Endgame Official Avengers: Endgame News & Speculation Thread!

[Spider-Fan]

The MCU already introduced the idea of multiverses. In Doctor Strange.

 

[Iceman]

Thats what I thought to but it happens. Tbh it was always a toss up between rocket and carol.

Yeah, only so many characters are going to be rescuing a character trapped in space.

 

[Flash525]

The MCU already introduced the idea of multiverses. In Doctor Strange.

A concept (or idea) is one thing, but an alternate earth, with an alternate Steve Rogers, alternate Tony Stark, alternate Thor (etc). I can't speak for anyone else, but that would ruin the MCU for me.

 

[Spider-Fan]

A concept (or idea) is one thing, but an alternate earth, with an alternate Steve Rogers, alternate Tony Stark, alternate Thor (etc). I can't speak for anyone else, but that would ruin the MCU for me.

I don't agree. Multiverses have always been a thing in Marvel (and DC for that matter). I wouldn't want the entire MCU to shift focus to another alternate Earth for every MCU movie going forward beyond IW, but them going to other Earth's in the multiverse for a specific story reason is perfectly in line with ideas in comics and Sci-Fi.

 

[Flash525]

I don't agree. Multiverses have always been a thing in Marvel (and DC for that matter). I wouldn't want the entire MCU to shift focus to another alternate Earth for every MCU movie going forward beyond IW, but them going to other Earth's in the multiverse for a specific story reason is perfectly in line with ideas in comics and Sci-Fi.

In comics and sci-fi stories, and even films/series that're based on that, then fine, but for the MCU which has it's established universe, I would rather them not. It's ultimately just an opinion, but I'd prefer for them to stay in this prime universe of theirs.

Just cause something works, or has happened in the comics, doesn't mean it'll transition well on the big screen. The whole X-Men in the MCU is a prime example of that; it's not something I particularly want; I just don't think it'll work well, the transition, the whole prospect of mutants running around that before IF/EG, haven't remotely been mentioned, heard, or even known of. The only connection I'd want moving ahead is possibly the F4, because they maybe haven't acquired their abilities yet as far as the MCU goes.

 

[Lilbaz]

I don't remember Captain America earning his role as leader of the Avengers. In 2011 he got his ass frozen and in 2012 he was giving orders to Thor and Hulk.

He wasn't given the role he assumed it and started giving orders, the others followed them. They automatically followed his lead, which is the sign of a good leader. He did the same in the second world war.

 

[Spider-Fan]

In comics and sci-fi stories, and even films/series that're based on that, then fine, but for the MCU which has it's established universe, I would rather them not. It's ultimately just an opinion, but I'd prefer for them to stay in this prime universe of theirs.

Just cause something works, or has happened in the comics, doesn't mean it'll transition well on the big screen. The whole X-Men in the MCU is a prime example of that; it's not something I particularly want; I just don't think it'll work well, the transition, the whole prospect of mutants running around that before IF/EG, haven't remotely been mentioned, heard, or even known of. The only connection I'd want moving ahead is possibly the F4, because they maybe haven't acquired their abilities yet as far as the MCU goes.

People over complicate the Mutants thing, IMO. That can easily just be explained as mutants were around in small numbers, but suddenly they're appearing in large numbers. You can tie that to the Celestials and such that should be debuting in Eternals. It's not a stretch.

So many things though have been stated as not being something you can do in a CBM, yet Marvel does them and it keeps working.

 

[Abudefduf]

He wasn't given the role he assumed it and started giving orders, the others followed them. They automatically followed his lead, which is the sign of a good leader. He did the same in the second world war.

Well, exactly. It didn't take him years to become the leader of the Avengers, it took him one movie. He just showed up out of nowhere and started bossing Hulk and Thor around, whom he had only known for a few hours.

Why should it be different with Captain Marvel? Why does she have to earn it over the course of multiple movies.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Well, exactly. It didn't take him years to become the leader of the Avengers, it took him one movie. He just showed up out of nowhere and started bossing Hulk and Thor around, whom he had only known for a few hours.

Why should it be different with Captain Marvel? Why does she have to earn it over the course of multiple movies.

