Official Rulk Thread

[Colossal Spoons]

Didn't know the transformations were so random lol

 

[WolfCypher]

Who didn't like the Professor? He had most of Savage's strength, all of Banner's intellect, and he actually used more than just nouns and verbs to speak!

My only problem with the Professor is that he never went ape-**** like Savage Hulk. Don't tell me being a smarter Hulk means he can't be vicious, cause Green Scar proves otherwise. If the Professor would let lose big time, he'd be the perfect, non-Green Scar Hulk ever.

I 1st starting reading Hulk comics around the 450th issue, give or take. I remember Hulk was both smart (enough) and brutal. I think this was my 1st issue that made me care about the Hulk.

 

[Eros]

Professor Hulk doesn't sell comics, Its the smash first scenarios that savage Hulk and other Hulks [like world war Hulk] bring to the table, that sells comics. Nobody wants to read a Hulk comicwhere hulk tries talking his way out of a big battle. Its that savage bruatality of classic Hulk, the Conan like personality of World War Hulk, the bad gangster attuide of Gey Hulk that people like. Professor hulk made hulk seem like just another superhero adventurer, Marvel has to many of that.

 

[Mr. Green]

Good point, Eros. But to be fair, Professor-Hulk did have moments where he would lose his temper and it did sell in the 90s with PAD -- but you're right, it really doesn't compare to how bad-ass the savage Hulk is.

 

[The Shredder]

Well if Loeb keep things up we might get to see Prof Hulk, maybe thats the direction Loeb is going, maybe thats why the Dumb Hulk came back instead oh WWHulk. So we get Dumb Hulk then the Gray Hulk who knows what we'll get next.

Marvel should just go ahead and exploit all of the core Hulk incarnations where we would see our own personal favourite at a much rapid pace (similar to what Jenkins did in his run) rather than having to wait months, and often years for a particular Hulk (especially a favourite) to re-appear.

 

[Spade]

Personally, I don't see the point to making him stupid or snide all over again. My favorite Hulk so far has been the Green Scar. Maybe they could de-power him a bit, but overall he's the one they should stick with. I'm tired of seeing them return to the cycling transformations. It's old. I wanted to see Mr. Fixit about as much as I wanted to see the Savage Hulk again. Nothing against either one, but they're part of an era of Hulk that's been done to death.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

There still is no explanation why Green Scar is another personality when he was meant to be savage Hulk who had integrated the Banner personality. I would guess he was created through the trauma of knowing his own freind/ally caused the loss of his wife and he believes his son.

The Professor was great a the merged Hulk before he became the Professor which got even worse when he would become "savage" Banner if he got too enraged.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Professor Hulk doesn't sell comics, Its the smash first scenarios that savage Hulk and other Hulks [like world war Hulk] bring to the table, that sells comics. Nobody wants to read a Hulk comicwhere hulk tries talking his way out of a big battle. Its that savage bruatality of classic Hulk, the Conan like personality of World War Hulk, the bad gangster attuide of Gey Hulk that people like. Professor hulk made hulk seem like just another superhero adventurer, Marvel has to many of that.

I can't think of many instances where the professor Hulk tried to talk his way out of a fight. He still had the gray Hulk's bad attitude and the green Hulk's temper. Captain America came to talk to Rick Jones once and the Hulk ended up wrapping him up in a lamp post. He fought plenty.

Personally, I'd like to see a true merged Hulk, with the green Hulk's full strength. I always hated how the professor was handicapped by that stupid savage Banner transformation that happened if he let himself get too angry.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Oh, he "lost" to drax (back when drax was stupid) by talking his way out. They were destroying new york and hulk looked around and said something like "you know what? you win, i surrender, congrats" and then just stopped fighting and drax just kinda stuttered around not knowing what to do. Hulk then commented on how awful it must have been to deal with him when he was that stupid. It was pretty funny.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Ha, I missed that issue. I want to read some of the professor stuff again, come to think of it. I miss those days. Gary Frank's art didn't hurt, either.

 

[moraldeficiency]

me too, I hate the way they take banner out of the hulk. I don't mind the stupid transformations but they go too far with that. You have the second smartest person in the world, you would think there would be times when banner was a lot more useful to earth than the hulk could be. Prof. Hulk was a good medium. I miss david's run with the leader and that priest the had the mystical gamma manipulation thing going. That was a cool idea. What ever happened with that?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Second smartest? I'd rank him in the top 5, but not second. Doom's first, Reed's second, Stark's third, Banner's fourth, and it's a battle of the Hanks between McCoy and Pym for fifth, in my opinion.

