Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[SCOTT&JEAN]

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First Look At John Travolta in Hairspray
Written by Robert Sanchez
Friday, 08 September 2006
New Line Cinema has supplied the IESB with a first look at John Travolta in the upcoming remake of Hairspray.

It’s 1962. Change is in the hair.

Tracy Turnblad, a big girl with big hair and an even bigger heart, has only one passion – dancing. Her dream is to appear on “The Corny Collins Show,” Baltimore’s hippest dance party on TV. Tracy (Nikki Blonsky) seems a natural fit for the show except for one not-so-little problem – she doesn’t fit. Her plus-sized figure has always set her apart from the in-crowd, which she is reminded of by her loving but overly protective plus-sized mother, Edna (John Travolta). That doesn’t stop Tracy because if there is one thing that this big girl knows, it’s that she was born to boogie.

After wowing Corny Collins (James Marsden) at her high school hop, Tracy wins a spot on his show and becomes an instant on-air sensation, much to the chagrin of the show’s reigning princess, Amber Von Tussle (Brittany Snow) and her vitriolic mother, Velma (Michelle Pfeiffer), who runs television station WYZT. Even worse for Amber is the fact that it’s not just the audience who loves the new girl in town; Amber’s sweetheart, Link Larkin (Zac Efron) seems to be falling for Tracy’s charms as well. This dance party gets personal as a bitter feud erupts between the girls as they compete for the coveted “Miss Teenage Hairspray” crown.

At school, however, a short stint in detention opens Tracy’s eyes to a bigger issue than the latest dance craze or the coolest hairdo – racial inequality. Throwing caution to the wind, she leads a march with Motormouth Maybelle (Queen Latifah) to fight for integration and winds up with an arrest warrant instead. Tracy is on the lam now and goes underground – literally – to her best friend Penny Pingleton’s (Amanda Bynes) basement.

Has Tracy’s luck finally run out? Will she miss the final dance-off against Amber and forfeit the title of “Miss Hairspray” or will she sing and dance her way out of trouble again? Can she win the heart of heartthrob Link Larkin and be able to integrate television all without messing up her hairdo?

Well, when big hair meets big dreams anything can happen – and does – in this rock ‘n rolling, comedy.

 

[jefpandas5]

hi
someone could make me a legs and a full pic for cyclops in the pic of the page 3 on the thread X1,X2,X3 promo pics??. The pic was post by Scott&Jean on 06-29-2006, pic next to magneto and Iceman.

thank you very much!!!

 

[MilkmanDan]

However, 90% of the time he's drawn with symmetrical features, a square jaw, broad shoulders, big muscles...etc. I don't know many average guys that have all of those physical traits. Comicbook Logan is specifically drawn to be not attractive and the other extreme is Warren who is basically the X-world version of Brad Pitt. The "ugly ducking" analogy fits Scott perfectly because it implies that he outgrew that persona. He started off as a skinny, awkward orphan who drove people away because of his inability to control his mutation. So he ended up pushing people away and had minimal self-confidence. But in time with Xavier moulding him into a leader and Jean falling in love with him, he grew into his own skin. He just doesn't strike me as the type of guy who acknowledges his looks, like Warren or even Remy, but he still turns heads.

I agree. The real question is whether Marsden is the most suitable person to play such a character. Marsden is not just handsome. He is exceptionally handsome in a way that makes it hard to imagine him as an insecure geek. The role of Cyclops was under-written. When it comes to supporting characters like that, it often helps to cast in a way that the appearance of the actor tells more about the character than the limited amount of lines. (For example any character played by Michael Ironside is tough.) Marsden's looks make him an ideal to play cocky frat-boy types. And that's how large part of the audience saw Cyclops, because they didn't know the character from the comics. An actor who is good-looking in a more down-to-Earth everyman way (a John Cusack-type?) might have made the audience see him in a different light.

