Days of Future Past Official Jason Flemyng cast as Azazel Thread

[Nokio]

2) ties in thematically to the Hellfire Club because of the fiery teleporting and devilish look

I think you have to look a bit beyond the 'wahhhhh, it's not the same as in the comics.'

Ties in to the Hellfire Club???? What is exactly is the Hellfire Club again? I missed it in the movies. I sat there for the whole thing but I just heard Moira mention it once in passing and poof! no more.

Not the same as the comics? How about not the same as nothing.

 

[ciscostudent561]

Lmao fanboys are still crying about it not matching the comics? Haha

 

[X-Maniac]

Ties in to the Hellfire Club???? What is exactly is the Hellfire Club again? I missed it in the movies. I sat there for the whole thing but I just heard Moira mention it once in passing and poof! no more.

Not the same as the comics? How about not the same as nothing.

It was a casino/nightclub through which Shaw, Frost etc, conducted their activities and used as a place to conduct meetings with influential people. It obviously wasn't envisaged as anything more than that, at least in this film. I don't think that - the way this film was scripted - it really needed any more explanation.

But another mention might have been nice, I agree, to say that it was the cover Shaw had been using to carry out his operations and build a powerbase.

 

[The Morningstar]

Lmao fanboys are still crying about it not matching the comics? Haha

Yea, they really need to shut up.

 

[Midnight Black]

Yeah, I thought the character was good and fit with the story. Could have had a larger speaking role...way larger, especially given how powerful he was. Azazel doesn't really seem like the henchman type (not referencing the comics) given his powers, he should have been more of a partner to Shaw.

Heck, he should have been the owner of the Hellfire Club as someone mentioned which would have been at least a reason for the name, especially since this movie was so big on giving explanations for things (i.e. beast building blackbird, cerebro, syrum, flight suits, havok and banshee's special suits; mystique coming up with Charles and Erik's names, etc.)

 

[JimB]

Azazel next to Shaw and Magneto, was my third favorite character in the film. I know very little of this mutant, so I think that made it have a higher impact on me. He looked silent and menacing like a guy of few words but lethal when it comes to fighting.

Actually I liked that we didn't have an introduction of him and Riptide in the movie which added an aura of mystery to them. They reminded me a bit of the Matrix evil agents which I liked it.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

I'd like them to explore him a little bit more. It's still pretty interesting how such a recognizable actor like Jason Flemyng, which I'm sure is close friends with Vaughn, went through such a transformation to play this quiet killer type..

 

[JimB]

I think for the sequel that would be good, and I think the fact that he's an unknown actor to me also helped to have a higher impression on me.

But I don't know, I was satisfied with the way they portrayed this amazing character for starters

 

[jacobed]

The next one should be rated R just for Azazel's action scenes. I wonder if Vaughn liked having tame censored sword action especially after Kick Ass.

 

[SuperSoldier985]

I think for the sequel that would be good, and I think the fact that he's an unknown actor to me also helped to have a higher impression on me.

He's not really an unknown. He's one of those guys that you see pop up in movies and go, "hey, I've seen this guy before in something.."

 

[jacobed]

He is in every Vaughn movie I believe. Him and Vaughn are good friends

 

[The Morningstar]

He was also in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrells. And he played Brad Pitt's brother in Snatch.

And he was in League of Extraodinary Gentlemen as Jekyll and Hyde.

 

[Nokio]

He was also in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrells. And he played Brad Pitt's brother in Snatch.

And he was in League of Extraodinary Gentlemen as Jekyll and Hyde.

He was in Hanna too.

 

[Nokio]

It was a casino/nightclub through which Shaw, Frost etc, conducted their activities and used as a place to conduct meetings with influential people. It obviously wasn't envisaged as anything more than that, at least in this film. I don't think that - the way this film was scripted - it really needed any more explanation.

But another mention might have been nice, I agree, to say that it was the cover Shaw had been using to carry out his operations and build a powerbase.

A Casino? Why was political leaders and top Military brass even meeting with this man? Cause he ran a casino with some high end call girls?? Sorry that's enough. Shaw should've been more like Shaw in the comics. Where he is CEO of Shaw Industries, you know a huge and powerful corporation that can actually influence the GOV. Much like the ones today in the real world. HE is also part of this elite club for the ultra wealthy that has been around for over a century. Was that too much to ask??? Instead we are treated with a Shaw who's just ordering top military officials around with his words and no real tangible leverage. I want jupiter missiles in Turkey, you will make it happen. I want warheads in Cuba, you will make it happen?? Really? Why? Lazy writing. If you gonna dump Harry Lelund, Pierce, Selene, and Mastermind at least Give Azazel and Riptide a purpose. Have them heads of their own Companies. Banking or something. Emma's a telepath, maybe she was mentally nudging them on. She goes to Russia and what, give the man the illusion of him sexing her and that's enough for him to place missiles in Cuba and risk war?? Just give a reason why these people have power over political leaders and top military brass. This isn't me being a purist but actually wanting something credible in a film.