I think Captain Marvel can't show up in Endgame and start barking out orders. But, I only argue that because Endgame should first and foremost be about the main Avengers (the original 6). But if this is to be pretty much the end of an era and the OG is passing the torch to a new wave of Avengers, then Cap and co should pass that mantle to her and she should prove herself worthy or command in Endgame. It should be part of her arc.

That's my take.

 

[Flash525]

People over complicate the Mutants thing, IMO. That can easily just be explained as mutants were around in small numbers, but suddenly they're appearing in large numbers. You can tie that to the Celestials and such that should be debuting in Eternals. It's not a stretch.

So many things though have been stated as not being something you can do in a CBM, yet Marvel does them and it keeps working.

There's a big difference between adding a bunch of characters, and adding the ability to cross over into another universe entirely and (potentially) meet yourself, and other people you know, but don't know. My stance on this isn't likely to change (at least before it possibly happens in Endgame). ​

Well, exactly. It didn't take him years to become the leader of the Avengers, it took him one movie. He just showed up out of nowhere and started bossing Hulk and Thor around, whom he had only known for a few hours.

Why should it be different with Captain Marvel? Why does she have to earn it over the course of multiple movies.

I would think it's more that she's got to earn her position with the fans, rather than the Avengers. Why should we accept her as the new leader when she's (for all involved purposes) the new girl on the block?

 

[Abudefduf]

I think Captain Marvel can't show up in Endgame and start barking out orders. But, I only argue that because Endgame should first and foremost be about the main Avengers (the original 6). But if this is to be pretty much the end of an era and the OG is passing the torch to a new wave of Avengers, then Cap and co should pass that mantle to her and she should prove herself worthy or command in Endgame. It should be part of her arc.

That's my take.

I completely agree with this. As long as Cap is around, he's the one who should lead the Avengers. But once he's gone, I don't see any reason why CM shouldn't take his place. She's the most logical replacement.

I would think it's more that she's got to earn her position with the fans, rather than the Avengers. Why should we accept her as the new leader when she's (for all involved purposes) the new girl on the block?

But technically so was Cap. Again, I'm not arguing that CM should start yelling orders at Captain America or Thor the moment she shows up in Endgame... but I hope people are not expecting Marvel to wait years before putting her in charge of the Avengers, because that's not what they did with Captain America.

Or with Doctor Strange, for that matter... dude became Sorcerer Supreme in one movie.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I would think it's more that she's got to earn her position with the fans, rather than the Avengers. Why should we accept her as the new leader when she's (for all involved purposes) the new girl on the block?​

I think it's easier for fans to accept Cap as the leader because they know his as the leader, as in, they know he is supposed to be the leader. CM doesn't seem to be that popular with fans and so they see her coming in out of nowhere and taking Cap's job ​

 

[Aximili86]

Really can't see a duel-gauntlet duel thing going on here. A replacement for the damaged one, yeah, but I can't see Tony or Strange or whoever going at Thanos with some duplicate and multiverse-version of the stones.

 

[Flash525]

I completely agree with this. As long as Cap is around, he's the one who should lead the Avengers. But once he's gone, I don't see any reason why CM shouldn't take his place. She's the most logical replacement.

But technically so was Cap. Again, I'm not arguing that CM should start yelling orders at Captain America or Thor the moment she shows up in Endgame... but I hope people are not expecting Marvel to wait years before putting her in charge of the Avengers, because that's not what they did with Captain America.

But Rogers has been [with us] from the start, at least from the start of the Avengers; he even has that military background and a knowledge of strategy and containment which was needed during the first film, so it was a more natural progression.

I think fans will take to Carol providing she's not replacing Rogers (especially if he's still on the scene - I don't think we'll be seeing much of Steve or Stark once Endgame wraps).

Or with Doctor Strange, for that matter... dude became Sorcerer Supreme in one movie.

Guy's a quick study, wasn't it said that he had a photogenic memory or something? Granted, it's a lot to take on board, but still. That, and there's a few years (I think) between the events of Doctor Strange and Infinity War.

Really can't see a duel-gauntlet duel thing going on here. A replacement for the damaged one, yeah, but I can't see Tony or Strange or whoever going at Thanos with some duplicate and multiverse-version of the stones.