 

[triplefive]

James Marsden has mentioned in interviews how unpopular he was in high school because he was so small compared to the jocks, and had big lips, and etc. That clinched his appropriateness for me.
And he has a very small stature; slim, if you will. Aside from the height, he's the perfect build to play Cyclops. And when you cover his eyes, a lot of James' pretty-boy looks go away and you're left with strong cheekbones and jawline, which Cyclops was often drawn with back in the day.

 

[WorthyStevens]

I don't know if any of you guys know this, but Marsden's '10th and Wolf' comes out on DVD on the 19th.

 

[triplefive]

Seriously? I'd been waiting to try to see it in theatres, but I guess I'll just buy it... thanks for the info!

 

[Pizzaboy1138]

I'm not up to date. What's that Wolverine pic there about? Where's Cyke?

http://www.amazon.com/X-Men-End-Boo...ef=sr_1_1/103-9435458-9974202?ie=UTF8&s=books

X-Men: The End Book Three: Men and X-Men (Paperback)

 

[LadyVader]

^Jesus. Her boob is almost as big as her head.

 

[triplefive]

I'm not up to date. What's that Wolverine pic there about? Where's Cyke?

http://www.amazon.com/X-Men-End-Boo...ef=sr_1_1/103-9435458-9974202?ie=UTF8&s=books

X-Men: The End Book Three: Men and X-Men (Paperback)

"The End" was an alternate universe "What if everyone died?" sort of thing... Jean and Scott weren't together in it.

 

[Pizzaboy1138]

"The End" was an alternate universe "What if everyone died?" sort of thing... Jean and Scott weren't together in it.

Thanks.

... and, of course the writers couldn't have them together.

 

[BMM]

^Jesus. Her boob is almost as big as her head.

Haha. They often are . . . the ability of most comic book heroines to support the weight of their chests is a gifted ability in and of itself.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

"The End" was an alternate universe "What if everyone died?" sort of thing... Jean and Scott weren't together in it.

Yes, exactly.

Before Logan/Jean fantasy worshippers chime in with their usual, "Jean and Logan are true love". The bottom line is "The End" is not considered canon at all to the X-Men universe.

In other words what triplefive is pointing out is that it's a "what if" scenario.

 

[triplefive]

Well they had a thing at the end that explained why they weren't together... but it was all very convoluted. I hardly remember it.

ETA: Covers are supposed to be attention grabbing anyway, even if they are sometimes misleading. Like Emma and Wolverine recently in Astonishing, or that cover in the Search for Cyclops with Jean and Apoca-clops (haha).

 

[ntcrawler]

Yes, exactly.

Before Logan/Jean fantasy worshippers chime in with their usual, "Jean and Logan are true love". The bottom line is "The End" is not considered canon at all to the X-Men universe.

In other words what triplefive is pointing out is that it's a "what if" scenario.

Sounds awfully similar to The Last Stand, doesn't it? What IF Jean comes back totally evil and kills everyone starting with Scott and then falls for Logan's love? That sums it up nicely. the only way those visions are going to come to life ar in Logan's dreams. Someone throw some cold water on the man and wake him up

 

[ntcrawler]

ETA: Covers are supposed to be attention grabbing anyway, even if they are sometimes misleading. Like Emma and Wolverine recently in Astonishing, or that cover in the Search for Cyclops with Jean and Apoca-clops (haha).

Yeah, exactly. They do things out of the context of the story or what's inside the book. Unfortunately, sometimes I think that Penn and Kinberg's idea of "reading" the comics was based on looking at the cover artwork alone.

 

[MsNatchios]

Do any other Marsden fans here live near Toronto? I just realized Hairspray is filming here. I'm totally going to check out that set -- they redressed an entire intersection (Dundas and Roncesvalles) to look like 60s Baltimore.

I saw the stage version and I'm not sure if Corny Collins had any outdoor scenes (although I think there may have been one). His were usually in the studio.

James could be showing up to film fest premieres so keep your eyes peeled throughout the city.

 

[triplefive]

Awesome, thanks for the tip! I think I'll still check out the outdoor set because apparently it's amazing.

