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1) Unlikely.

It's unlikely since Gale hasn't done a damn thing to change my mind. Definitely not enough to show she has the acting cred above better candidates like MEW, Hathaway, de la Garza, Helfer, Baccarin and the rest.
2) Defending a person from attacks seems to me far better than attacking.

Attacks aren't weird, though. Especially about controversial subjects with celebrities.

And attacks from conjectures.

Attacks based on legitimate concerns. We're not discussing someone with a resume who comes close to showing she can do the role or a person with much training or experience in acting, period. That's not conjecture, it's fact.

3) Directed to a person, with insistence,

Because of how dire the situation with the franchise is. Not that anyone with her resume should be anywhere near a complex super-heroine role.

based on conjectures

Based on facts.

and set to discredit her.

She discredits herself.
 
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No offense Major, but since noone has seen Megan Gale act as WW, except perhaps for George Miller in her audition, any conclusions on how she would have done in the role ARE based on conjecture. (A role, btw, that we have very little idea about what was asked of the performer in terms of acting as opposed to physical presence. There still isn't any credible script review out there.) Perhaps reasonable conjecture, but conjecture all the same. There's no way to dress it up otherwise.
 
It's unlikely since Gale hasn't done a damn thing to change my mind. Definitely not enough to show she has the acting cred above better candidates like MEW, Hathaway, de la Garza, Helfer, Baccarin and the rest.


Attacks aren't weird, though. Especially about controversial subjects with celebrities.



Attacks based on legitimate concerns. We're not discussing someone with a resume who comes close to showing she can do the role or a person with much training or experience in acting, period. That's not conjecture, it's fact.



Because of how dire the situation with the franchise is. Not that anyone with her resume should be anywhere near a complex super-heroine role.



Based on facts.



She discredits herself.


Well, there's really nothing I can tell you that would show better how unbalanced you are on that issue than your own words above.

It's really weird, way beyond just "passionate".
 
Well, there's really nothing I can tell you that would show better how unbalanced you are on that issue than your own words above.

You haven't logically disputed a single thing I've said.

Exactly what did I say that was unbalanced? Because you say so? :whatever:

It's really weird, way beyond just "passionate".

No, it isn't. I've always been logical in choosing my reasons for why Gale is wrong for role with actual evidence to back it up.

Nor am I the only one who thinks that way in this forum and I can guarantee what I've been saying about Gale will seem like I'm her biggest fan if she managed to fail in the WW role. The backlash would not only possibly kill her acting career but make her a laughing stock to the public but every casual and hard core WW fan would hate her guts for killing the property for another generation. Unlike the other candidates she has neither the experience to deal with that backlash or the public's confidence she can succeed in other acting roles.
 
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George Miller is a great director, and he liked Megan Gale's acting. I trust him.

Moving on: Omacs. Do you think they'd work in a movie?
 
George Miller is a great director, and he liked Megan Gale's acting. I trust him.

Moving on: Omacs. Do you think they'd work in a movie?

most definitely. when i was reading it first thing that occurred to me was how great this would look live action on the big screen.

and just to toss my two bits in regarding Megan Gale: she has a great personality in interviews and speaks her mind well enough. i know those are hardly qualifications for being a good actress, but with that i'm willing to give her a chance.
 
Moving on: Omacs. Do you think they'd work in a movie?
Time may tell at some point in the future, if they choose to start with them. I personally don't like them; but they may be the the best villain to start off with to keep from bringing in the heavy hitters from the offset. Much like how Batman Begins started out with smaller less popular or less widely, well known characters.

Writing and the usage of characters, and mature motivations, imo, are first most.
 
