Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

What Will Cyclops' Fate Be In X3?

  • Dies At Alkali Lake

  • Never Faces A Life-Threatening Situation

  • Supposedly Dies Early But Returns In The Final Battle

  • Dies In The Final Battle

  • Goes On Sabbatical (after Alkali Lake)


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Bishop2 said:
But isn't the message of such an ending basically "Wolverine hasn't learned jack"? :O

Or the message could be "Wolverine was right all along and everybody else was wrong and of course, inferior."

Which is basically the message of all three movies.
 
larryfilmmaker said:
Now we have to all acknowledge that the movies are what they are. I was disappointed not just with 3, but also with 1 and 2 (tho 3 was way worse) because I thought none of them captured what the heart of X-Men was about.

I too feel that X1 and X2 were far from perfect. But compared to X3, they had far better character dynamics, and unlike X3, X1 and X2 ended on a more positive or hopeful note. In other words, you KNEW there would be more, that the story wasn't over yet, and that 1/2 the cast wasn't killed off. So just the fact that you knew there could be more kept spirits up a bit more than they possibly could with the ending we were given in X3.

and Ratner's trilogy is over and we really never got a teamwork filled, heart wrenching and epic X-Men movie. We will, someday. Until then... there are plenty of other mediums for an X-nut to get his or her fill.

True about the other mediums, but the thing about movies is that, Hollywood's not known to be consistent with their promises, and in all honesty, we really don't know what the future may hold. Because truth is, none of our futures have been written yet. You'd be surprised what a well organized petition could accomplish if it's big enough and strong enough. Stuff like this wouldn't be easy, of course not! But it wouldn't be impossible either. If fans got their Batman Begins, then there's no reason why we couldn't get our X-men.
 
I posted these in the Cyclops Slurpy Thread, but they should be in this thread too.

Nothing to do... so I decided to post some HQ pics of Jimmy

 
^^^ The most talented, good looking dude to ever have his character shafted in a movie series
 
I can believe I missed the second CHUD review of TLS but I can't agree with that part more:

The basic truth of the matter is that the film needs another half hour. As it is, X-Men: The Last Stand feels scooped out. There’s barely a second act here. The characters take the loss more often than not – the trend towards making these films Wolverine and His Pals The X-Men is essentially completed, which is a shame because so many characters and subplots have been already built in to the franchise. By spending too much narrative on Wolverine, everyone else gets the shaft. The other problem with focusing on Wolverine (and this is going to be spoilery) is that the entire film becomes imbalanced when it comes to the Phoenix storyline. In the original comics, Phoenix destroys an entire alien planet, killing billions. That’s her “crossing the line” moment, and it’s not one that would fit in the film universe. The movie wisely knows that while it can’t replicate that moment in scale, it can actually trump that moment in emotion – Jean kills Cyclops. The problem here is two-fold: Cyclops’ death is too perfunctory to mean anything, and by removing him from the equation the film has placed all the burden on Wolverine. While the first two movies had Wolverine and Cyclops as dark mirrors of each other and rivals for Jean’s affection, the loss of half of that equation throws everything out of whack. It’s especially annoying as the dichotomy of the two suitors is paralleled in Jean herself, who is suffering from schizophrenia – she is occasionally Jean Grey, but is mostly Phoenix, a beast of the unconscious. The storyline tames Wolverine into a sappy romantic and team-oriented do-gooder, the parts Cyclops needed to play.
 
I do too, it's very well thought out.

Despite my many anti-Wolverine rants, when handled correctly, he can bring something to a story, and his relationship with Cyclops in the first two movies was fun at times. Had they given Cyke more respect and not screwed him over in X3, they could have really done something with it.

The worst thing about X3 is not how bad it was, but how great it COULD have been.
 
Kurosawa said:
The worst thing about X3 is not how bad it was, but how great it COULD have been.

:up: I think that sums it up.

(I was reminded of you when I read the "Wolverine and His Pals " bit... :p)
 
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