Endgame Official Avengers: Endgame News & Speculation Thread!

[KevTravels]

Again, that scene is odd for me just due to what's being said vs what happens. The "world is on fire" yet Ross wants the only people who can help arrested... Huh?

Precisely. It was really oddly worded and acted. Did Ross really believe Rhodey would have followed those orders considering all the havoc around them?

 

[flickchick85]

I think it's worth noting that "the world is on fire" for Ross just meant that Tony Stark disappeared with an alien ship in NYC and people were freaking out. He knew nothing of Thanos or what was coming at the time, and that "invasion" looked a hell of a lot smaller than the Battle of NYC, so he may have been deluded enough to think it was something they could handle without Rogers & Co.

 

[Spidey_62]

Does anybody else remember that "leaked" previs shot of Spidey and an astral Doctor Strange from like a year before Infinity War came out? Was that thing ever debunked as fake trash because in retrospect

Spoiler

it looked like it could have been a scene from this movie. Had the Strange dialogue saying something like "Peter, they're not dead!" Or hey maybe that could have been the part where Thanos blasts the Guardians and they're all out of commission for a few minutes.

 

[Relugus]

Ross would consider Vision, Wanda, Bucky, and Sam being dead as making the world safer for humanity.

Again, that scene is odd for me just due to what's being said vs what happens. The "world is on fire" yet Ross wants the only people who can help arrested... Huh?

I think Ross views them as useless on account of them being fugitives and thus not supported by the UN.

 

[MrWayne]

Ross would consider Vision, Wanda, Bucky, and Sam being dead as making the world safer for humanity.


I think Ross views them as useless on account of them being fugitives and thus not supported by the UN.

That makes no sense LOL but anyways... Back to EndGame

 

[shabadoo25]

Off topic: It's odd that these discussions are in this forum location.

If you discuss the Arrow TV show under TV Series/Arrow, why wouldn't these discussions be under Movies/Marvel Movies?

 

[Xeno]

Off topic: It's odd that these discussions are in this forum location.

If you discuss the Arrow TV show under TV Series/Arrow, why wouldn't these discussions be under Movies/Marvel Movies?

It's not odd at all. Every film that is in production (and some that aren't) has is own subforum on this site. The Marvel Films subforum is for general discussion of films Marvel Studios might make in the future, speculation on films fans want to see, the reacquisition of film rights from other studios, etc..

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Does anybody else remember that "leaked" previs shot of Spidey and an astral Doctor Strange from like a year before Infinity War came out? Was that thing ever debunked as fake trash because in retrospect

Spoiler

it looked like it could have been a scene from this movie. Had the Strange dialogue saying something like "Peter, they're not dead!" Or hey maybe that could have been the part where Thanos blasts the Guardians and they're all out of commission for a few minutes.

I think they were previs for Infinity War. I assume at one point in the script Strange was going to tell Spider-Man to go save the Guardians after Thanos threw a moon at them, and that moment got cut for time and the finished film just has Spider-Man saving the Guardians without Strange telling him to do so.

 

[GreenKToo]

I think CM will tip the scales. I don't think she will be stronger than thanos, but having her will just barely tip the balance in the surviving AV's favor.
They already had him beat until star lord lost it.
Besides, If she just came in and took him out with one punch, then what the #@$%.

 

[samsnee]

They almost got the gauntlet off of him but I still think Thanos would have beaten them without it. He beat Hulk with his bare hands. And no one on the Avengers outside of Thor would be strong enough to wield the gauntlet.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

We should be getting an official look at all the toys today.

 

[Samuron]

Again, that scene is odd for me just due to what's being said vs what happens. The "world is on fire" yet Ross wants the only people who can help arrested... Huh?

Ross is a Skrull.

 

[HammerDown]

Going by the logic of Infinity War the Avengers had more than enough fire power to take down Thanos.
The only issue was that they where a fragmented team with a lot of new moving pieces.

Now Thanos has a, damaged but still functional, fully assembled gauntlet which makes him more powerful than ever. Also the heroes have nowhere near the amount of fire power they had previously. The remaining big hitters in the team are basically only Thor, Hulk and Iron Man. Thanos also has fought these 3, on 1 v 1 situations, so he knows now what to expect and wouldn't be caught by surprise so easily.

So yeh, the remaining heroes can't just go head to head and expect to come out victorious. They need a good plan and all the back up they can get. Also even though Thanos is almost a one man show he still has a massive army at his disposal.

At this point it's safe to say that Captain Marvel will play an integral part in defeating Thanos. She is suppose to be "the most powerful character" so that will play a big role in how things turn out. I still don't expect or want her to be that much more powerful than some of the existing characters. The best way to have her come in and help save the day would be to use her powers in a smart manner, she doesn't need to or should be the best, strongest, more durable, more powerful, faster, smarter... she should have a particular set of skills that make her excel over other characters but not overshadow them.

That's how the team, the Avengers, have worked so far... Everyone has a part to play. No-one is or should be head and shoulders above the others.

 

[HammerDown]

We should be getting an official look at all the toys today.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Hasbro. I'm certain we sill get to see some figures.

 

[Iceman]

Ross is a Skrull.

He has to be. No one could be that idiotic and stubborn - he must have some ulterior agenda.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I'm guessing new trailer in early March.

 

[BoredGuy]

Ross is a Skrull.

It'll be interesting to see if we ever get the Skrulls' -- or the Kree's-- reactions to the decimation. They should hate and want to defeat Thanos just as much as any of the human characters. The Kree being the very proud race they are, I can't see them taking too kindly to half their population being blinked out of existence with no chance to put up a fight.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

It'll be interesting to see if we ever get the Skrulls' -- or the Kree's-- reactions to the decimation. They should hate and want to defeat Thanos just as much as any of the human characters. The Kree being the very proud race they are, I can't see them taking too kindly to half their population being blinked out of existence with no chance to put up a fight.