Would it possible, and maybe for the best, NOT to have Batman in a JLA film? I mean, right now every DC film that is not Batman is being looked at andf therefore having some problems (Superman being rebooted, question mark for Green Lantern, Captain Marvel's latest try out being dead, and finally the continung development hell for Wonder Woman and Flash). JLA was meant to help reinvent Superman and finally launch the character franchises out of development hell. Since Batman isn't a problem, and it would be for the best to respect the director's ideas and not have two Batmen nor try to have or even force the Nolanverse with other superhero universes (since Nolan himself made the desicion that Batman was the ONLY superhero in his films universe), how about not having Batman in the JLA? It would make more sense and therefore be better when they try to write and get it off the ground. Plus, it's not like a version of the League without Batman there wasn't successful.

to for e the Nolanverse would it be
 
Batman should be in.

I think he should be a shadowy character that would help define and clear two or three things inthe movie. Not speaking much, but to the point in every occasion, and a tad cruel.

Justice League needs to be a movie that can handle Nolan's take on the character, otherwise it is pointless.

It must be something along the lines of Kingdom Come, overall, even for Superman's sake, too. The next mistake with Supes, he's dead for movies.

They must understand a new Supes will need to be more like Alex Ross envisaged him.
 
Batman was a member of the Justice League before Nolan made Batman Begins, so, i think Batman should't be left out because the realistic portrait Nolan gave him. They should simply make Batman fit the JLA world, and convince Christian Bale to be in the movie. The general public would't notice a thing. The only ones that could (Possibly) complain would be fanboys and some critics. But the movie would be a hit. It's the Justice League, after all. :woot:

About the portrayal, i think Superman should be a mix of Geoff Johns and Alex Ross portraids. A Natural leader, a powerfull man and a real superhero. He's good of heart, but when it's necessary, he can tought and badass. I like the Omacs as villains because they're robots, so, Superman would't have to contain himself and could show how powerfull he really is. Can you imagine Superman vs. 100.000. Omacs at once? :wow:
 
Would it possible, and maybe for the best, NOT to have Batman in a JLA film? I mean, right now every DC film that is not Batman is being looked at andf therefore having some problems (Superman being rebooted, question mark for Green Lantern, Captain Marvel's latest try out being dead, and finally the continung development hell for Wonder Woman and Flash). JLA was meant to help reinvent Superman and finally launch the character franchises out of development hell. Since Batman isn't a problem, and it would be for the best to respect the director's ideas and not have two Batmen nor try to have or even force the Nolanverse with other superhero universes (since Nolan himself made the desicion that Batman was the ONLY superhero in his films universe), how about not having Batman in the JLA? It would make more sense and therefore be better when they try to write and get it off the ground. Plus, it's not like a version of the League without Batman there wasn't successful.

to for e the Nolanverse would it be

I say Batman out... if Bale doesn't want to do it. Pick up with the solo movies and then recast Batman when its time to finally make the film. If Bale agrees I'd do a JL movie first before going ahead with Flash or WW or even GL. I'd do the Supes reboot before the JL movie though.
 
I say Batman out... if Bale doesn't want to do it. Pick up with the solo movies and then recast Batman when its time to finally make the film.

Agreed.

If Bale agrees I'd do a JL movie first before going ahead with Flash or WW or even GL.

They could do a World's Finest for Bale to keep Nolan's Batman busy until JLA.

JLA is just to big a risk to do immediately before the solo movies IMO. It tanking would take all the lesser franchises with it. You can avoid that with WF, allow more time for the solos and keep Bale's Batman around all without putting the vulnerable franchises in danger.

I'd do the Supes reboot before the JL movie though.
Agreed.
 
They could do a World's Finest for Bale to keep Nolan's Batman busy until JLA.

:whatever:... yeah let's get Bale to do WF, then JLA, then lets get Nolan to do a fourth... or lets pick up with a Synder directed Dark Knight Returns movie... then let's get Bale to come back when he is 70 years old for Batman Beyond. Guys, he can't do this bull **** forever. It's one or the other. With the failure that was Superman Returns... the opportunity for a WF film is gone... there won't be time to relaunch the Superman franchise to merit a meaningful WF film while Bale/Nolan are finishing up their franchise. If you ask me... it's a waste of time rebooting Supes now that I think of it... just sign a big name for Kent and go straight to a JLA movie. I'd think the movie would bomb either way since the budget would be too damn high.

