Not Proud Of My Race

[VigilanteArtist]

How is survival of the fittest beneficial to evolution? What if all the human genes that allow compassion and ultruism are weeded out by evolution? Who would want to live in a world where humans are incapable of compassion or ultruism? Do you consider that progress?

Umm...

There is no "compassion gene."

And how is survival of the fittest beneficial to evolution? Do you not see how they correlate with one another?

 

[Mr. Walters]

I don't want to be out of line here, but isn't someone who has a problem with thei own race...well...racist? Like I said, SS I don't want to be out of line but do you see how you are still part of the problem? It seems to me that you are racist toward white people.

Me, I'm proud of my race, and I don't feel that I should have to appologize for that. As a straight, white, male I am everyone's devil (that's a joke) and get no parades of my own. Perhaps though, one day. A white pride or straight pride parade...

 

[deemar325]

It's called a Clan rally Mr. Walters

 

[blind_fury]

Umm...

There is no "compassion gene."

And how is survival of the fittest beneficial to evolution? Do you not see how they correlate with one another?

Well it's a possiblity that the human part of the brain that allows compassion and altruism will become numb after thousands of years of being unused.

Survival of the fittest only implies that the strong are the best for our future. It has no moral compass or guidelines.

 

[blind_fury]

I don't want to be out of line here, but isn't someone who has a problem with thei own race...well...racist? Like I said, SS I don't want to be out of line but do you see how you are still part of the problem? It seems to me that you are racist toward white people.

Me, I'm proud of my race, and I don't feel that I should have to appologize for that. As a straight, white, male I am everyone's devil (that's a joke) and get no parades of my own. Perhaps though, one day. A white pride or straight pride parade...

When white, straight people have been opressed for hundreds of years by blacks and gays then you can have a parade. ok?

 

[Kevin]

I would never chage my race. What would that exactly do for me? nothing because there will always be stupid people out there who only care about race, and by changing my race, i would be one of them.

Although, if I could change it I would be Hispanic... they are HOT!

 

[heypapajinx]

Yeah.. I'm not proud of my race either... Stupid humans

once I learn how to alter my DNA I'm so turning Vulcan

don't worry.
according to Tom Cruise you're NOT human!
you're from the planet Xenu, therefor, a Xenuian.
Xenan?
Xena!?!?!

oh AWESOME! scientology rwaks! it preaches that we're all Lucy Lawless... deep down inside.
so can't we all just get along?

 

[VigilanteArtist]

Well it's a possiblity that the human part of the brain that allows compassion and altruism will become numb after thousands of years of being unused.

Survival of the fittest only implies that the strong are the best for our future. It has no moral compass or guidelines.

I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure I agree with it. If anything, I'd say humanity has become more compassionate throughout history, which comes in conflict with your theory. I mean, the idea of racial equality has been truly alien throughout most of our history, and is still a rather unkown idea throughout many (mostly non-white) nations.

And if your theory is correct, then why is it that white countries (who are supposedly the "most racist") more accepting of different cultures than many Asian and African countries? I'm white, and I have no problem admitting that we've been pretty goddamn successful at persecuting others (more successful than other races at least), so, according to your theory, it'd be safe to hypothesize that we'd evolve to be less compassionate, right? But in fact, we are probably the most "non-racist" race on the planet right now, judging by modern global culture.

 

[deemar325]

Danger Will Robinson!! Danger...!

 

[blind_fury]

I see what you're saying, but I'm not sure I agree with it. If anything, I'd say humanity has become more compassionate throughout history, which comes in conflict with your theory. I mean, the idea of racial equality has been truly alien throughout most of our history, and is still a rather unkown idea throughout many (mostly non-white) nations.

