Official 'The Hobbit' Thread - Part 4

[redhawk23]

They aren't wolves, though...they're Wargs.

And wargs are not hyenas.

 

[redhawk23]

Just like with humans, some will be different. In a culture and species the way the individual of a group looks physically and dresses can vary wildly at times. Perdonally, I like that they express their personality through their style and looks, like intelligent beings are known to do.

No one is requesting that they all look like Gimlie with different colored hair, just that their beard were more generally impressive (or there at all).

 

[Abudefduf]

Just like with humans, some will be different. In a culture and species the way the individual of a group looks physically and dresses can vary wildly at times. Perdonally, I like that they express their personality through their style and looks, like intelligent beings are known to do.

Making him almost beardless is not giving him personality. If anything, he now reminds me of your generic fantasy action hero... only shorter.

No one is requesting that they all look like Gimlie with different colored hair, just that their beard were more generally impressive (or there at all).

Lol, this. He's a Tolkien's dwarf. Tolkien's dwarfs have thick beards, even the women. Not hard to get it right, but for some reason, Jackson (or Del Toro... or whoever it was) failed.

But enough with the whining. When will they finally show Smaug?

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

There are more, but I can't seem to find them.

 

[Kane52630]

There are more, but I can't seem to find them.

http://www.comingsoon.net/imageGallery/Comic_Con_2012?page=4

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Nevermind, there we go. Thanks Kane.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I'm not sure if this is for The Hobbit or not. I think it is.

 

[obin_gam]

I'm not sure if this is for The Hobbit or not. I think it is.

Sure it is, its Tom, Bill and Bert! t:

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Sure it is, its Tom, Bill and Bert! t:

Tom, Bill, and Bert say hello.

 

[Marvolo]

Making him almost beardless is not giving him personality. If anything, he now reminds me of your generic fantasy action hero... only shorter.

Lol, this. He's a Tolkien's dwarf. Tolkien's dwarfs have thick beards, even the women. Not hard to get it right, but for some reason, Jackson (or Del Toro... or whoever it was) failed.

But enough with the whining. When will they finally show Smaug?

Dwarves can still have a thick beard even when it is short. In the film's universe it was never stated or established that young dwarves look like older dwarves. This is an adaption and a short bearded dwarf isnt ruining anything unless we are nitpicking. If dwarves were real id bet my life savings you could find a few without beards. Why? Because it is taboo. One somewhere has to be clean cut out of sheer spite. That is a personality. Them all having long bushy beards makes them look like carbon copies of every dwarf in existence. I like the short beards and weird beards on the dwarves. They are unorthodox adventerous dwarves who go their own way culutural customs be damned.

And its also a wise decision practically speaking. Thirteen dwarves on screen need to be as varying and different as reasonably possible.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

More Character Posters

Spoiler

 

[Marvolo]

I want them all! This movie feels more like an adventure film than the dark and gritty doom and gloom of TTT and ROTK. Im liking it!

 

[lime]

Oh, the Gandalf one is the best!

 

[Abudefduf]

Tom, Bill, and Bert say hello.

They are perfect.

 

[Octoberist]

ugly things, aren't they?

 

[ravn0s]

are those lenticular posters because it looks like gollum has 2 right arms?

 

[Boom]

I demand Radagast and Beorn posters.

 

[redhawk23]

Dwarves can still have a thick beard even when it is short. In the film's universe it was never stated or established that young dwarves look like older dwarves. This is an adaption and a short bearded dwarf isnt ruining anything unless we are nitpicking. If dwarves were real id bet my life savings you could find a few without beards. Why? Because it is taboo. One somewhere has to be clean cut out of sheer spite. That is a personality. Them all having long bushy beards makes them look like carbon copies of every dwarf in existence. I like the short beards and weird beards on the dwarves. They are unorthodox adventerous dwarves who go their own way culutural customs be damned.

And its also a wise decision practically speaking. Thirteen dwarves on screen need to be as varying and different as reasonably possible.

Weird beards and even shorter beards are fine, but beardless is just unnecessary. Let me guess is he the one with the romantic subplot?

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

They are perfect.

Yeah, much better than the look of the trolls from the LOTR trilogy imo. Then again, I wouldn't expect them to look the same because they're supposed to be different types of trolls.

 

[superkong 500]

Am I the only one who thinks this trolls look like some sort of cannibal inbred family from one of those wrong turn films?

 

[Abudefduf]

They are unorthodox adventerous dwarves who go their own way culutural customs be damned.

Yeah, but this is Thorin, not some random adventurous young Dwarf rebel.
Why make the proud, cold King of all the Longbeards beardless? Is it supposed to be a joke?

I'm sorry, I just see it as a dumb move on the filmmakers's part.

Yeah, much better than the look of the trolls from the LOTR trilogy imo. Then again, I wouldn't expect them to look the same because they're supposed to be different types of trolls.

Exactly, now let's just hope they actually make them talk.

 

[Boom]

I wouldn't say it's a dumb decision from an business perspective. Anyone who thinks Thorin, Fili, and Kili weren't given short beards for the sake of drawing in a female audience are kidding themselves. It's no accident that Aidan Turner was sporting a epicly thick beard at the press conference in February, and then had it shaved off several weeks later to play a Tolkien dwarf. These three characters were designed with sex appeal in mind - Tolkien be damned. And after reading some of the comments on Facebook and other news sites reporting on The Hobbit, it seems to have worked.

Now, the purist in me is screaming "Bloody murder," but it wasn't a dumb decision from a business point-of-view. I guess PJ found a way to solve the problem as to how they were going to draw a female audience into a story that is overrun with testosterone, as shallow as that solution may be.

But then, that raises another question. Do women in general really find beards that unattractive? I thought Turner looked fine at the press conference - but then again I sport a beard myself.

 

[regwec]

If they were worried about that with LOTR, then why did they give Aragorn, Boromir, Faramir and Eomer beards? The text never mentions any of them being bearded.

 

[Boom]

If they were worried about that with LOTR, then why did they give Aragorn, Boromir, Faramir and Eomer beards? The text never mentions any of them being bearded.

Good point, but now all that does is piss me off even more.

Turner looked great at the press conference. What was so wrong with that look that 5 o'clock shadow won out over it? And really, would even five extra inches on Thorin's beard really kill them? Really?