JLA is just to big a risk to do immediately before the solo movies IMO. It tanking would take all the lesser franchises with it. You can avoid that with WF, allow more time for the solos and keep Bale's Batman around all without putting the vulnerable franchises in danger.

Which is why I said... flesh out all the solo films for a good six years (unlike Marvel)... then go into JLA movie... without Bale (for the mere reason that he'd grow out of the character by then). That is the only way to build some credibility with these characters. Superman reboot 2012... GL, WW, Flash, between 2012-2014... maybe even some Superman/GL sequels... before a JLA movie. Now let's hypthetically say you make the Superman sequel a WF film... with Bale. Then you pretty much have to lock him up for a JLA movie if all these films going to even lead into something greater... how much would his contract alone cost? 65-80 million... easily... look at Depp's rumored contract for POTC 4... or Maguire's contract for SM4/5. I mean is that practical at all? The point I am making... and the point I have been making all along... if they are going to do this right... I don't think Nolan/Bale or any part of the current Batman franchise should be involved with the rest of the DC universe... .. simply because it's too late to make amends.
 
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Justice League. With Batman. Movie able to adapt Nolanverse. Restart Supes with it, Alex Ross's style.
 
Why do Gale supporters keep bringing up the same points which have already been dealt with again and again?

George Miller is a great director, and he liked Megan Gale's acting. I trust him.

George Miller hasn't directed a live action film in over a decade; his last one was the lousy and weird Babe 2: Pig in the City.

He also approached Megan Gale for the role, completely unsolicited by her. Even though she had no real acting experience. Is it wrong to question how great her private audition was, when the only guy who's telling us she was good is the guy who targeted her BEFORE knowing she could act?

Again, people aren't supposed to prove a negative. Gale's detractors don't need to show that she can't act. People need to show that she can.

Until then she's just a huge risk, one that the WB, the character of Wonder Woman, and the fans shouldn't take. Why get Gale, when hot women who have acted in TV and movies are a dime a dozen in Hollywood? Gale herself admitted that she was happy the movie got derailed so she would have more time to take acting lessons. That's not something a real actress who was confident in her skills would say.

Finally, the JL "Mortal" (what a stupid name) project is dead for the time being. People need to stop bringing this up again and again, as if it isn't possible to move past a non-actress like Gale.
 
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:whatever:... yeah let's get Bale to do WF, then JLA, then lets get Nolan to do a fourth... or lets pick up with a Synder directed Dark Knight Returns movie... then let's get Bale to come back when he is 70 years old for Batman Beyond. Guys, he can't do this bull **** forever. It's one or the other. With the failure that was Superman Returns... the opportunity for a WF film is gone... there won't be time to relaunch the Superman franchise to merit a meaningful WF film while Bale/Nolan are finishing up their franchise. If you ask me... it's a waste of time rebooting Supes now that I think of it... just sign a big name for Kent and go straight to a JLA movie. I'd think the movie would bomb either way since the budget would be too damn high.



Which is why I said... flesh out all the solo films for a good six years (unlike Marvel)... then go into JLA movie... without Bale (for the mere reason that he'd grow out of the character by then). That is the only way to build some credibility with these characters. Superman reboot 2012... GL, WW, Flash, between 2012-2014... maybe even some Superman/GL sequels... before a JLA movie. Now let's hypthetically say you make the Superman sequel a WF film... with Bale. Then you pretty much have to lock him up for a JLA movie if all these films going to even lead into something greater... how much would his contract alone cost? 65-80 million... easily... look at Depp's rumored contract for POTC 4... or Maguire's contract for SM4/5. I mean is that practical at all? The point I am making... and the point I have been making all along... if they are going to do this right... I don't think Nolan/Bale or any part of the current Batman franchise should be involved with the rest of the DC universe... .. simply because it's too late to make amends.

I can agree with that.
 
