Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

What Will Cyclops' Fate Be In X3?

  • Dies At Alkali Lake

  • Never Faces A Life-Threatening Situation

  • Supposedly Dies Early But Returns In The Final Battle

  • Dies In The Final Battle

  • Goes On Sabbatical (after Alkali Lake)


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I think one of the reasons that scott/marsden never got the screentime he deserved is because of cyc's power. It's not nearly as visually stunning as nightcrawler, storm, iceman and it just doesn't have the cool factor of say jean, mystique, wolverine or the emotional turmoil like rogue (they could of used this one by digging into the fact that he constantly has to wear glasses, then again so do people with awful sight.
 
But also he can only see in Red and never take them off.
 
I'd say Cyclops' power is visually one of the most interesting.
Not to bash the other characters, but in X3, I got a bit tired of seeing Wolverine going through some more hacking and slashing with his claws, Storm generate more lightning and fog, and Magneto flipping over cars.
In X3, they only took Iceman's powers to another level.

With Cyclops being able to control the intensity of his beam, I'm sure creative writers and directors could come up with something interesting for him to do.
Imagine the battle of Alcatraz, all dark and somber, and then suddenly a bright red beam pearcing through the enemy's ranks, blowing away members of the Brotherhood left and right, and relying on his skills as a fighter when he can't reach the controls of his visors, like Singer and Marsden did for X2.
 
god/devil said:
I think one of the reasons that scott/marsden never got the screentime he deserved is because of cyc's power. It's not nearly as visually stunning as nightcrawler, storm, iceman and it just doesn't have the cool factor of say jean, mystique, wolverine or the emotional turmoil like rogue (they could of used this one by digging into the fact that he constantly has to wear glasses, then again so do people with awful sight.

well I think Cyke's power looks absolutely awesome and it blows stuff up big time so there's a lot fx-wise they could do. in X-1 they sure as hell weren't blowing anybody away with cool effects from ANY character
 
I think the reason Scott didn't get the screentime is because they didn't know how to use his character. They started out by introducing Logan as the outsider, which makes sense since you need a reason to explain everything to someone.

The problem is Scott seems like a boring character, since he's the boy scout who (as Joss Whedon so brillantly put it) always does his homework and eats his vegetables. He's not cool, he's just average in looks, and he's got issues.

Scott's the natural leader of the X-Men, and the problem with Marsden is that he just lacks that natural charisma of a leader.

Marden is too much of the very charming, good looking hunk that gets everything because he's a pretty boy. That's not Scott. Scott has had to work four times harder than everyone else.

Scott's insecure because he's not the type of guy who gets the girl. He's not able to control his powers, which makes him a bit of a control freak.

Scott always tries to do the right thing, no matter what, and it always backfires on him. He's all about duty and responsibility.

He's not the type of character that translates well to an action movie and needed to be played by the right type of actor.
 
well I agree with most of it, but I think you're wrong abotu the "Scott's insecure because he's not the type of guy who gets the girl."

He ALWAYS gets the girl... as pointed about by about every X-Men character ever.
 
Mother_Askani said:
He's not cool, he's just average in looks

I will thought Scott was supposed to be a pretty boy, a contrast to Logan in the comics. Especially with Marsden playing him and the way the draw him in the Ultimate Universe.
 
yeah Wolverine was the short, brutal, average (or less then cause he was so animalistic) hairy guy.

but movieverse wolverine is a tall, hunky, hairy, guy.
 
WideAwake said:
Imagine the battle of Alcatraz, all dark and somber, and then suddenly a bright red beam pearcing through the enemy's ranks, blowing away members of the Brotherhood left and right, and relying on his skills as a fighter when he can't reach the controls of his visors, like Singer and Marsden did for X2.

Hehe, that'e exactly how we're portraying him. Logan asks Scott how he expects to go into combat and physical fight the bad guys with two broken ribs. And Scott points that he doesn't intend to let the bad guys get close enough to physically fight him.

And when Magneto does his flying cars attack, Scott perks up. "Extreme Shot-put!!!" and does short work, thoroughly humiliating Magneto :)

Magneto: "Don't you poeple ever DIE?"

Scott: "Dying's NOT on my agenda tonight!"
 
Sounds cool! :cyclops:
Is that in the rewrite you did with GoddessReicho? I still haven't had the chance to read it, but I will check it out eventually!
 
MsNatchios said:
I will thought Scott was supposed to be a pretty boy, a contrast to Logan in the comics. .
Scott is kind of an ugly duckling. He was originally a tall, lanky and awkward teenager with really dorky clothes. He's just one of those guys who look surprisingly good once they start working out and get a decent wardrobe and haircut (I bet Jean has helped quite a bit with those last two things over the years). So while Scott is handsome, I don't think he should be too handsome. He should look good in a way that it's still believable that he isn't fully aware of his own attractiveness.
 
Still, you need some charisma on Cyclops or people would just think he's a big D*ck... :D

But yeah, given proper writing, Cyclops can be portrayed as "cool", specially on super serious situations and he is very p*ssed. Then real power comes out...
Sadly, he never gets to show his true potential so he's stuck as an inefficient, irrelevant leader in the X-movieverse...
 
i saw the movie interstate 60, the movie was crappy but james was gorgeous (as always) anyway, he plays an artist and comic book fan, in one scene he lift something up and an x-men comic is under it, who is on the cover?? jean! i thought it was cute, he was channeling his inner cy
 
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My first manip after a long time. lol.
 
WideAwake said:
Sounds cool! :cyclops:
Is that in the rewrite you did with GoddessReicho? I still haven't had the chance to read it, but I will check it out eventually!

Yeah, that's going to definitely be in there. It is still heavily under construction so the first set of posts you see in that thread looks like a random collection of scenes, but we're now going back to the beginning and aside from some snips here and there asking for opinions and corrections, suggestions, etc we'll be posting things in order and in what we hope to be a more coherent fashion, haha.
 
spark627 said:
i saw the movie interstate 60, the movie was crappy but james was gorgeous (as always) anyway, he plays an artist and comic book fan, in one scene he lift something up and an x-men comic is under it, who is on the cover?? jean! i thought it was cute, he was channeling his inner cy

that movie is brilliant and shows every single way human beings distort reality to fit their own purposes... it's a very subtle, very awesome movie. The dude who made Back to the Future made it! The x-men cover was in the first shot.
 
i know what the movie was going for, i got it. i just found it boring and the acting was pretty bad.
 
If anyone has any Scott/James pictures that I may not have seen before, please post em.
 
I can't post them all! I have more than 2.000 pics of Jimmy (Photoshoots, Magazines, Events and Films)!
 
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