Official Rulk Thread

[PhotoJones]

Yeah, it says that, too, further down.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I guess the case was ongoing, but then she got her powers back so she dropped the suit and just went off to be a bounty hunter.

 

[BrianWilly]

You can always ask Slott.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Or I could look at my back-issues. But I'm at work. And, really, even if I were at home I don't really care enough to overcome my natural laziness.

 

[PhotoJones]

I don't really want to ask anyone at Marvel about it's past continuity, Slott included.

 

[Obi-Ron]

I don't really want to ask anyone at Marvel about it's past continuity, Slott included.

Oh Well, since marvel doesn't care about its continuity spidey why should we?

 

[PhotoJones]

I still care about the continuity, even if Marvel doesn't. I was just commenting on how I'm not interested in having Marvel explain it's own continuity to me anymore.

 

[Red]

Yeah. Didn't Captain Marvel die from cancer due to radiation, though?

Anyway, whatever. The second part of Loeb's interview with Wordballoon made me like him less, although he did have some fun stories about Hollywood and Gene Simmons and stuff.

What was so wrong with the interview Sure he goes off one and can't seem to give an simple answer, but overall I enjoyed it.

 

[PhotoJones]

I enjoy Loeb's interviews when he pretends to like Bendis' work.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

What was so wrong with the interview Sure he goes off one and can't seem to give an simple answer, but overall I enjoyed it.

Oh, I don't mind his long answers. I like when creators tell stories about "the biz." They're fun, and they give you cool insights into the behind-the-scenes stuff you'd otherwise never know about. I mostly just didn't really agree with his work ethic regarding comics. He treats them like a secondary job, he subtly condescends to the medium as a whole, he pretty much admits that he doesn't read comics for anything other than whether his buddies happen to be writing or drawing them. I guess I like to think that all the guys who get to deal with these characters are fans of them. I knew on some level that wasn't true, but I liked to delude myself. Loeb's not a fan of any characters; he just wants to leave his mark on stuff he liked as a kid in between "real" jobs. At least, that's the impression I got.

 

[PhotoJones]

You got a different impression than I did.

I think Loeb likes the characters as much as he ever did. He just doesn't have the time to pour over every book and analyze every bit of characterization like we do. The man has more than one full time job. Comics are something he clearly does for fun, so I don't know how you could say that he doesn't care about them. They're just not his top priority, and I can understand that.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I can understand it too. I just don't like it. Like Heinberg, if comics are such a low priority, just spare himself and us the stress and stick to movies and TV. I don't like the idea that he's somehow slumming by deigning to participate in the process of creating comics.

 

[BrianWilly]

Whedon likes him, so he's got my seal of approval.









What?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

You really are a very simple man.

 

[PhotoJones]

I can understand it too. I just don't like it. Like Heinberg, if comics are such a low priority, just spare himself and us the stress and stick to movies and TV. I don't like the idea that he's somehow slumming by deigning to participate in the process of creating comics.

Who says he's slumming it? You? Loeb does it because HE LIKES IT.

 

[BrianWilly]

You really are a very simple man.

Whedon's love can cleanse even the foul, rancid filth and ****ing fckery of Supergirl from my mind.

...


... Or maybe not.

 

[PhotoJones]

Goddamn. I've never seen anyone embrace mediocrity like BW's love for Joss Whedon.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Who says he's slumming it? You? Loeb does it because HE LIKES IT.

Yeah, and he turns out products that tend to be pretty craptastic most of the time (unless Sale is involved). I'd much rather see creators who actually love the characters for more than just the fact that they happen to be getting to write them at that moment put out better stories. I also don't really like the fact that he's not interested in actually building on the characters in any way, shape, or form. His whole idea of good comics seems to skew far more toward the shock and awe crap that Millar and Bendis put out than any of the intelligent, well-plotted stuff of better writers like Brubaker and Johns.

 

[BrianWilly]

Goddamn. I've never seen anyone embrace mediocrity like BW's love for Joss Whedon.

People are buying BND. Come again, son?




Yeah, really, that's pretty much all I got.

 

[Red]

You got a different impression than I did.

I think Loeb likes the characters as much as he ever did. He just doesn't have the time to pour over every book and analyze every bit of characterization like we do. The man has more than one full time job. Comics are something he clearly does for fun, so I don't know how you could say that he doesn't care about them. They're just not his top priority, and I can understand that.

This was how I understood it.

 

[PhotoJones]

Yeah, and he turns out products that tend to be pretty craptastic most of the time (unless Sale is involved). I'd much rather see creators who actually love the characters for more than just the fact that they happen to be getting to write them at that moment put out better stories. I also don't really like the fact that he's not interested in actually building on the characters in any way, shape, or form. His whole idea of good comics seems to skew far more toward the shock and awe crap that Millar and Bendis put out than any of the intelligent, well-plotted stuff of better writers like Brubaker and Johns.

Where are you getting that Loeb doesn't love the characters? I mean, that seems to be the basis for your beef with him, but I haven't got that impression from him and I've never heard him outright say as much.

People are buying BND. Come again, son?

I don't see people jumping at the chance to give BND a *******, son.

 

[BrianWilly]

Have you seen Blader and Xofenroht's posts?

 

[PhotoJones]

They've specifically mentioned that they want to blow BND?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Where are you getting that Loeb doesn't love the characters? I mean, that seems to be the basis for your beef with him, but I haven't got that impression from him and I've never heard him outright say as much.

It's not that he doesn't love the characters so much as he doesn't really care to build anything onto them. He admits that he doesn't care about any sort of progressing story arcs, he just wants to have his fun with whatever character he's into at the moment and move on. That makes for shallow fluff comics, not anything genuinely good. At least for his work on characters in the present. The color series and his collaborations with Sale on Batman managed to be pretty insightful to the characters. I'd love to see more of that kind of work from him.

 

[PhotoJones]

It's not that he doesn't love the characters so much as he doesn't really care to build anything onto them. He admits that he doesn't care about any sort of progressing story arcs, he just wants to have his fun with whatever character he's into at the moment and move on. That makes for shallow fluff comics, not anything genuinely good. At least for his work on characters in the present. The color series and his collaborations with Sale on Batman managed to be pretty insightful to the characters. I'd love to see more of that kind of work from him.

He didn't say that at all. What he said was that RIGHT NOW with the HULK BOOK, he just wants to write a "smash and bash" story with his pal McG. There's nothing wrong with that. Hell, more mindless fun done right is always welcome, in my opinion. If that was his goal all of the time, which it isn't and he's NEVER SAID IT WAS, then you might have a point.