And if your theory is correct, then why is it that white countries (who are supposedly the "most racist") more accepting of different cultures than many Asian and African countries? I'm white, and I have no problem admitting that we've been pretty goddamn successful at persecuting others (more successful than other races at least), so, according to your theory, it'd be safe to hypothesize that we'd evolve to be less compassionate, right? But in fact, we are probably the most "non-racist" race on the planet right now, judging by modern global culture.

What black or Asian controlled country has ever had anything as racist as the apartied or jim crow?

 

[Mr Sparkle]

What black or Asian controlled country has ever had anything as racist as the apartied or jim crow?

dude, In africa they have slaughtered each other based on tribal divisions.
rwanda was based on a vague sense of "race"

In Japan there are stores that foreigners can't go to.


yeah...uh.....no

 

[VigilanteArtist]

What black or Asian controlled country has ever had anything as racist as the apartied or jim crow?

I'm not denying that Apartheid and Jim Crow (among other things) were truly disgusting. In fact, I admitted in my post that whites had been "successful" at persecuting others.

I was merely arguing that your theory concerning evolution is, in my opinion (as it's impossible to prove), incorrect.

Yes, whites have commited atrocities, yet today, judging by global culture, we are the least racist group of people.

So I'm having trouble understanding your most recent post. Are you agreeing with me? I know my ancestors commited their fair share of atrocities.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Yes, whites have commited atrocities, yet today, judging by global culture, we are the least racist group of people.

wouldn't go that far though.

 

[heypapajinx]

Yes, whites have commited atrocities, yet today, judging by global culture, we are the least racist group of people.

*falls on the floor laughing*

theres no need to be racist when nothing can dislogde your elitism​

it's like being a millionaire and losing your wallet KNOWING there was only a $5 bill inside

 

[VigilanteArtist]

What black or Asian controlled country has ever had anything as racist as the apartied or jim crow?

And another thing: Why do you think Apartheid ended? Because of pressure put on South Africa by WHITE nations and, especially, corporations.

And I suggest you research South Africa's current situation. It's not pretty, and many people claim that the high murder rate is "revenge" against the whites for Apartheid. Whether or not that's true, when thousands of white farmers and their families are being killed every year by so-called "revolutionaries" (small-minded pieces of crap might be a better term), there is absolutely no room for understanding. Blaming South Africa's situation on Apartheid isn't an excuse, and it certainly isn't a solution.

 

[blind_fury]

dude, In africa they have slaughtered each other based on tribal divisions.
rwanda was based on a vague sense of "race"

Funny enough those tribal differences where exploited by Europeans(Belgians) for the sake of imperialism. The made the Tutsi's the ruling class for decades. The genocide probably would have never happened without western influences.

In Japan there are stores that foreigners can't go to.


yeah...uh.....no

Are you comparing a few Japanese exclusive clubs and bars to Jim Crow and Apartied. Nice try but no.

 

[deemar325]

And another thing: Why do you think Apartheid ended? Because of pressure put on South Africa by WHITE nations and, especially, corporations.

And I suggest you research South Africa's current situation. It's not pretty, and many people claim that the high murder rate is "revenge" against the whites for Apartheid. Whether or not that's true, when thousands of white farmers and their families are being killed every year by so-called "revolutionaries" (small-minded pieces of crap might be a better term), there is absolutely no room for understanding. Blaming South Africa's situation on Apartheid isn't an excuse, and it certainly isn't a solution.

That kinda says it all, it wasn't to 'save those poor Negroes' but commerce Money.

 

[blind_fury]

I'm not denying that Apartheid and Jim Crow (among other things) were truly disgusting. In fact, I admitted in my post that whites had been "successful" at persecuting others.

I was merely arguing that your theory concerning evolution is, in my opinion (as it's impossible to prove), incorrect.

Yes, whites have commited atrocities, yet today, judging by global culture, we are the least racist group of people.

So I'm having trouble understanding your most recent post. Are you agreeing with me? I know my ancestors commited their fair share of atrocities.

First off, evolution takes tens of thousands of years to change humans on a genetic level.