I agree with you, FaT_tONle, as well. But, there is also my reason why the Nolanverse cannot be canon with all the other films including JLA: it was never meant for that at all. When Nolan developed Batman Begins, he made the desicion that ONLY Batman exists, no other superheroes past presrnt or future from that film. The two ways to do this are either: a) you introduce once in each characters' franchises and then reintroduce all of them again in the team-up series, or b) Superman-whoever, not Batman, become part of the JLA.

P.S. my wish is to not have the JLA as the first film, but WF first (first Superman/Batman team-up (NOT FIGHT!), then Trinity (two leads to three with Wonder Woman), and then finally with JLA. But with any take on JLA, before or after the solo films, they have to make sure the number of heroes is small (4-5). Otherwise its just too crowded. Sorry guys, but that is the truth, and you can't deny that.
 
yea jl mortal is dead and buried and with all the development problems for all dc characters besides gl/hex right now who knows if we are ever going to see ww/flash/jla happen within the next 5-8 yrs untill there is some serious changes within wb and dc.
 
Watchmen writers appear to dismiss doing a JL script.

IESB: (Now that) You've both done Watchmen. There are still other crown jewels in the DC and Marvel Universe. Like the Justice League. Is that something that you've both considered, or looked at, in terms of a Justice League film? I know they're doing that at Warner Bros. Or even Superman...

TSE: Well, there are already scripts for Justice League and they're already engaged with writers.

HAYTER: They're already down the road. I wouldn't... when, Bryan took on Superman, I was like, you know I'm up for anything, but...I wouldn't want to take on Superman. Each property has its joys and its pitfalls. The Justice League is a very daunting prospect. I mean, it can be done. Anything can be done. It's multi-character, but it's also very expensive and you're dealing with a lot of studio pressures.

TSE: And a lot of mythologies...

HAYTER: And they don't necessarily mesh. I don't know...

TSE: And because with something like say, Justice League, you have to be conscious of the fact that these characters they will want to have each of these individuals to have their own movies. It'd also be very limiting, also what DC's input would be regarding the direction you take these characters.

HAYTER: They have all these rules to make sure you don't devastate these prime characters.

TSE: And continuity.
http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6392&Itemid=99
 
Miller still claims he's attached, but that a JLA film is "a fair way down the track".

EXCLUSIVE: ‘Justice League’ Movie Still A Possibility, Says Director… Just Not Anytime Soon

Published by Casey Seijas on Monday, March 9, 2009 at 8:31 am.

"The Dark Knight” was a proven success, both critically and financially. If fan reaction can be believed, Warner Bros. seems to be pushing all the right buttons for an upcoming “Green Lantern” feature film to follow suit. Mention a “Superman” revamp, a “Wonder Woman” casting rumor or the latest scuttlebutt on Marvel’s sure-to-be-geekgasmic “Avengers” project, and watch the message boards light up.

Clearly fans want to see what would arguably be the Holy Grail of comic book flicks, “Justice League,” but given all of the news lately regarding a possible “JLA” flick being delayed indefinitely, should we even bother getting our hopes up? Attached director George Miller thinks so…just don’t hold your breath.

“I’m still attached to the film,” said Miller in an exclusive chat with MTV. “Warner Bros. is waiting to develop the other characters a little bit and then bring ‘Justice League’ together. After the success of ["The Dark Knight"], it’s well known that they will develop the other characters and then bring them together in ‘Justice League’. That’s a fair way down the track.”

Miller has long been the voice of a “Justice League” film, always there to remind DC-ites that it’s indeed still alive and that he is still on board to direct (even when news outlets say that he’s not), but it looks like Warner Bros. and DC Comics are officially following Marvel’s model of releasing single-hero movies that would build up to an ensemble film.

In any event, be sure to keep it tuned to Splash Page for more on Miller and “Justice League” as it’s announced.

Would you like to see “Justice League” happen? Are you patient enough to wait until Warner Bros. releases solo-films on its possible members?
http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/03/0...sibility-says-director-just-not-anytime-soon/

Further confirmation that WB is going to continue following Marvel's model.
 
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