I must admit, I'm not too hot on the idea. It would just be gauntlet wielder vs gauntlet wielder. A rather boring fight; one of the elements I liked about Infinity War was everyone got to showcase (some of their) abilities. If it's just a gauntlet back and forth, it'll be less interesting.

 

[Abudefduf]

But Rogers has been [with us] from the start, at least from the start of the Avengers

He was the last major character introduced in Phase 1. Not even a year later, he was leading the Avengers.

Maybe it's worth pointing out that Captain Marvel isn't exactly a fresh recruit... she's a war veteran and the captain of an intergalactic team of soldiers (as we will see in her solo movie). If that doesn't make you a good candidate for the role of leader of the Avengers, then I don't know what does.

Guy's a quick study, wasn't it said that he had a photogenic memory or something? Granted, it's a lot to take on board, but still. That, and there's a few years (I think) between the events of Doctor Strange and Infinity War.

He outsmarted one of the most ancient and powerful beings in the Multiverse at the end of his first movie. Never seen anyone complain about it.

 

[Flash525]

He was the last major character introduced in Phase 1. Not even a year later, he was leading the Avengers.

Maybe it's worth pointing out that Captain Marvel isn't exactly a fresh recruit... she's a war veteran and the captain of an intergalactic team of soldiers (as we will see in her solo movie). If that doesn't make you a good candidate for the role of leader of the Avengers, then I don't know what does.

His film being the last of Phase 1 is kinda irrelevant, as the character was established to exist before then; most (if not all) of the other Avengers knew of him, they'd have grown up hearing about Steve Rogers, the war hero, who they'd have had no problem taking orders from. Clint & Tasha are used to following orders, Banner/Hulk are simple enough; they don't use their own initiative much (when fighting) and are happy to follow. Stark wasn't experienced in combat (of that magnitude) and Thor, well to be fair, Rogers never bossed Thor about, merely suggested that he could light up the sky.

He outsmarted one of the most ancient and powerful beings in the Multiverse at the end of his first movie. Never seen anyone complain about it.

And?

 

[I Am The Knight]

He outsmarted one of the most ancient and powerful beings in the Multiverse at the end of his first movie. Never seen anyone complain about it.

More like he exhausted him

 

[Abudefduf]

His film being the last of Phase 1 is kinda irrelevant, as the character was established to exist before then; most (if not all) of the other Avengers knew of him, they'd have grown up hearing about Steve Rogers, the war hero, who they'd have had no problem taking orders from.

Does it really matter for how long they've been aware of her existence? I'd say what matters is that after the events of Endgame, out of all the still available heroes, CM will likely be the most qualified to become leader of the Avengers. Unless her movie sucks ass, that is.

Steve and Tony will probably be dead or retired. Thor, T'Challa and Dr. Strange will be too busy being kings and sorcerers supreme. All the other ones are simply not leader material. That leaves only her

And?

It's a pretty impressive feat for the new kid on the block.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Does it really matter for how long they've been aware of her existence? I'd say what matters is that after the events of Endgame, out of all the still available heroes, CM will likely be the most qualified to become leader of the Avengers. Unless her movie sucks ass, that is.

I still think BP should take the lead. He is a noble king. CM's personality might get in the way of being the great leader the Avengers need

 

[Spider-Fan]

BP being a king is exactly why he may not want to be leader of the Avengers. That would require split attention, which he may not be able to do since he has a country to look after.

 

[MrWayne]

I'm almost 100% certain the line Tony says " I had a dream about it, it was SO REAL! " will pay itself off in Endgame. There's a reason why Tony mentions he had a vivid dream he felt was so real that he thought Pepper would be expecting.

 

[KBX]

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[BoredGuy]

I still think BP should take the lead. He is a noble king. CM's personality might get in the way of being the great leader the Avengers need

As long as she's a better leader in the movies than she is in the comics, we'll be okay
Marvel takin another big risk like they did back on Avengers 1, banking that Carol will be popular enough to be accepted into the Avengers only a month and a half after her solo film
and I doubt she'll be barking orders, but if she comes in as the savior-type character, that could be annoying too

 

[HammerDown]

Someone knows if this is legit? Because it seems like it. The way Cap is dressed with the scales suit, then War Machine and Ronin right behind him...

 

[HammerDown]

Found another version of it. Seems like it's fan made.