Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

What Will Cyclops' Fate Be In X3?

  • Dies At Alkali Lake

  • Never Faces A Life-Threatening Situation

  • Supposedly Dies Early But Returns In The Final Battle

  • Dies In The Final Battle

  • Goes On Sabbatical (after Alkali Lake)


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Even a friend who dosn't read comics asked: "Isn't Cyclops the leader of the Xmen? why did he get such a small part." *Sigh*
 
Cyclops is my favorite character in the comics, but he's so pitiful in all 3 movies. X-Men 1: Be strong leader, tell Logan to stay away from your girl, shoot Magneto. X-Men 2: Get ass kicked by Deathstrike, turn evil, cry over Jean. X-Men 3: Cry over Jean some more, find Jean, die. That's like his whole character arc! I don't think Bryan Singer or Brett Ratner had respect for the character, which is a shame.
 
Max Shrek said:
Cyclops is my favorite character in the comics, but he's so pitiful in all 3 movies. X-Men 1: Be strong leader, tell Logan to stay away from your girl, shoot Magneto. X-Men 2: Get ass kicked by Deathstrike, turn evil, cry over Jean. X-Men 3: Cry over Jean some more, find Jean, die. That's like his whole character arc! I don't think Bryan Singer or Brett Ratner had respect for the character, which is a shame.
I don't think he's too bad in X1. After that it all becomes a joke pretty quickly.

We never got a full beam ZAPPPPPTT!!! something I've always wanted to to see on film. :( It would have been made for the final battle.
 
at least bret had the decency to kill cyclops off
rather than lock him up somewhere the whole movie!
 
Halcohol said:
Or, you know, at least one visible on screen.

The fact that it's not visible on-screen is really one of the few good decisions they made, I figure. That way it's easy to believe he's not dead, maybe even bring him back later (not that they ever would, given how little they think of Cyke).
 
Bishop2 said:
The fact that it's not visible on-screen is really one of the few good decisions they made, I figure. That way it's easy to believe he's not dead, maybe even bring him back later (not that they ever would, given how little they think of Cyke).

They could of still handled Cyclops better than that. They could of easily said he took Nightcrawler back to Germany and for some reason they couldn't get in contact with him when Jean Grey returned. He comes back at the end of the movie when everything is over and with the death of his mentor and girlfriend (again) and mutants pretty much being accepted he could of easily said that there is nothing in the school for him anymore and give the school to Storm.
 
Random said:
They could of still handled Cyclops better than that. They could of easily said he took Nightcrawler back to Germany and for some reason they couldn't get in contact with him when Jean Grey returned. He comes back at the end of the movie when everything is over and with the death of his mentor and girlfriend (again) and mutants pretty much being accepted he could of easily said that there is nothing in the school for him anymore and give the school to Storm.
i prefer have him in a lame role on the Phoenix Saga than the lame "oh, he's on vacation, let's not bother Scott". If it was for him have no role in it at all, i'd be more pissed.
 
Iceman/Psylocke said:
I don't think he's too bad in X1. After that it all becomes a joke pretty quickly.

We never got a full beam ZAPPPPPTT!!! something I've always wanted to to see on film. :( It would have been made for the final battle.

Yeah, he's not THAT bad in X1, he shows potential but still comes off as an ass in some scenes. But in X2, he's just treated horribly and X3 just finishes X2's job.
 
flavio_lebeau said:
i prefer have him in a lame role on the Phoenix Saga than the lame "oh, he's on vacation, let's not bother Scott". If it was for him have no role in it at all, i'd be more pissed.

And I would prefer to see an X-men film where the film makers make an effort to respect Scott and he doesn't say or do anything ******ed.
 
Random said:
And I would prefer to see an X-men film where the film makers make an effort to respect Scott and he doesn't say or do anything ******ed.
duh, thats what i wanted too. But given all the restraints imposed by FOX, i still prefer him IN the movie than out.
 
Max Shrek said:
Yeah, he's not THAT bad in X1, he shows potential but still comes off as an ass in some scenes. But in X2, he's just treated horribly and X3 just finishes X2's job.
In the first film he seemed like a leader, maybe not the strongest, but there was plenty of material to work with for the second film. I really don't understand why they couldn't use Cyke more in X2. Before X3 they had obviously already given up on the character.
 
flavio_lebeau said:
i prefer have him in a lame role on the Phoenix Saga than the lame "oh, he's on vacation, let's not bother Scott". If it was for him have no role in it at all, i'd be more pissed.

doing a "dark" phoenix story with out the involvement of cyclops is complete disregard to the original saga .. i understand that you can not translate everything 100 percent from comic to film .. but main elements of the story should carry over .. like the mansion being located in westchester.. magneto's helmet.. cerebro .. scott and jean !!
 
Iceman/Psylocke said:
In the first film he seemed like a leader, maybe not the strongest, but there was plenty of material to work with for the second film. I really don't understand why they couldn't use Cyke more in X2. Before X3 they had obviously already given up on the character.
You must know that Cyclops was practically nonexistent in the original story of God Loves, Man Kills, but I agree, they should have given him more to do, though he kicked ass with what he was given.
 
i had the strangest dream last night.... a lot of it was lost but i think i was either watching a dvd (prolly the x3 dvd) and i dreamt that at the end credits they did a little promo of like coming next.. no footage just logos and there was one for "Weapon X" and then "The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix" .. i remember thinking to myself, yes fox has rectified their sins and there is justice in the world... n then i woke up
 
Sorry for the bad quality...for some reason my program won't let me take good caps from my X3 DVD, and they all turn out square, and stretched :p Anyways, thought some of these pics might be of interest if you don't have the 2-disc version of X3:

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Ratner looks frustrated in that last shot.

Cyclops: You wouldn't be doing this too Hugh.
Ratner: yea yea yea blah blah.
Famke: :thinking: Think Phoenix think pheonix is he still here? is Ratner still alive?
 
Ratner:God...I know we should have given up on this character! Cyclops is too much intelligent a character for me and Fox to handle! That's why we never be able to explore his potential, coz that'll make us look even more dumb! Why can't we all only have to use brainless characters like Wolverine? All I need to do will be just letting him show off those claws and cut off everything!
 
Ratner: <My.. Jimmy here seems to make more sense then me... heck, even Fox for that matter.. Whoever killed him off so soon ought to be shot..>
 
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