Nothing Can Stop The Klaw! - Andy Serkis As Ulysses Klaw

[KevTravels]

This is just wrong on both accounts.

The director of Wonder Woman made it a point to tell fans who had concerns that Themyscira would be racially diverse

And I don't know what rock you were living under where you could have possibly missed the "Political demands" being placed on the Wonder Woman film. At one point the U.N. was going to make Wonder Woman an honorary Ambassador for the Empowerment of Women and Girls

And I'm not even going to waste my energy posting any links to articles about the Wonder Woman film (and it's success) being important because there are literally thousands of them that you can easily find.

If you don't care about the larger meaning of a Black Panther film that's fine, but stop going from thread to thread lecturing Black people about being "entitled", "demanding", and telling us how we should feel about the movie.

You're acting as if the filmmakers themselves don't realize the importance of the film

Kevin Feige:



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Black Panther will be the FIRST film with a predominantly black cast, black director, black screenwriter, and black executive producer to receive a $100+ budget and be treated as a studio tent pole film. That has NEVER happened before, so yeah, people are going to be very invested in the film and it's success, because of what it could possibly mean for black people in film moving forward.

Like I said, if you don't care about any of that stuff that's fine, just stop with the condescending lectures to black people about how we should feel about the movie.

^THIS x100

Thank You

 

[GeckoMoria]

This is just wrong on both accounts.

The director of Wonder Woman made it a point to tell fans who had concerns that Themyscira would be racially diverse

And I don't know what rock you were living under where you could have possibly missed the "Political demands" being placed on the Wonder Woman film. At one point the U.N. was going to make Wonder Woman an honorary Ambassador for the Empowerment of Women and Girls

And I'm not even going to waste my energy posting any links to articles about the Wonder Woman film (and it's success) being important because there are literally thousands of them that you can easily find.

If you don't care about the larger meaning of a Black Panther film that's fine, but stop going from thread to thread lecturing Black people about being "entitled", "demanding", and telling us how we should feel about the movie.

You're acting as if the filmmakers themselves don't realize the importance of the film

Kevin Feige:



Source

Black Panther will be the FIRST film with a predominantly black cast, black director, black screenwriter, and black executive producer to receive a $100+ budget and be treated as a studio tent pole film. That has NEVER happened before, so yeah, people are going to be very invested in the film and it's success, because of what it could possibly mean for black people in film moving forward.

Like I said, if you don't care about any of that stuff that's fine, just stop with the condescending lectures to black people about how we should feel about the movie.

Themiscyra being racially diverse was nowhere near as covered or reported as Black Panther's racial background. There isn't a checklist that fans have that the film needs to satisfy. The only thing needs to do is be a good film. It won't save the world, it won't send a message like 12 Years a slave. if it succeeeds it will convince more filmmakers to invest in black blockbusters. But if you expect a strong political and racial message you will be disappointed and the movie doesn't need to deliver one either.

It's an action thriller. And i will post this as many times as i wish in as amny threads as i can.

 

[Wylie Times]

Themiscyra being racially diverse was nowhere near as covered or reported as Black Panther's racial background. There isn't a checklist that fans have that the film needs to satisfy. The only thing needs to do is be a good film. It won't save the world, it won't send a message like 12 Years a slave. if it succeeds it will convince more filmmakers to invest in black blockbusters. But if you expect a strong political and racial message you will be disappointed and the movie doesn't need to deliver one either.

It's an action thriller. And i will post this as many times as i wish in as amny threads as i can.

NOBODY is asking for a strong political or racial message. The guys on Double Toasted were joking and one of the outright said he was drunk.

Nobody is saying "OMG the Black Panther movie needs to save the world and uplift Black people around the globe". All people are saying is that they're excited for the movie, there are certain things they'd like to see because they've never seen it in this type of film before, and that they want it to do well.

And you're being disingenuous if you're saying there wasn't the similar type of excitement and expectations surround Wonder Woman. The only difference was the conversation around it was about gender instead of race.

