Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[TNC9852002]

Cyclops man-handles three guards by himself, knocks Deathstrike into a wall, gets shot with a dart, and you still complain because she gave him a adamantium kick to the head?

Don't you remember how hard of a time Wolverine had with her?

-TNC

 

[TNC9852002]

yeah, i dunno about a grudge with singer or anything, cos he gave him quite a big part in superman returns so i think it was mainly the fact they gave wolverine more screen time

I have no idea how big of a part he has in Superman, but I don't think it's more or less a "big part", but it could be one of those roles where he's in and out of scenes.

Let us not forget that Wolverine was partially connected to the entire plot of X2 to begin with..

-TNC

 

[aaron]

mmm yeah thats right.

i cant remember what thing i saw on the internet, but apparantly his superman returns role is medium-sized if you can think in those terms.

lol.

 

[Ions]

He's playing Superman's foil. hahah From Wolverine to Superman, the man is moving up the ladder! His role is similar to Jameson's son in Spider-man 2, except he'll actually have a presence.

Yeah that final scene was good looking all grief stricken. He really is a good actor. I wish they'd give him something to work with(so more people would appreciate him and Cyclops).
All the scenes he had that were cut from the script would of been awesome. There was the origin scene with him in a bathroom at high school with his powers appearing and he blows the roof off(alluding to why he likes to be in control) there was also some dialogue from Jean about Cyclops that was cut.
Then there's the scene cut from X-2 script where he(before being mind controlled) would talk with another mutant prisoner in the cell next to his. Later when he was freed he'd open the cell and find Angel.
What other scenes were they talking about doing for Cyclops but cut?

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

in x2 at the end, when theyre in the jet and jeans just gone, everyones sad and they choose to focus on wolverine only, and you can only see the back of cyclops as he leans against wolverine.

that is cheating cyclops so much, he was the one closest to her, so the focus should have been on him.

do you guys agree?

Marsden and the character were both cheated in that scene. That should've been Scott's moment not Wolverine's. What was Bryan thinking? He should've focused on the love of Jean's life not the guy who lusted after her for five minutes.

 

[aaron]

yep, he probably had the hots for jackman

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

Cyclops man-handles three guards by himself, knocks Deathstrike into a wall, gets shot with a dart, and you still complain because she gave him a adamantium kick to the head?

Don't you remember how hard of a time Wolverine had with her?

-TNC

Cyke thought he'd knocked her out and wasn't expecting her to leap across the room and kick him in the head.

I would've liked to have seen a little longer fight scene with the guards but on the other hand Scott taking them out that quickly shows how good of a fighter he is.

 

[aaron]

yeah, did he workout for the role? or did he not bother because he's in full clothing all the time?

 

[TNC9852002]

yep, he probably had the hots for jackman

-TNC

 

[aaron]

lol...who knows

 

[TNC9852002]

*sigh*

-TNC

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

yeah, did he workout for the role? or did he not bother because he's in full clothing all the time?

Marsden said in an interview that Hugh would be working out in a gym trailer (with rock music blasting) while he'd be in his trailer fluffing his hair and singing 'I feel pretty' Marsden does have a pretty nice bod from photos I've seen of him.

 

[aaron]

lol, yeah i can imagine..i imagine hes not big, but athletically toned? definition?

 

[chamber-music]

Cyclops X2 read like this "Wolverines back Grrrr". Xavier and Scott visit Magneto. "Xavier gased Nooooooooooo". Takes on a couple of security guards for about fourty secounds while wolverine gets to take on an entire mansion full of camandos single handedly (collosus punching guys through wall don't count)for about six minutes. Scott gets mule kicked in the head by deathstrike.

Near end of film mind control zombie Cyclops "Scott must Zap Girlfriend". "Scott ok now thanks to jean". Even more near end of film "finally I get to act". cyclops like "Jeans dead dammit I am upset". leans on wolverine then Jackmans like "easy up now scotty your eating into my screentime".

White house scene Singer goes "alright marsden this is your big moment its all a bout you know". Lip tremble. Heavily medicated Singer now angery "Dammit Marsden that lip tremble lasted almost 2 secounds". " Thats valuble time wolverines not on screen". "You know fox is gonna fire my ass now don't you".

End of movie Cyclops "look I get to be in a room with Xavier and wolvereine". "nope have to leave now its the end of the film". Marsden Dammit.

 

[aaron]

lol were frustrated by it aswell man

 

[InsaneMembrane]

Cyclops man-handles three guards by himself, knocks Deathstrike into a wall, gets shot with a dart, and you still complain because she gave him a adamantium kick to the head?

Don't you remember how hard of a time Wolverine had with her?

-TNC

When was this scene I dont remember seeing on the dvd..just deathstrike kicking him

*goes to watch dvd again*

 

[aaron]

yeah he shows a little of his amazing fighting skills

 

[Daniella]

Cyclops man-handles three guards by himself, knocks Deathstrike into a wall, gets shot with a dart, and you still complain because she gave him a adamantium kick to the head?

Yeah TNC, I was wondering why is that Wolverine always get beating up by women in the movie before he can kick their a$$e$...

Dany

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

Bryan Singer,that guy.It's bad enough that he leaves x3 for superman returns.

He brings all the x men crew with him and even steals james marsden from the x men movie.

Why can't he cast any other actor for Richard White?

Now x3 is filming but james marsden is still in australlia filming superman returns.

There will be some delay for filming x3 scenes.I think most of the cast are already in vancouver now.

Halle berry and hugh jackman must be pissed off that filming has to be delay a bit as james marsden haven't arrive on set yet.

