First Avenger OFFICIAL: Chris Evans is Captain America

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Strangely enough, I find really big chunks of male sexism widespread on the media, if we will call it henceforth "sexism".

Yeah, but we're men. We don't get offended if guy spend a whole movie shirtless. We just make fun of him endlessly.

 

[JAK®]

Female nudity is sexist because it is almost always portrayed in a sexual manner.

Whereas for men, showing a bare muscular torso could merely be a method of showing strength. Women might find that attractive but it serves a more narrative purpose.

Just about all media is from a male perspective.

 

[Duker Jay]

Female nudity is sexist because it is almost always portrayed in a sexual manner.

Whereas for men, showing a bare muscular torso could merely be a method of showing strength. Women might find that attractive but it serves a more narrative purpose.

Just about all media is from a male perspective.

This.

 

[GhostPoet]

I find a female character just as clothed (or armored) as a male character to be much more exciting and fun to read/watch.

I recently found what I think might have been a comic cover of Ms Marvel wearing her trademark chest symbol with a black top and black pants. Not sure what material and I think it looked freaking awesome. She looked tough. But heroic.

 

[Mercurius]

Female nudity is sexist because it is almost always portrayed in a sexual manner.

Whereas for men, showing a bare muscular torso could merely be a method of showing strength. Women might find that attractive but it serves a more narrative purpose.

Just about all media is from a male perspective.

Yeah, but strenght in this case is exactly the sexual feature in men.

To take two very recent examples, the shirtless scenes in CA and Thor: in one of them, Hayley Atwell's first moviment (as of any other girl in her situation) is to go touch his hypertorso in all curiosity; in Thor, Kat Dennings makes that homeless person remark.

The subtext is obvious: strenght, in men, is seen as the attractive feature. Thus, it's the same with girls: when they show their beautiful lines, there's immediate sexual innuendo.

It's the same thing.

And what's the problem with sex, anyway? You see, Woody Allen, that famous philosopher, says there are only two things in life: sex & death.

Well, perhaps only one thing, cause death would be better defined as already out of life. t:

 

[GhostPoet]

Yeah, but strenght in this case is exactly the sexual feature in men.

To take two very recent examples, the shirtless scenes in CA and Thor: in one of them, Hayley Atwell's first moviment (as of any other girl in her situation) is to go touch his hypertorso in all curiosity; in Thor, Kat Dennings makes that homeless person remark.

The subtext is obvious: strenght, in men, is seen as the attractive feature. Thus, it's the same with girls: when they show their beautiful lines, there's immediate sexual innuendo.

It's the same thing.

And what's the problem with sex, anyway? You see, Woody Allen, that famous philosopher, says there are only two things in life: sex & death.

Well, perhaps only one thing, cause death would be better defined as already out of life. t:

For me...I can't really take a character series when they run into battle with nothing but a thong and some string for the chest.

 

[lixdexia]

For me...I can't really take a character series when they run into battle with nothing but a thong and some string for the chest.

yeah that'd be as silly as guys running into battle wearing only leather briefs and red capes. totally sexist.

 

[TikkiEXX]

whoa, who only wears trunks and a cape? lol. but most male characters are pretty much fully clothed these days. even Namor usually wears pants and a shirt nowadays. cant really think of too many other shirtless males besides the Hulks.

 

[The Infernal]

HULK IS NAKEDEST THERE IS.

 

[Mercurius]

whoa, who only wears trunks and a cape? lol. but most male characters are pretty much fully clothed these days. even Namor usually wears pants and a shirt nowadays. cant really think of too many other shirtless males besides the Hulks.

But Namor should be an exception, he should be completely au naturel except for his green trunks.

It simply makes no sense for him to be all covered up. He despises human habits. And, for God's sake, the man is living in the oceans.

 

[TikkiEXX]

yeah i know. it actually makes sense for Namor to be half nekkid. but it seems lately theyve been dressin him up in that awful leather get up. havent seen him in his original duds in a long time.

 

[Mercurius]

yeah i know. it actually makes sense for Namor to be half nekkid. but it seems lately theyve been dressin him up in that awful leather get up. havent seen him in his original duds in a long time.

That's what I always say: we live in a very conservative, prude society. Gawd give us some fine debauchery.

 

[Paradox1]

But Namor should be an exception, he should be completely au naturel except for his green trunks.