If your opinion is that those things don't matter, that fine, it's the whole "Black people need to...." crap that needs to stop.

 

[HammerDown]

Klaw looks like a decent villain. His laugh and the hole interrogation scene was very Joker like to me. I hope he has good development and impact.

 

[MbJ]

There have been dozens of articles about the feminist impact of the Wonder Woman movie and the actors and filmmakers have talked about how important it was and how they wanted to make a point to inspire women or show young girls they can be heroes too, ect.

You're living under a rock if you think there was nothing similar to the conversations around Black Panther with Wonder Woman. There'll probably be something similar when Captain Marvel starts up too.

 

[GeckoMoria]

Lol, i said that there wasn't any talk about race regarding WW. race, not gender. There wasn't. The Themiscyra thing was minor. Race conroversy has been much more promiment in America because you are so ******** about it.

Yes, i used the word ********. You get riled up over the smallest details and look to stir trouble in any chance. The same will be done with this film.

 

[RockSP]

Themiscyra being racially diverse was nowhere near as covered or reported as Black Panther's racial background. There isn't a checklist that fans have that the film needs to satisfy. The only thing needs to do is be a good film. It won't save the world, it won't send a message like 12 Years a slave. if it succeeeds it will convince more filmmakers to invest in black blockbusters. But if you expect a strong political and racial message you will be disappointed and the movie doesn't need to deliver one either.

It's an action thriller. And i will post this as many times as i wish in as amny threads as i can.

What message did 12 Years a Slave send, in your opinion?

 

[Wylie Times]

Lol, i said that there wasn't any talk about race regarding WW. race, not gender. There wasn't. The Themiscyra thing was minor. Race conroversy has been much more promiment in America because you are so ******** about it.

This is what you said:

No one had racial or political demands from WW.

Even if it wasn't as much of a discussion there was talk about race as it related to the Wonder Woman film, so much so that the director made it a point to speak up about it.

And Feminism falls under what you call "Political demands" and there was TONS of discussion regarding that surrounding the film both before and after it's release.

And what "race controversy" are you talking about? Black people are excited about the first major tent pole studio film about a Black superhero in the same way that women were excited about the first major tent pole studio film about a female superhero.

Again, the head of Marvel studios has even pointed out how special and important the film is, but for whatever reason you keep lecturing Black people about not being excited about it or invested in the success of the film.

 

[MbJ]

Lol, i said that there wasn't any talk about race regarding WW. race, not gender.

You said racial or political. Gender stuff is definitely political.

Yes, i used the word ********. You get riled up over the smallest details and look to stir trouble in any chance. The same will be done with this film.

LOL you seem to be the one getting riled up in this thread.

 

[Uncanny1]

So........is Klaw going to get & use his sonic sound weapon on his arm in this movie, like in the comics/video games/toys?

 

[Wylie Times]

So........is Klaw going to get & use his sonic sound weapon on his arm in this movie, like in the comics/video games/toys?

Ryan Coogler said in an Entertainment Weekly article that Klaw is going to attach a Wakandan sonic mining tool to his arm at some point.

 

[MbJ]

So........is Klaw going to get & use his sonic sound weapon on his arm in this movie, like in the comics/video games/toys?

I'm pretty sure that's the blue explosion at the end of the trailer.

 

[Dark Raven]

I hope Klaw becomes a being of pure sound and turns into his familiar red appearance. Although what's he going to do with his beard?

 

[metaphysician]

I hope Klaw becomes a being of pure sound and turns into his familiar red appearance. Although what's he going to do with his beard?

Beard made of bass vibrations? *ducks*

 

[Dark Raven]

Beard made of bass vibrations? *ducks*

More quackery from the physician.

 

[Guts]

I doubt klaw will be a overt racist. I think he will just be a greedy scumbag with a grudge.

Yep besides, Klaw's squad seems to be mainly black guys.

And we can see in the trailer that Killmonger is the one breaking Klaw out custody so I would assume that those two are working together.

