Official 'The Hobbit' Thread - Part 4

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I believe it is the giants that live on the misty mountains, they are referenced in the book, ;)

I always envisioned them like large cave trolls throwing boulders.

EDIT: I mis read it, from that one time I read the book. :p
 
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Well it looks like Jack found the quote already lol ;) I was looking for it and could not remember what chapter it was from.
 
While I do not believe there is a precedent for Mediterranean architecture in Tolkien, Dale looks pretty ****ing sweet.

And I love how many classic-looking dwarves show Thorin up in this blog :funny:.
 
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I find the mediterranean architecture odd and it doesnt really feel like whats come before but i do think it is a gorgeous location and ot makes middle earth feel even more varied and alive.
 
Dwarves in Dale = :awesome:
Dwarf kings = :awesome::awesome:
Dwarf soldiers = :awesome::awesome::awesome:

So many dwarves. I love it.
 
I bet the giants are Del Toro's design. He is always good at designing these really extraordinary beings.

i wonder how much of del toro's ideias and designs have managed to survive after his departure, if PJ incorporated it with his vision or if he scrapped it most of them...
 
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i wonder how much of del toro's ideias and designs have managed to survive after his departure, if PJ incorporated it with his vision or if he scrapped it most of them...

Peter has kept some. He ditched the Smaug design which Del Toro and Peter disagreed about. Apparently Toro gave him a head shaped like an axe head or some kind of ****. And Toro wanted to incorporate steam punk elements such as one of the dwarfs had a mechanical crazy helmet. Peter scrapped that stuff too.

The misty mountain giant is such a Toro design tho. It reminds me of his elementals and the stone giant from Hellboy 2. Toro has an eye for the ancient and fantastical.
 
I still hope Del Toro's Smaug design is released someday. It was described as unlike any other dragon seen on film before.
 
Peter has kept some. He ditched the Smaug design which Del Toro and Peter disagreed about. Apparently Toro gave him a head shaped like an axe head or some kind of ****. And Toro wanted to incorporate steam punk elements such as one of the dwarfs had a mechanical crazy helmet. Peter scrapped that stuff too.

The misty mountain giant is such a Toro design tho. It reminds me of his elementals and the stone giant from Hellboy 2. Toro has an eye for the ancient and fantastical.
If I remember correctly, GDT's Smaug had a long and slender body like a snake, small forearms, deep-set eyes, and had an overall silhouette that resembled a battle axe (which isn't all the unreasonable).

Smaug's body was apparently evocative of this illustration, which GDT has a large copy of in his house:

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Is that Evangeline Lilly doing the leap and roll on the wires about 4:34? Can't really tell, could be a stuntperson I guess.
 
I always feel sorry for Peter Jasckson when he is breathing so heavy and loud, also he is always sweating. Guy knows how to make movies, but he doesent have an healthy life style. He sure is a fat dude. I bet the surgery on his stomach he underwent couple of years ago was also because he ate too many unhealthy stuff.
 
I always feel sorry for Peter Jasckson when he is breathing so heavy and loud, also he is always sweating. Guy knows how to make movies, but he doesent have an healthy life style. He sure is a fat dude. I bet the surgery on his stomach he underwent couple of years ago was also because he ate too many unhealthy stuff.

It was ulcer related.
 
That rock monsters looks exactly like a bigger version of the rock giant from Hellboy 2.
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Also looks like they stuck with Del Toro's Wargs.
 
Um... I love you Jackson and I'm fine with the two movie thing but... three movies? This is The Hobbit. One book.

I mean what the hell else are they gonna put in? Gandalf at a strip club between The Misty Mountains and the Final Battle?

I'm always down for more Middle Earth, but the appeal of The Hobbit is its simplicity. It's not a sprawling epic LOTR is. I mean... it is, but it's a contained story that you can kick out in a day or two if you had the time. It's also a children's tale where it's more accesible to the younger set in its simplicity.
 
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Why?????

The book isn't that long. How can the movie possibly be this long???

I can understand creating a film crafted from the combined histories of Middle Earth - a whole NEW story sort of - because there is plenty of material there that Tolkien wrote. But this story just isn't that long; it seem like it will be adding material not found in the book now rather than getting an accurate adaptation.

BASICALLY if I got this new and heard of another LOTR film rather than another Hobbit movie, then I'd be excited because there is a goldmine of material there - but, as far as I know - that material isn't connected TO the Hobbit.
 
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Yeah, I mean I'm fine with showing what Gandalf is doing away from the group, but what the hell else justifies a whole other film??
 
I wonder if they're going back to the "bridge movie" that goes into LOTR, along with stuff from the appendices.
 
Of course Warner Bros. wants to milk this for all it's worth, but Jackson would'nt be foolish enough to try to spread such a short book over three films, would he? I'm betting he draws from something else.
 
Of course Warner Bros. wants to milk this for all it's worth, but Jackson would'nt be foolish enough to try to spread such a short book over three films, would he? I'm betting he draws from something else.

He's already said he is drawing from the apendices at the end of ROTK. Its like 125 pages that tolkien wrote to fill in some holes. It covers various times, events, people, amd places. Jackson used material from the apendices in the LOTR trilogy. At this point these new films are more than just the Hobbit book which is fine. If the apendices arent adapted at a time in the future the rights revert back to the estate.

This has been discussed on the previous pages and jackson has made a few statements about this. At this point he would like to shoot more material to help the hobbit flow directly into LOTR. His statement was that "if somebody wants to sit down and watch all five or six films in one sitting they will flow seamless into one another like one very long film." This possible third film will bring these two film into seamless sync with FOTR. So essentially the third film will be a bridge film. Or they will expand the second film into two films and add the extra material into both.

I wonder what they will call the bridge film? If its purely a bridge film and the Hobbit story ends in film 2 the third film cant be called the Hobbit since it wouldnt make any sense. Someone in here suggested The Chronicles of Middle Earth. Anyone got any other ideas?
 
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What is this trilogy BS? :whatever:

Making the hobbit into two movies was already a stretch. If anyone has read the book they'd know that there is A LOT less plot material than any of the Lord of the Rings books. They can easily fit the hobbit into a two and a half hour film and now three films? They're seriously going to split one book into three films? Thats stupid
 
What is this trilogy BS? :whatever:

Making the hobbit into two movies was already a stretch. If anyone has read the book they'd know that there is A LOT less plot material than any of the Lord of the Rings books. They can easily fit the hobbit into a two and a half hour film and now three films? They're seriously going to split one book into three films? Thats stupid
He's not just splitting the hobbit into 3 films. There is a massive amount of additional events chronicled in the Appendecies that Jackson would be pulling from. I for one am cool with it so long as its done respectably. I love Tolkien and Middle-Earth, so any opportunities to see more is fine with me.
 
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