It simply makes no sense for him to be all covered up. He despises human habits. And, for God's sake, the man is living in the oceans.

It's the ocean not a hot tube it gets very cold in those waters and namor since he's half man still has to worry about shrinkage. Can't be trying to get a date with a woman while your stuff is acting like a scared turtle.

 

[Mercurius]

It's the ocean not a hot tube it gets very cold in those waters and namor since he's half man still has to worry about shrinkage. Can't be trying to get a date with a woman while your stuff is acting like a scared turtle.

Hey, he's Namor, not George Costanza.

 

[WildcatNC]

whoa, who only wears trunks and a cape?

Ever see 300 ?


Its all the same thing. Its either sexism or its not, you can't selectively apply it.


There is nothing wrong with sex. Its part of being human, and most of us like it. Its part of life, not something to be avoided.

 

[WildcatNC]

Hey, he's Namor, not George Costanza.

 

[Silvermoth]

Nah, I would still want to see Ms Marvel as being just as strong and cool as Thor, Cap and Iron Man. If they avoided giving Steve a spandex costume for Captain America than I think they can do a bit better than a string bikini up her bottom.

Namor's an excellent example, thanks to the person for suggesting that. They could do a better costume for him than a pair of budgie smugglers.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

Can anyone point me to a film where Evans has a kind Cap gravitas working for him. I'm not that familiar with him and he doesn't seem to be that way naturally (from what I've seen in interviews).

 

[JAK®]

Can anyone point me to a film where Evans has a kind Cap gravitas working for him. I'm not that familiar with him and he doesn't seem to be that way naturally (from what I've seen in interviews).

Sunshine.

 

[Dark Raven]

Nah, I would still want to see Ms Marvel as being just as strong and cool as Thor, Cap and Iron Man. If they avoided giving Steve a spandex costume for Captain America than I think they can do a bit better than a string bikini up her bottom.

Namor's an excellent example, thanks to the person for suggesting that. They could do a better costume for him than a pair of budgie smugglers.

Ms Marvel doesn't have a string bikini up her bottom in the comics, but now that you mention it, she should, and in live action too.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Well its a onepiece with a very revealing behind

 

[Duker Jay]

Yeah, but strenght in this case is exactly the sexual feature in men.

To take two very recent examples, the shirtless scenes in CA and Thor: in one of them, Hayley Atwell's first moviment (as of any other girl in her situation) is to go touch his hypertorso in all curiosity; in Thor, Kat Dennings makes that homeless person remark.

The subtext is obvious: strenght, in men, is seen as the attractive feature. Thus, it's the same with girls: when they show their beautiful lines, there's immediate sexual innuendo.

It's the same thing.

And what's the problem with sex, anyway? You see, Woody Allen, that famous philosopher, says there are only two things in life: sex & death.

Well, perhaps only one thing, cause death would be better defined as already out of life. t:

The sexism comes from who controls the media. In this case, the comic book medium is predominantly created by and for males. When the female characters' primary purpose is eye candy or they're reduced to a caricature with no possibility of displaying complexity beyond that then it begins to border on sexism. When the same thing happens with guys, you start to have more of a homoerotic thing happening.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

The thing is that ISN'T the case anymore. There are alot more women reading comics today, just as there are more women playing video games etc. The problem now is Marvel and DC etc have to choose between pleasing newer readers but also not losing anything 'iconic' such as a costume.

Although personally, all the girls I know who read comics either prefer the independent stuff by people like Neil Gaiman etc, or they've been reading Marvel comics their whole life.

 

[TikkiEXX]

Well its a onepiece with a very revealing behind

well Ms Marvel is blessed with a better than average caboose, kind of hard to keep all that a$$ in that outfit. lol

 

[Mercurius]

The sexism comes from who controls the media. In this case, the comic book medium is predominantly created by and for males. When the female characters' primary purpose is eye candy or they're reduced to a caricature with no possibility of displaying complexity beyond that then it begins to border on sexism. When the same thing happens with guys, you start to have more of a homoerotic thing happening.

Guys and girls in superherodom are treated as equals: if there's sexism against women, there is the same thing happening with men.

Girls have curves and flesh shown: men have muscles and flesh. Same thing, for homo or heterosexual purposes.

And sex is nice. Or at least I think so.