Secondly, western societies have equality laws as a result of past injustices that needed to be rectified.

Thirdly, to say there's more black and asian supremacy groups or ideology today than white supremacy is ridiculous.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

Funny enough those tribal differences where exploited by Europeans(Belgians) for the sake of imperialism. The made the Tutsi's the ruling class for decades. The genocide probably would have never happened without western influences.

yeah, regardless...it was them doing it.

Are you comparing a few Japanese exclusive clubs and bars to Jim Crow and Apartied. Nice try but no.

no , I'm not comparing it, but there are stores, not just clubs and many places where foreigners are not accepted.
racism happens EVERYWHERE to everyone.
that was my point.
the degree depends on the circumstances.

 

[deemar325]

Funny enough those tribal differences where exploited by Europeans(Belgians) for the sake of imperialism. The made the Tutsi's the ruling class for decades. The genocide probably would have never happened without western influences.


Are you comparing a few Japanese exclusive clubs and bars to Jim Crow and Apartied. Nice try but no.

So true on that one.

 

[VigilanteArtist]

*falls on the floor laughing*

theres no need to be racist when nothing can dislogde your elitism
​

it's like being a millionaire and losing your wallet KNOWING there was only a $5 bill inside

*Sigh*

Yes, I KNOW. I agree with you.

I was just pointing out why Blind Fury's theory was probably not correct. In case you haven't read the thread, his contention was that wars based on persecution of race (or wars in general) would lead to a decrease in compassion for other races.

Anyways, your above post is based on looking at modern culture from a sociological perspective, while we are looking at it from a biological perpective.

 

[blind_fury]

And another thing: Why do you think Apartheid ended? Because of pressure put on South Africa by WHITE nations and, especially, corporations.

And I suggest you research South Africa's current situation. It's not pretty, and many people claim that the high murder rate is "revenge" against the whites for Apartheid. Whether or not that's true, when thousands of white farmers and their families are being killed every year by so-called "revolutionaries" (small-minded pieces of crap might be a better term), there is absolutely no room for understanding. Blaming South Africa's situation on Apartheid isn't an excuse, and it certainly isn't a solution.

I'm pretty sure anyone who kills a white farmer is hunted down like a criminal. You can't really compare that to institutional racism like Jim Crow or the Apartied.

 

[heypapajinx]

Anyways, your above post is based on looking at modern culture from a sociological perspective, while we are looking at it from a biological perpective.

ahhh!!
biology huh?
well then, i deem the Venus Fly Trap the Napoleon of the plant kingdom!
they don't discriminate... they're just hungry.
HUNGRY FOR ABSOLUTE POWER THAT IS!!​

 

[The Riddler]

being white has its perks.

the kkk will have no problem with you and you can become president.

 

[VigilanteArtist]

First off, evolution takes tens of thousands of years to change humans on a genetic level.

Secondly, western societies have equality laws as a result of past injustices that needed to be rectified.

Thirdly, to say there's more black and asian supremacy groups or ideology today than white supremacy is ridiculous.

Yes, I know that evolution takes time. But aren't we talking about war in general, instead of war based solely on racism?

War has existed for tens of thousands of years, yet I believe humanity has improved since then.

And whether you want to believe it or not, racism is practically an institution in many non-white countries.




So let's look at it from another perspective, shall we?

I contend that modern Western white nations are more accepting of other cultures than any other group of people in the world. And most educated people would agree with me (sorry if you do not). Perhaps this IS the result of wars based on prejudice, NOT because we killed others in the name of racism, but because our incredibly aggressive foreign policy actually PROTECTED white women in children in the homeland. Thereby the least aggressive, were, in fact, protected, leading to a more peaceful society in the future!

On the other hand, in countries where non-whites were persecuted by whites, it was the exact opposite. Only the strong and agressive survived. The weak were thrown out. Leading to a less accepting future society.

*By the way, I'm only hypothesizing.