Going into Endgame all the Kree's we know from Guardians of the Galaxy, and even from the Agents of SHIELD for the completest viewer, are dead, and they are not even liked by the audience. Just as Infinity War didn't seem to know much about the Wakandans from Black Panther I doubt Endgame will know much about the Skrulls of Captain Marvel.

So unless we get a prequel series on Disney + focusing on some space faring hero we will probably never see any alien reaction beyond a quick flash of a society dealing with half of everyone gone. On earth with the Avengers the reaction will be a few minutes at most.

 

[Flash525]

Well it would definitely help if they gave us an idea as to where Captain Marvel's powers rank up when compared to Thor's power and Hulk's strength. And I am basing my concerns off from quotes made by Feige and Samuel L Jackson, who keep labeling her as the strongest hero alive. We also started getting TV spots stating as such. If Captain Marvel is stronger than Thor with stormbreaker, where he was able to almost kill Thanos with all of the infinity stones in his possession then what does that make Captain Marvel?

At this point it's safe to say that Captain Marvel will play an integral part in defeating Thanos. She is suppose to be "the most powerful character" so that will play a big role in how things turn out. I still don't expect or want her to be that much more powerful than some of the existing characters. The best way to have her come in and help save the day would be to use her powers in a smart manner, she doesn't need to or should be the best, strongest, more durable, more powerful, faster, smarter... she should have a particular set of skills that make her excel over other characters but not overshadow them.

I really hope she isn't as overpowered as it's been applied. I don't mind her being equivalent (yet different) to Thor, but if she's anything like the DCEU Superman, it'll just ruin the whole experience for me. The idea that you've got a character that's practically indestructible? No thanks. If an antagonist of [the entire] Avengers can't be of a threat to her, then the villain to her solo sequel is going to need to be quite something.

Now Thanos has a, damaged but still functional, fully assembled gauntlet which makes him more powerful than ever. Also the heroes have nowhere near the amount of fire power they had previously. The remaining big hitters in the team are basically only Thor, Hulk and Iron Man. Thanos also has fought these 3, on 1 v 1 situations, so he knows now what to expect and wouldn't be caught by surprise so easily.

It depends on whether they're just fighting Thanos, or whether they're fighting his armies too.

Thanos vs Hulk was a win for Thanos. He wasn't using the Power Stone to fight Hulk. He was just himself. MCU Thanos is stronger than MCU Hulk. MCU Thor (with Stormbreaker) is (seemingly) stronger than MCU Thanos, in part due to ranged attack. Hulk doesn't have that. Ironman again does have ranged attack. We don't know how durable Thanos is when up against Stark, but when they fought on Titan, Thanos used a good number of those stones to defend himself from Stark, or to attack him. Take away the stones, and how does Thanos fare against Ironman?

It'll be interesting to see if we ever get the Skrulls' -- or the Kree's-- reactions to the decimation. They should hate and want to defeat Thanos just as much as any of the human characters. The Kree being the very proud race they are, I can't see them taking too kindly to half their population being blinked out of existence with no chance to put up a fight.

Going into Endgame all the Kree's we know from Guardians of the Galaxy, and even from the Agents of SHIELD for the completest viewer, are dead, and they are not even liked by the audience. Just as Infinity War didn't seem to know much about the Wakandans from Black Panther I doubt Endgame will know much about the Skrulls of Captain Marvel.

So unless we get a prequel series on Disney + focusing on some space faring hero we will probably never see any alien reaction beyond a quick flash of a society dealing with half of everyone gone. On earth with the Avengers the reaction will be a few minutes at most.

I doubt we'll see much in the way of how the snap is being dealt with by other worlds (unfortunately), though a scene on Xandar wouldn't go amiss, especially as our heroes (presumably) will go there at some point to get the Power Stone before Thanos does? If they do indeed travel through time to acquire them all. The whole second gauntlet plot is mere speculation at the moment.

 

[DCnightwing23]

I find it strange there's this debate about whether or not Thanos would win even without the gauntlet. He would not. They remove the gauntlet, Strange could toss him into another dimension or transport him somewhere or even trap him with a spell. Thanos, without the stones and gauntlet, would not be able to stop that.

 

[Flash525]

I find it strange there's this debate about whether or not Thanos would win even without the gauntlet. He would not. They remove the gauntlet, Strange could toss him into another dimension or transport him somewhere or even trap him with a spell. Thanos, without the stones and gauntlet, would not be able to stop that.

Strange was erased.

The question (at least the one I posed) isn't so much about defeating [just] Thanos, but whether he'd have an army to contend with too. His elite (the Black Order) are all gone, but his armies surely remain (although by snapping his fingers, one would assume they've been halved as well).

A Gauntless Thanos could easily best all of the (remaining) Avengers with the sole exception of Ironman, Captain Marvel and Thor. Nobody else realistically stands a chance one on one. Bring his armies into the fold, and you've got a very different situation.

 

[HunBoy]

Gwyneth Paltrow Announces Retirement From Marvel Cinematic Universe

 

[AvengerPA]

Gwyneth Paltrow Announces Retirement From Marvel Cinematic Universe

This tells me that Tony dies. No more need for Pepper if Tony is not around.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I am of the thinking Tony is going to die, as well. But it is possible that Pepper and Tony just get married and quit altogether. Her confirming she is done I don't think is confirmation Tony dies. Nor if reports of Evans being done are true does that mean Cap dies. There are other options.