 

[Dark Raven]

Who is going to turn out to be the main villain in this movie? Killmonger or Klaw?

Klaw is traditionally BP's arch enemy. Are they setting him up for a sequel perhaps?

 

[Chesterfield]

I'm pretty sure that's the blue explosion at the end of the trailer.

Nah that's Black Panther's force push ability.

 

[Wylie Times]

Nah that's Black Panther's force push ability.

Can't be that, nobody was punching him in the head before hand.....

 

[DrCosmic]

In terms of political messages, it would be nice if Klaw sort of lampshaded the idea that being an economic opportunist easily involves taking advantage of Black people, giving a very solid demonstration of racism without racists, but that's a bit heavy for a summer tentpole, I suspect.

 

[metaphysician]

Eh, I wouldn't call that "too heavy" for a tentpole. Look at the subtext in Winter Soldier, or Iron Man 3. Hell, I'd say its more likely the audience would just plain *miss* that subtext, rather than finding it too "heavy" or offensive or soap-boxy.

 

[Wylie Times]

Eh, I wouldn't call that "too heavy" for a tentpole. Look at the subtext in Winter Soldier, or Iron Man 3. Hell, I'd say its more likely the audience would just plain *miss* that subtext, rather than finding it too "heavy" or offensive or soap-boxy.

There was a Mark Fuhrman police brutality reference in Captain America Civil War. So Marvel is willing to go there.

Ryan Coogler's first film was Fruitvale Station, his next film is about the cheating scandal in Atlanta Schools, he's shown himself to be socially conscious, and he understands the importance of this film.

There's going to be some social commentary in Black Panther. The movie isn't going to stop in it's tracks to deliver a PSA, but there will be some subtext there that as you said a lot of people will likely miss.

 

[DeadStroke]

Who is going to turn out to be the main villain in this movie? Killmonger or Klaw?

Klaw is traditionally BP's arch enemy. Are they setting him up for a sequel perhaps?

I think Killmonger is going to be the main villain.

There doesn't appear to be any scenes, at least from the trailer, that puts Klaw in Wakanda. Wakanda looks to be where the last act of the movie will take place judging from the trailer.

 

[DeadStroke]

Klaue should be great.

And here’s the one-armed Klaue himself. The villain has teamed up with Killmonger, who helps spring him from this CIA prison, in pursuit of Vibranium. Serkis says, “As long as [Klaue] can amass fortune and cause disruption in the world at the same time, I think he’s a happy man.”

Feige comments that “Klaue is the first [Panther] villain appearing in 1966 [and] Everett Ross showed up 10 or 12 years ago in the [Christopher] Priest run in Panther comics. It’s always fun to pick these characters and put them in together.” How precious!

Does Klaue have Is Erik Killmonger (Michael B. Jordan) T’Challa’s primary rival, the other side of this divided nation, seeking to take his throne?
I can’t really say. Klaue is the real villain. I can say that I identify with Killmonger’s character. It’s going to be a fun character. He definitely has a different point of view. They are polar opposites. A superhero movie is only as great as its villains. I think they both provide a piece of that.

What specific danger does Klaue pose to Black Panther’s people?
You have Wakanda, which is an isolationist society, Klaue has entered that space and knows more about it than anybody else. Because of that, he is a threat. Not to mention that he’s accessed this gift that could also be a curse to the rest of the world.

You’re talking about Vibranium, and his plans to weaponize it.
A lot of times when we talk about Vibranium we talk about it as if it’s, like, nuclear. It’s not a nuclear weapon but with the flexibly and versatility of it, it can do a lot of things. The fact that he has accessed that and has the mind to use it for evil is the key thing. Most people don’t know what it is and what can be done with it.

Does Klaue have a specific goal or mission? Or does T’Challa just have to track him down because he’s a rogue terrorist?
Yeah, that would be a good way to put it. He is the Osama bin Laden of the movie. He’s out there, and you have to go find him because he’s coming back at some point in time.

 

[DaddlerTheDalek]

Great to see him with his sound based weapon.