Official 'The Hobbit' Thread - Part 4

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‘The Hobbit’: An unexpected journey on- and off-screen

No major release of 2012 arrives at theaters with more baggage or battle scars than “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey,” a title that became a sort of epic inside joke for the cast and his crew, many of whom worked on “The Lord of the Rings” trilogy that made movie history a decade ago.

“I think fate has actually been kind to us,” director Peter Jackson said last summer, although he didn’t sound convinced by his own words. “Yes, I think fate was kind but I don’t know that we knew that along the way.”

That’s how most quests go, of course, but the journey to adapt J.R.R. Tolkien’s Middle-earth saga into a lavish two-part movie adventure was especially stormy right from the beginning. Roadblocks included an ugly legal battle with the author’s heirs, a two-year delay that came with financial meltdown of MGM, the jolting defection of director Guillermo del Toro, a nasty union dispute and a hospital stay to treat a stomach ulcer for Jackson, who shifted from co-writer and executive producer to director after del Toro’s departure in May of 2010.

There’s also been the vague but very real anxiety that comes with competing with history — can this encore effort actually escape the considerable shadow of the “Rings” trilogy, which racked up $2.9 billion in worldwide box office and saw its finale installment in 2004 become the first fantasy film to win the Oscar for best picture?

This time around, Martin Freeman (best known for costarring in BBC’s “The Office” and his work in films such as “Love Actually” and “The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy”) portrays Bilbo Baggins, a young Hobbit who joins a band of dwarfs on their journeys to Lonely Mountain where they hope to reclaim their treasure from Smaug, the fire-breathing dragon who has squatted for so long on his hoarded riches that his pale underbelly is encrusted with jewels and gold pieces.

Not only is Ian McKellen back in the peaked hat of Gandalf, but there are also plenty of other familiar faces from the “Rings” cast (although some make only fleeting appearances); among them are Orlando Bloom, Cate Blanchett, Hugo Weaving, Elijah Wood, Andy Serkis, Christopher Lee and even Ian Holm, who portrayed the older version of Freeman’s character when last we visited the Shire, the land of the Hobbits.

For the uninitiated, “The Hobbit” was published in 1937 and is considered by many Tolkien scholars to be a Misty Mountain warm-up act for the darker, richer 1950s “Rings” epic, which aimed for older readers and found them by the millions across the decades. The softer tones of “The Hobbit” were an early concern for Jackson and the returning members of the “Rings” creative team, among them Philippa Boyens, a screenwriter on all three “Rings” films (and an Oscar winner for “The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King,” which closed out the trilogy in 2004).

“The story is very much a children’s story so deciding how to tell this was one of the first things we had to do,” Boyens said in a phone interview right before Christmas. “Who is the audience? It is very distinctly different, tonally, to ‘Lord of the Rings’ until the very end and then you begin to see the world of Middle-earth opening up… but, having said that, we felt that it is the same audience [who will come to see the films] and then you start to worry because it is easy to repeat yourself. It is quite a similar journey, you’re going from the Shire to a large, dangerous mountain.”

By most reports, Warner Bros.’ two “Hobbit” films — the second of which, “The Hobbit: There and Back Again,” will be released in 2013 — have a combined budget in the $500-million range, so the stakes are high. The appetite of fans is certainly intense (the first trailer for the film, released Dec. 20, quickly became an Internet sensation) and when Jackson made a surprise appearance last summer at Comic-Con International in San Diego he was cheered like a returning war hero.

Backstage, he said that, after the first three Tolkien films, he never expected to be back for another tour of duty but that — like Bilbo Baggins — it’s the journey that chooses the traveler, not the other way around.

“This is the most enjoyable filmmaking experience of my career, by far, which is interesting since I came into it slightly reluctantly,” the director said in San Diego. “It’s all unexpected.”


http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012...urney-new-photo-peter-jackson-martin-freeman/

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There was the usual dim grey light of the forest-day about him when he came to his senses. The spider lay dead beside him, and his sword-blade was stained black. Somehow the killing of the giant spider, all alone by himself in the dark without the help of the wizard or the dwarves or of anyone else, made a great difference to Mr. Baggins. He felt a different person, and much fiercer and bolder in spite of an empty stomach, as he wiped his sword on the grass and put it back into its sheath.

“I will give you a name,” he said to it, “and I shall call you Sting.”
 
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As a Swede it's so cool that Mikael Persbrandt is in this.
 
That picture is glorious, I just can't wait to see it on the big screen!!!
 
Even though I absolutely loved the trailer, I did think that Thorin looked too young in the scenes at Bag End. I hope the lighting in the other locations of the film show him looking more like this:

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Thorin looks rather aragonish in that pic. I just watched fellowship of the ring on blu-ray and its glorious! The picture looks great and the green tint issue is noticeable in only two or three scenes at the most.
 
Yeah well until I can afford a Flat SCREEN over my Flat tube I'll hold off on the Bluray set since I have the original Extended.
 
I wonder if like with legolas peter jackson will make thranduil a badass action hero elf. It would be cool to see Legolas and thranduil fighting side by side. Hell I want to see the dinamic between father and son legolas arguing and disagreeing with the way his father handles things specially with Thranduil being kind of a greedy and ambitious bastard.
 
Even though I absolutely loved the trailer, I did think that Thorin looked too young in the scenes at Bag End. I hope the lighting in the other locations of the film show him looking more like this:

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That's actually my favorite picture of Thorin. He looks great there.
 