 

[CapBeerCino]

The problem is Marsden is unbelievably gorgeous. He's a pretty-boy and he knows it. That's not Scott. Marden's Cyclops comes off as the high school jock who's the star athlete, gets the girl and is teacher's pet. He's the type of guy you hate. Then Logan comes off as the outsider who you want to see get the girl away from the jock.

Marsden is unbelievably gorgeous when he's shirtless and staring into the camera with huge blue eyes. When dressed like a dork with his "ruby" glasses, that element tones down.

And I didn't see him as the high school jock who gets the girl. Little moments (like with Xavier) made him vulnerable and far from perfect.

Marsden's Cyke just comes off as just an arrogant, pretty boy jerk, and that's not why X-fans have come to love to hate Scott. Marsden was just miscast.

Jerk? I didn't see nothing in the movie to support that. if they wanted him to be a jerk they wouldn't waste time showing how much he cares for Jean and the professor.

And love to hate Scott? look at his thread - it's the biggest one around. There's lots of Cyclops love.

I think the real problem is TLS - the ******ed death scene he got made everything about movie-verse Scott Summers and his arc lame. I hope Fox chokes on it.

 

[ntcrawler]

Marsden is unbelievably gorgeous when he's shirtless and staring into the camera with huge blue eyes. When dressed like a dork with his "ruby" glasses, that element tones down.

Precisely. I thought that was a damn good real-life representation of Cyke. In fact I thought it was fairly accurate to the handsome but toned down devil from the earlier issues.

And I didn't see him as the high school jock who gets the girl. Little moments (like with Xavier) made him vulnerable and far from perfect.

I didn't either. He may have been athletic, but he didn't have the mentality of a gorilla when it came to getting girls. If he did, instead of getting Jean he would have gotten her drink in his face.

Jerk? I didn't see nothing in the movie to support that. if they wanted him to be a jerk they wouldn't waste time showing how much he cares for Jean and the professor.

I don't see it either. In X1, he saves Wolverine's butt. When introduced to him by the Prof, he offers to shake hands as greetings. What does Wolverine do? Grabs him by the collar and throws insults into his face. Who's the jerk here?

And love to hate Scott? look at his thread - it's the biggest one around. There's lots of Cyclops love.

Cyclops is good for you

I think the real problem is TLS - the ******ed death scene he got made everything about movie-verse Scott Summers and his arc lame. I hope Fox chokes on it.

That is the real problem indeed. Actually it's more than just making his story arc lame. His entire life and that of Jean's became completely pointless. He never had a chance to carry out his mission or fulfill his obligations or promises, either to Xavier and the institute, or to Jean. And yes, if they do choke, I certainly won't be there to give them a heimlick :P

 

[Angamb]

I've just saw the trailer of 10th & the wolf, it appears to be a good film for him, didn't know he was the main character. Glad for him.

 

[cyke93]

as far as casting is concerned, i think marsden is a good fit in terms of look and the personality he gave to cyclops, too bad we didn't get to know him too much cuz they either had him kidnapped or killed before he got to do anything .. but anyways.. i was surprised at how good x-men evolution was. i know it came out after x1 but i never got into it until now... talk about a great show and a great interpretation of scott.. it was nice to see that they could have logan and scott there with out having them fight over jean..

 

[cyke93]

so i see the dvd is coming out soon, anyone bothering to get it .. i wont.. i don't think i could even stomach seeing x3 again. i got over the butchering of cyclops, but they executed a lot of other things so wrong that.. yea i wont be watching .. i just wanna know what these f***** said on the commentary in regards to cyclops.

 

[triplefive]

meh, I hated what they did to Cyclops but I'm a bit of a completist, so I'll be getting at least the director's cut version.

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

check out this pic of cyc http://planetcomics.jp/hero/chara/megane.gif

and what is up for marsden??

 

[triplefive]

I think he's filming Hairspray in Toronto. I'm checking out the outdoor set tomorrow but he apparently doesn't have any outdoor scenes.