But, if it's any consolation, one of the few things I liked about Jones' run was the fact that Banner was the one eluding the government for most of that, only transforming into the Hulk in confrontations. He out-thought the government rather than just smashing his way to an uninhabited area and disappearing.

 

[moraldeficiency]

eh, the brains debate could go on forever. I've always felt that the leader should be obviously far and away the smartest person on earth, cause superpowered brains should beat normal brains in the same way a superpowered human is more physically capable than a regular one, but marvel apparently disagrees. But it all comes down to opinions and it's a hard thing to manage. Though I'll say that in terms of radiation banner's number one with a bullet with Otto Octavius coming in a distant second, so it also matters what your field is.

 

[Anubis]

So who's number one in your opinion? The....damn I can never remember that ***** name. Was in Annihilation conquest. Made all those animal/human hybrids.

 

[moraldeficiency]

high evolutionary. and he's pretty high up there.

If I was making a list and not counting machines:
leader
high evolutionary
modok
forge
brain child
reed
doom (I'll confess I forgot him)
mad thinker
stark
pym
cho
miles warren
otto
osborn (though the top guy in chemistry)
smythe
peter parker

^I'm sure I'm forgetting people, but that's what I'd come up with as always only IMHO.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Xavier's a genius in biochemistry or genetics or something. He's usually forgotten because Beast and Moira McTaggart are even better at it, though.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Xavier's a genius in biochemistry or genetics or something. He's usually forgotten because Beast and Moira McTaggart are even better at it, though.

yeah well that's the thing you can say xavier, strange, mctaggart, mccoy, the scientists working for weapon X, people that have built their own advanced equiptment (**** I forgot Klaw, he should be up there) like shocker have to be pretty damn smart as well and considering the varying fields whose to say who is better. You can have two identical twins and seperate them, one grows up to become a physicist the other a literature professor, now the fields don't translate really so they couldn't skip around and each has it's own advantages and disadvantages. The only ones I'd be sure about are those with super enhanced minds (again I say the fact the leader isn't the smartest earthling is just marvel being stupid) should be above the rest and those with proven work in multiple areas have to be high up there.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Technically, I suppose the High Evolutionary would be smartest. His mind is supposed to be as evolved as it's possible for a human being's mind to be. The Leader should probably be after him, but the Leader's often portrayed as kind of an idiot. In terms of portrayal and lip-service, Reed and Doom are the smartest people on Earth, bar none. Reed's invented about half of everything in existence, it seems, and Doom's outwitted the likes of Mephisto and invented the other half of everything in existence.

 

[moraldeficiency]

I could go for that, although the leader is something pretty different in that he's about as human as the hulk is when transformed. So I could see it go either way there. But you're right, he's always portrayed as a moron. A guy with like ten times doom's brain power and he's never even conquered earth. Although that instance with the priest and such was a pretty devestating plan that would have let him rule pretty easily. The gamma trifecta!

 

[Colossal Spoons]

A lot of the people you guys have listed are only smart in 1 or 2 fields though. Doom, Reed, High Evolutionary are the type of guys who are geniuses all around. Pym is robotics, Banner is genetics, Beast is biochemistry, etc.

 

[Anubis]

Actually, Pym is Robotics and Biochemistry. He's a genius in multiple fields.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

The thing is if you were truly as intelligent as the Leader why would you want to rule Earth or portray yourself as a villain. It makes no sense whatsoever. At least you would be so ambiguous so as to bring people to your side.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Actually, Pym is Robotics and Biochemistry. He's a genius in multiple fields.

Ok, he's getting closer to then

 

[moraldeficiency]

Pym also invented pym particles, he deserves to be high up there.

Mazda, I completely agree, although you have to remember stern was just stupid dickish guy before he got the boast (exact opposite of banner) so maybe the dickishness carried over. I still say the one with him vs. prof hulk when the had the trifecta of gamma powers going around was his best story. If that went through he'd just be the mosquito's ****.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

A lot of the people you guys have listed are only smart in 1 or 2 fields though. Doom, Reed, High Evolutionary are the type of guys who are geniuses all around. Pym is robotics, Banner is genetics, Beast is biochemistry, etc.

Banner's nuclear physics, guy. Genetics was the movie's way of softening the ridiculousness of Lee's '60s mentality that radiation gives everyone powers instead of cancer.