Evangeline talks about Tauriel: http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/01/25/evangeline-lilly-real-steel-hobbit/

Speaking of small and little, I’d be remiss not to bring up The Hobbit. You’re playing a new character named Tauriel, who’s a Mirkwood elf, and that would lead me to believe that she is a warrior of some kind. Did you have to learn archery and swordplay?
Yes, she is a warrior. She’s actually the head of the Elven guard. She’s the big shot in the army. So she knows how to wield any weapon, but the primary weapons that she uses are a bow and arrow and two daggers. And she’s lethal and deadly. You definitely wouldn’t want to be caught in a dark alley next to Tauriel.

So then Tauriel must be involved with the dwarves being captured…
I think basically what you’re asking is if she’s in the film very much. She’s not in the first film very much. She comes into the first film near the end, and has a very small part to play. Her role in the second film is much more involved. Although, I have to say, when I first read the scripts and took the job, she had a lot less going on in the second film. I think the role is becoming a bit more demanding that I had expected it to be. There’s a lot more for me to do now, which is a lot of fun, but it’s a little more pressure.

Does she play a large part in the Battle of Five Armies?
Oh, I don’t know. We haven’t shot that yet. I still have to go back for five more months of filming.

How many months have you been there already?
On and off for the past six months. It’s a two-year shoot in total for both films, and my contract had me blocked off for about a year. I come in and out of New Zealand throughout that year.

How has the experience of shooting in New Zealand compared to the multiple years you spent in Hawaii on Lost?
In some ways, it feels really familiar. I’m from Canada, and New Zealand feels like you took all the best bits of Canada and squished them onto a tiny island like Hawaii. I was absolutely blown away by the beauty of the South Island. I seem to be landing really great locations on a lot of my work. I hope that continues, knock on wood.
 
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So she's the commanding officer in Thranduil 's royal guard. I hope she's not another legolas I hope they make her very different from him when it comes to fighting. Speaking of which I hope legolas has a significant role and fights in the battle of five armies. I wanna see him use those badass elven knives, he barely used them in the trilogy. on a side note: lily's gorgeous and she kinda looks like liv.
 
based on what she says I think we get the first hint how film 1 will end.With the captures of the dwarves by the wood elves.And Bilbo seeing them being taken away.
Thranduil and Legolas may not be seen till begining of film 2.

I am sure Legolas will have a significant role In the battle of five armies.
 
Any word on whether Hobbit will have a presence at this year's COMIC CON ?
 
Any word on whether Hobbit will have a presence at this year's COMIC CON ?
Jackson posted this back in July:

Peter Jackson said:
Good news and bad news today. Bad news is that we won't be doing any Hobbit presentation at Comic Con in San Diego this year. New Line and Warner Bros were very happy to support a presentation, but I declined, simply because I felt it was too early. There's so much more of the films still to shoot. I just wanted to get that out there, because I've seen various references to the possibility of something Hobbity at Comic Con. Hate to disappoint anyone. But something tells me we will be there in force next year.
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...tes/peter-jackson/some-news/10150322456841558
 
They are still doing principal photography for both films if I remember correctly. At the same time they have the WETA Digital team doing the special effects.
 
Dang.
Aren't they finished shooting ?
I guess with them being in full post. prod mode , a presence at the Con wouldn't be worthwhile. I mean you'd want to see some some footage and not "just the stars".
Well, he said they'd be there this year, so I'm sure they have something.

Because they're shooting in digital, the shots can be handed over to Weta Digital almost immediately. I'd wager they've been doing post-production work throughout most of the shoot - not to mention the fact that PJ has been cutting/editing during the breaks. Otherwise there would have been no way to get the first film out by December.

According to Jackson, they finish shooting in July (not including pick-ups in 2013).
 
Interesting, will there not be any pick-ups for the first Hobbit film?
 
Well, he said they'd be there this year, so I'm sure they have something.

Because they're shooting in digital, the shots can be handed over to Weta Digital almost immediately. I'd wager they've been doing post-production work throughout most of the shoot - not to mention the fact that PJ has been cutting/editing during the breaks. Otherwise there would have been no way to get the first film out by December.

According to Jackson, they finish shooting in July (not including pick-ups in 2013).

You are right in saying that the WETA will have gotten the shots immediatly once PJ approves.
The thing that suprises me though is that the fact that WETA also has some other big movies .
When they were doing the VFX for the LOTR movies , they were just doing one movie at the time. Obviously handling all the shots definately meant that they had a huge workload. THe company is also growing with each year. By comparison , AVatar was the last time they were doing the VFX just one movie in an entire year.
For 2012 these are the movies :
The Avengers

Director: Joss Whedon
Studio: Marvel
Estimated Opening Date: 4 May 2012 (USA)



Prometheus

Director: Ridley Scott
Studio: Twentieth Century Fox
Estimated Opening Date: 8 June 2012 (USA)



Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter

Director: Timur Bekmambetov
Studio: Twentieth Century Fox
Estimated Opening Date: 22 June 2012 (USA)



The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey

Director: Peter Jackson
Studio: Warner Bros. Pictures
Estimated Opening Date: 14 December 2012 (USA)

Either the first movie doesn't have quite extensive VFX work to be done or WETA has seriously grown as a company compared to the time they were doing Avatar. I'm actually going with the former.
 
I didn't know WETA Digital is working on Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter and the Avengers, awesome!
 
I knew ILM was working on the Avengers but that's nice to hear that WETA is helping them.
 
I knew ILM was working on the Avengers but that's nice to hear that WETA is helping them.

Well considering that Marvel was hell bent on releasing the movie in May 2012 and shooting began quite late ( i know some Marvel fan is gonna flame me for this) they do need the big guys to handle all the VFX.
WETA has proven again and again that they are capable of handling large sequences in "short" timeframe.
 
I'm liking everyting the lovely Miss Lilly had to say.
 
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