The Dark Knight Rises Nolan...add Robin!!!!!!

[Majik1387]

In the DC Comics Encyclopedia it reads:

The Riddler:
Real Name: Edward Nigma (née Edward Nashton).

"Née" is a French word that means "born". It's a term that refers to the name a person was born with. Edward Nigma was BORN Edward Nashton but has since changed his name to assume the alias, Edward E. Nygma, Edward Nigma, and The Riddler.

-R

Okay. I still don't find the site any more reliable than regular Wikipedia.

 

[Robin91939]

Okay. I still don't find the site any more reliable than regular Wikipedia.

The DC Comics Encyclopedia isn't a website. It's a book published BY DC Comics.

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-R

 

[Majik1387]

I didn't say that was the website. The "Okay" part of my post was referring to your reference of the DC Encyclopedia. The rest of my post was in reference to the earlier post regarding the DC Wiki site.



can't believe I had to breakdown a simple post...

 

[Robin91939]

I didn't say that was the website. The "Okay" part of my post was referring to your reference of the DC Encyclopedia. The rest of my post was in reference to the earlier post regarding the DC Wiki site.



can't believe I had to breakdown a simple post...

There is no need to get condescending, I could just as easily say that I "can't believe I had to break down something simple like the Riddler's real name..."

-R

 

[Alex Logan]

Thanks for the second part, lol.

I know he's never been a killer, well not a cold blooded one, in the comics. But he has committed crimes and is so narcissistic that he can't help but to leave a clue at the seen incriminating himself (to those savvy enough to decipher it...usually only the Batman can).

His motivation would be to further incriminate the Batman to keep the police and Batman busy, by having the police continue hunting him and Batman continuing to run. This would allow him to be more able to take over the crime in Gotham City. This way, we can combine the Riddler of current comics, where he is portrayed as a reformed private investigator who helps the law, and the Riddler of a story like Hush, where he is the mastermind behind it all. I want to see him as an investigator brought in by the police to discover Batman's identity. While spending his time at GCPD he uses their resources and his proximity and intimacy with certain officers to easily get close to them and to commit the murders and leave the evidence that implicates the Batman.

Only the Batman, when putting all the clues together can see that there is a larger scheme at work here, and discovers clues that allow him to know that this killer, this Riddler, is the true culprit but that he has intimate knowledge of what happened to Harvey Dent.

-R

Your welcome.

You've got some very interesting ideas there. I could see them being developed into a great story.

urm, also... it was not a good idea to kill two - face because he ends up becoming robin's nemesis when in the comics he almost beats him to death.

silly nolan.

Not evey thing has to be as it was in the comics.

Silly poster.

The DC Comics Encyclopedia isn't a website. It's a book published BY DC Comics.

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-R

I read that website and a few things are from official sources, but there's no disputing the great encyclopedia.

IT KNOWS ALL!

IT SEES ALL!

IT IS ALL!!!

t:

Just give up man, some people refuse to believe what's right in front of them.

 

[J.R.]

I would like to see Robin, but only if they could (miraculously) keep the same tone as the first two films.

 

[Adrian89]

If Robin is to be in it, don't get a 12 or 13 year old to play him, that would be just LOL!

Choose someone around Robin's age in the '90s Batman Movies (18-19 or older). But I rather not have him in Nolan's Movies!

 

[Jacobhiggins]

I wouldn't be against Robin being in it, have it done in a believable way though. Maybe not even have him in a suite but just a young screwed up kid that Bruce takes in, he finds out about Bruce's secrete or Bruce see's himself in the boy and begins to train him how Raz trained him. I think that could work and not be hokey at all. Robin wouldn't be in the tights and would not be fighting crime with him on the streets, but would be back at the headquarters/bat cave taking orders from Alfred when Batman needed assistance.

If they decided to make more movies than you could flesh out Robin with each movie. It could start out as a teacher/student relationship ,than turn into mutual respect from teacher to student, than true friendship, but to do all that I think it should be spanned out in a whole bunch of movies. I think that would be pretty cool actually!

 

[Doc Holliday]

I'm pretty sure as far as Nolan will go with Robin is the kid in BB that was wearing red and green every time he's seen in the movie. That was a nod to the character. That's all that's gonna happen.

 

[Texas Zombie]

The DC Comics Encyclopedia isn't a website. It's a book published BY DC Comics.

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-R

The Nerd Bible. I own it. It's ok.

 

[Mantis Rapture]

I would like to see Robin, but only if they could (miraculously) keep the same tone as the first two films.

Same here, bruv. In my head i can see an awesome story playing across a couple of films about the birth of Robin.

But i can't see it happening. I mean, what age would they go with? Too young and it'd just be stupid, too old and you'ld alienate the fans.