What are you talking about? They haven't delayed the filming. It seems they're going ahead without him. I don't know how they can film the mansion scenes without Cyclops unless he's never going to be there.

 

[Lazmarquez]

Bryan Singer,that guy.It's bad enough that he leaves x3 for superman returns.

He brings all the x men crew with him and even steals james marsden from the x men movie.

Why can't he cast any other actor for Richard White?

Now x3 is filming but james marsden is still in australlia filming superman returns.

There will be some delay for filming x3 scenes.I think most of the cast are already in vancouver now.

Halle berry and hugh jackman must be pissed off that filming has to be delay a bit as james marsden haven't arrive on set yet.

Singer had every intention to return for X3, but while FOX was in Limbo trying to figure things out, he was offered Superman. He said he'd retrun afterwards to do X3, but the studio prefered to move on with the project as if it was no big deal that they were using another director..

and whomever said that Singer was just attracted to Hugh Jackman and thats why his scenes were more plentiful... Please find a different excuse, because first, Wolverine is a fan favorite in every sense. We can't change that. He represents testosterone in every sense. The kiddies like him. Singer's sexuality has nothing to do with his directing.

 

[Jan Irisi]

They can't film the mansion scenes without cyclops.

Basically they are going to shoot all the scenes that has no cyclops involved first.

That worries me a bit.

Shooting scenes not in order may confuse the cast and crew and they might not deliver good performances.

Movies almost never shoot scenes in chronological order. No, the cast and crew are not going to get confused at all.

 

[Jan Irisi]

IF Hugh won't come back(and I find this hard to believe, Wolverine is the only thing keeping him him(as an actor) famous) they could just get Dougray Scott back. Bryan Singer cast him originally above Hugh, why was that? Was he better? Wasn't like Dougray Scott was anymore famous(more experienced though) than Hugh, so there had to be a specific reason why. Wolverine as a character is more than just one actor who portrayed him. He has enough personality to be recast and accepted. Especially if they bring up the fact Dougray was originally cast as Wolverine, and filming conflict caused him to have to pull out.

You can't be serious. Dougray Scott was cast and had to pull out because of a conflict. Jackman was called in as an emergency fill in and the rest is history. I truly believe that if Scott was called back to replace Jackman, the outcry would be great and many many people would not accept the replacement.

And no, Wolverine is not the only thing that makes Jackman famous. That's absurd. Wolverine put him on Hollywood's radar, and brought him to everyone's attention, but since then, he's been doing just fine in diffeent roles. He is not a one trick pony, and will be around for a long time to come.

 

[GNR]

Movies almost never shoot scenes in chronological order. No, the cast and crew are not going to get confused at all.

Exactly.

 

[Ions]

You can't be serious. Dougray Scott was cast and had to pull out because of a conflict. Jackman was called in as an emergency fill in and the rest is history. I truly believe that if Scott was called back to replace Jackman, the outcry would be great and many many people would not accept the replacement.

And no, Wolverine is not the only thing that makes Jackman famous. That's absurd. Wolverine put him on Hollywood's radar, and brought him to everyone's attention, but since then, he's been doing just fine in diffeent roles. He is not a one trick pony, and will be around for a long time to come.

I know all of this and I think I clearly said this is what happened. Why are you rewording what I said? How does that counter my saying that Dougray could return if Hugh decides to stop portraying Wolverine(since he's already said before he didn't want to be typecast as Wolverine)? Since he was originally going to portray him it would be a soft sell to X-men fans. Why did you just skip my argument? Did you just skim read and didn't bother to read all of my post because you were in a hurry to rant at me?
Ok name one other character thats successful that he's done? Besides the disappointment that is Van Helsing. And please list all the upcoming important films he has planned that don't involve Wolverine.[Ions waits for more ranting because someone can't be bothered to read a post properly]

 

[Jan Irisi]

I know all of this and I think I clearly said this is what happened. Why are you rewording what I said? How does that counter my saying that Dougray could return if Hugh decides to stop portraying Wolverine(since he's already said before he didn't want to be typecast as Wolverine)? Since he was originally going to portray him it would be a soft sell to X-men fans. Why did you just skip my argument? Did you just skim read and didn't bother to read all of my post because you were in a hurry to rant at me?
Ok name one other character thats successful that he's done? Besides the disappointment that is Van Helsing. And please list all the upcoming important films he has planned that don't involve Wolverine.[Ions waits for more ranting because someone can't be bothered to read a post properly]

Yes, I did read what you posted. I guess I get annoyed when folks seem to imply the guy has nothing else going for him except Wolverine. "Wolverine is the only thing that's keeping him, as an actor, famous". That is far from the truth. And Dougray Scott was not "cast above Hugh" as Hugh was not in the picture when casting was done. Hugh was simply "emergency" casting. Scott was not cast "above" Hugh at all. Hugh did not audition for the part before hand, and had no connection with the film until after Scott pulled out and they needed a replacement fast. He was on stage in Oklahoma.

No, I had no intention to rant at you at all. Sorry if it appeared that was the case, because it wasn't.

And it is not a case of Hugh having a successful character besides Wolverine on his resume. I am going by reviews he has received for roles he has played. While some of the projects he has been involved in have been less than stellar, much of his press has been extremely good, as in he was the best part of many of the projects he's been in. And on his horizon, he has two animated films, the movie version of the play Good, The Fountain (which has been getting good word of mouth), a three picture deal with Disney to star in musicals, and he has an open invitation to return to Broadway at any time, and there is talk of a film which will star an all Australian cast about Viet Nam that is in the works, if he can fit it in his schedule.

So the man is not all about Wolverine. He owes a lot to the character, and was fortunate to get the part and was fortunate to shine in the part, but it is not all he has.