 

[ciscostudent561]

Not lazy writing actually. The why us simple.

General/commander is placing missiles in weird places and the CIA wants to know why.

They follow him and he happens to be at a casino where his mind is being controlled.

Dude ur just a silly fanboy who can't get over the fact that this story couldn't fit in a large corporation.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I like what they did with Azazel, and did exactly what they should have to make him fit into the X-men movie canon. A comic book can go anywhere, but a mainstream movie has to set some parameters: X-men on film is about humans with genetic mutations. No aliens, no gods, no magic, no demons.

SpiderMan 3 and Fantastic Four 2 are two examples of suddenly introducing a new universe into a story weakens it fatally from the beginning.

 

[X-Maniac]

A Casino? Why was political leaders and top Military brass even meeting with this man? Cause he ran a casino with some high end call girls?? Sorry that's enough. Shaw should've been more like Shaw in the comics. Where he is CEO of Shaw Industries, you know a huge and powerful corporation that can actually influence the GOV. Much like the ones today in the real world. HE is also part of this elite club for the ultra wealthy that has been around for over a century. Was that too much to ask??? Instead we are treated with a Shaw who's just ordering top military officials around with his words and no real tangible leverage. I want jupiter missiles in Turkey, you will make it happen. I want warheads in Cuba, you will make it happen?? Really? Why? Lazy writing. If you gonna dump Harry Lelund, Pierce, Selene, and Mastermind at least Give Azazel and Riptide a purpose. Have them heads of their own Companies. Banking or something. Emma's a telepath, maybe she was mentally nudging them on. She goes to Russia and what, give the man the illusion of him sexing her and that's enough for him to place missiles in Cuba and risk war?? Just give a reason why these people have power over political leaders and top military brass. This isn't me being a purist but actually wanting something credible in a film.

blah, blah, more of this make it like the comics nonsense, you really can't stop playing that record, can you?

We didn't know the exact extent of the Hellfire Club, just that it had one public face as a casino/club in that scene...

It matches the description from the Marvel wiki:

Today, the Hellfire Club is an overt, worldwide organization. Famous for its lavish annual gala, it is open to the wealthiest and most influential entrepreneurs, politicians and socialites, whose membership is traditionally passed on to the heirs of their estates. Within the Club at large is a secret cabal, known only to a select few. These Inner Circles, of which there are typically one or two at a time, desire to achieve world domination through political and economic influence, subversive activities and the recruitment of mercenary forces and powerful superhumans.

Now quite clearly, powerful people like the Colonel went there and we saw the Inner Circle of Shaw, Frost, Azazel, Riptide. We couldn't get the entire history of it in one film; it's taken the comics decades to establish its full backstory. To expect much more in this film is being a bit picky. You can't fit EVERY detail about EVERY character and scenario in every film. This is a typical complaint from diehard comic book fanatics who can't accept economical storytelling and want a 20-hour movie.

 

[The Morningstar]

Exactly. The comics are infinite. They're on going. You can develop characters and themes over a span of decades.

A film is 2 hours long.

 

[Deaths Head II]

SpiderMan 3 and Fantastic Four 2 are two examples of suddenly introducing a new universe into a story weakens it fatally from the beginning.

I don't think the concept behind those two films were the problems. Especially not FF2. The Silver Surfer elements were the only good parts of that film, really.

 

[JimB]

He's not really an unknown. He's one of those guys that you see pop up in movies and go, "hey, I've seen this guy before in something.."

That's why I said he was unknown to me, and also the make up made him unrecognizable even If there is the possibility that I seen him before

 

[JimB]

He is in every Vaughn movie I believe. Him and Vaughn are good friends

To be honest, I haven't seen any of Vaughn movies. Actually I don't see too many movies in general, and Kick Ass I only saw bits here and there.

 

[JimB]

He was also in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrells. And he played Brad Pitt's brother in Snatch.

And he was in League of Extraodinary Gentlemen as Jekyll and Hyde.

Out of those movies, I have only seen TLOEG, and it's been a while that I remember little of some actors except for Connery.

 

[JimB]

BTW, thanks for the tidbits regarding this well known actor. He did great as Azazel.

 

[The Morningstar]

Oh you need to watch Lock, Stock and Snatch. They are hilarious. In Snatch Brad Pitt plays a drunken, thieving, bare knuckle boxing Irish gypsy.

Yes, it is insane as it sounds.

 

[JimB]

Oh you need to watch Lock, Stock and Snatch. They are hilarious. In Snatch Brad Pitt plays a drunken, thieving, bare knuckle boxing Irish gypsy.

Yes, it is insane as it sounds.

I believe you because my niece and her bf told me something similar to that effect