I could see them maybe bringing Dick Grayson into the films, but not Robin. I'd like to see a more human side of Bruce Wayne, and i could see a good story developing around Bruce hunting down Dick's parents killers - the lines of reality blurring for Bruce, taking the anger from his own parents deaths and focusing it onto the Grayson's murderers. Maybe have Bruce witness the incedent like in All Star Batman and Robin (and that would be the only thing i'd take from that insane comic into the films) and have it really bring those emotions back from when he was a kid.

I'd like to see that connection between Bruce and Dick (that just sounds wrong) building up to a point Bruce can really trust Dick with his secret and begin his training as a replacement for himself in the future or should anything bad happen to him, but have Dick forced into action at an early age.

For me, it's a matter of maintaining the tone from the first films. If they can't find a way to do it, i'd rather they don't

 

[Texas Zombie]

I would like to Bruce more and more as he is in the comics. He should bottle up his emotions on front of people, I would like to see him more calm and collected.

 

[GhostPoet]

I don't think even Nolan could make Robin cool.

 

[terry78]

Let's just bring on Red Robin instead and call it a night.

 

[Majik1387]

Well, Nolan has yet to make Batman cooler than he already was, so that's not saying much.

 

[Kane]

Thanks for the second part, lol.

I know he's never been a killer, well not a cold blooded one, in the comics. But he has committed crimes and is so narcissistic that he can't help but to leave a clue at the seen incriminating himself (to those savvy enough to decipher it...usually only the Batman can).

His motivation would be to further incriminate the Batman to keep the police and Batman busy, by having the police continue hunting him and Batman continuing to run. This would allow him to be more able to take over the crime in Gotham City. This way, we can combine the Riddler of current comics, where he is portrayed as a reformed private investigator who helps the law, and the Riddler of a story like Hush, where he is the mastermind behind it all. I want to see him as an investigator brought in by the police to discover Batman's identity. While spending his time at GCPD he uses their resources and his proximity and intimacy with certain officers to easily get close to them and to commit the murders and leave the evidence that implicates the Batman.

Only the Batman, when putting all the clues together can see that there is a larger scheme at work here, and discovers clues that allow him to know that this killer, this Riddler, is the true culprit but that he has intimate knowledge of what happened to Harvey Dent.

-R

Uh, are you guys thinking of the same Riddler as I am? Because the Riddler has killed people. A cold blooded killer.

As for Robin? I don't see how he can't fit into Nolan's films. Maybe not one he directs, but if they choose to continue the series after a third film, they can have Robin. There's potential. I think they should let the franchise simmer a few years before doing it. Let Bruce Wayne get older. Mature a bit more.

 

[Texas Zombie]

I wouldn't call the riddler cold blooded. He's like the vanilla ice of killers

 

[Kane]

In "Dark Knight, Dark City" there's a part where Riddler is holding two security guards hostage. One is tied up to a chair, and the other has a noose around his neck and is standing on top of a stack of books. Out of nowhere, and for no reason other than out of boredom, Riddler shoots the guard tied to a chair in the head. That is cold blooded. On top of that, when Batman arrives, he knocks over the stack of books that the guard with the noose around his neck was standing on, and even though Batman saved him, the guard severed his spinal cord. I don't see how that is not cold blooded. Not to mention The Riddler leaves an innocent infant in the road for Batman to run over, and almost does.

 

[COMPO]

why'd he have them like that? was it some kind of death trap and it was taking too long?

 

[Texas Zombie]

That taboo, for serial killer thats nothing. There's way worse people on the TV show "Most Evil". It is very good.

 

[Kane]

But that still makes The Riddler pretty cold blooded.

As for why had them like that? All part if a bigger plan. He was waiting for Batman to come. He sent out a messenger to deliver a riddle to Batman. He killed the guard tied to a chair while he was waiting. Then, when Batman came, he delivered a riddle, and kicked away the stack of books, and the guard with the noose fell and severed his spinal cord. You should definitely check out the story. It's awesome.

 

[Texas Zombie]

But that still makes The Riddler pretty cold blooded.

As for why had them like that? All part if a bigger plan. He was waiting for Batman to come. He sent out a messenger to deliver a riddle to Batman. He killed the guard tied to a chair while he was waiting. Then, when Batman came, he delivered a riddle, and kicked away the stack of books, and the guard with the noose fell and severed his spinal cord. You should definitely check out the story. It's awesome.

I'll prob check it out thanks for the suggestion.

 

[Kane]

Yeah, I'm not sure if there's a TPB of some sort, but it's Batman issues #452-454.

 

[Alex Logan]

Well, Nolan has yet to make Batman cooler than he already was, so that's not saying much.

Now that's just not true.

 

[Majik1387]

Nah, Nolan and Bale haven't done anything to Batman to make him any cooler than he already was.