To knock him off as unnecessary is down right wrong.

If the live action Robin looks like his ridiculous comic counter part, doesn't have pants (never understood that one), is a young kid and serves as comic relief, forget it, Batman should fight by himself forever.

Until then it'll get old seeing Batman go up against villian # whatever in future sequels. Not only is the Robin character important to itself, it's also important for the Batman character. Through Robin, Batman can be reminded why he does what he does in the first place.

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You make a good argument. I'm one of those who don't want Robin in this series even though I am a fan of the character. I would be willing to see the inclusion of Grayson in the fashion that you described in the next movie as long as Robin didn't appear. I would like to see their relationship modeled after Road to Perdition.
 
I would like to see their relationship modeled after Road to Perdition.

And there you go. That's a fantastic idea. I don't see how people could diss a realistic, serious, emotional and touching interpretation of Dick Grayson and then the eventual Robin.

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Nolan did wonders for the Joker with his "realistic" approach. He could do it for Robin with brilliant writing. I could just see a similar teaser poster for a Batman film with Batman and a young Dick Grayson in his shadow.
 
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For those not in the know (and if that's the case you're really missing out), Robin doesn't begin his war on crime until he's an adult. Grayson makes makes his first apperance in Batman's relatively early career but doesn't fight, again, UNTIL he's an adult.
Not really. He hadnt even gone to college when he was Robin, so he must have been under 18. At some point during the series he leaves Gotham to go to college and later on he becomes Nightwing.

That said, 15-17 is a pretty good age for Robin.
 
Robin, has no place in a Batman movie made by Chris Nolan....Period.

Robin sucks b*lls.
 
Not really. He hadnt even gone to college when he was Robin, so he must have been under 18. At some point during the series he leaves Gotham to go to college and later on he becomes Nightwing.

That said, 15-17 is a pretty good age for Robin.

In BTAS, Dick quits being Robin right after he graduates from college.
 
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