Official 'The Hobbit' Thread

[dark_b]

after reading TMNT's tweets i watched the video again.

so why did Jackson said in the video blog 2-3 years of shooting?

 

[Doctor Jones]

2-3 years of total coverage of both films all the way to release. He probably put three in there because who knows what could happen and how long they could cover it for. The DVD release will happen in 2014 of Part II anyway.

 

[Boom]

We are two years and eight months away from the release of Film Two. He probably just rounded up to a nice clean number.

 

[Showtime]

after reading TMT's tweets i watched the video again.

so why did Jackson said in the video blog 2-3 years of shooting?

Jamie pointed it out to me and I watched it again and thought it was sort of a weird off hand comment.

 

[vinsanity]

and we could probably get reshootings for possible extended versions of the movies =D

 

[Boom]

Here's a closer look at that mo-cap creature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTvTS1tkBPQ

 

[Doctor Jones]

Looks like a Goblin to me.

 

[Boom]

I had a thought. Could be nothing more than a coincidence, but something to consider.

In the book, Dori wears a purple hood. In the video, Dori's costume is purple. Also, when I look at the rack of Kili and Fili's costumes, I see what looks to be a blue sleeve - and Kili and Fili both wore blue hoods.

Again, it could just be a coincidence, but perhaps the color of each dwarf's costume will compliment his hood.

For future reference:

Dwalin - dark green
Balin - scarlet
Kili - blue
Fili - blue
Dori - purple
Nori - purple
Ori - grey
Oin - brown
Gloin - white
Bifur - yellow
Bofur - yellow
Bombur - pale green
Thorin - sky blue w/ silver tassel

 

[Boom]

PJ Facebook Update (Easter Break):

Just arrived at our four-day Easter break, which will be a nice time to recharge batteries and do a few script tweaks for future scenes.
We always find there are three distinct phases in the life of a film script. First, it exists before the film starts shooting. In this period, which can last from months to years, the script is a theoretical document—an imaginative version of the movie.

Then you start shooting and things come much more into focus—usually in a very positive way. We now have actors who bring their skill to the roles and suddenly we see the characters in a more vivid and tangible way. This is both fun and satisfying, and always inspires us to embark on constant script revisions to meet the renewed potential these characters now have. I feel that much of the best writing happens during this period, but it does make a very busy time—very, very busy! Sometimes we have gotten these revisions to the actors a little late. We constantly joke to Ian McKellen that tomorrow's script pages will be slid under his door sometime the night before... and sometimes that has been true.

The worst case of this came during The Fellowship of the Ring, when we revised Boromir's long speech about Mordor at the last minute and only got it to Sean Bean on the day it was being shot. Sean handled it very cleverly—if you look at the movie, you'll see he occasionally has his head bowed, as if dealing with the emotional weight of the horrors of Mordor. In actual fact, the new script page had been taped to his knee! By the time we were done with several takes and a few different camera angles, Sean had the speech down pat, and it was mainly those takes that were used in the final cut.

The final writing phase comes in post-production, when you edit the movie. No matter what you were imagining when you wrote the script, and what you imagined during the shoot, nothing now matters beyond the actual cut film. We often find that script work continues during post, including writing and shooting new scenes, reorganising the order of scenes, or recording additional dialogue to slip into shots. We do all of these things, and the writing only stops when the film is finally finished.

Many thanks for all the comments about the first posts. A few common questions have come up and I'll answer some of those over the break. Now to get back to the script for those Rivendell scenes we have coming up...

Cheers,
Peter J

SOURCE: http://www.facebook.com/notes/peter-jackson/easter-break/10150231377401558

 

[Boom]

It's going to be sad, because these films are going to add much more to the Balin's tomb scene in FoTR, considering three members of Thorin's company died in Moria.

Oin (John Callen) was killed by the Watcher.
Balin (Ken Stott) was slain by an Orc in Mirrormere.
And Ori (Adam Brown) is the one who writes the last entries in the book that Gandalf finds.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah, that's going to be great.

As if Gandalf reading from the entry didn't give me chills already.

It's been so many years since I read the book. Those three died in Moria in the book?

 

[Kane52630]

PJ Facebook Update

One comment that came up from the recent video blog was the Bilbo voice at the end—many of you assumed it was Sir Ian Holm. Whilst Ian will be returning as the older Bilbo Baggins in The Hobbit, that recording was actually Martin Freeman's voice, taken from a script read through we recorded when the cast first arrived. I have to admit, I wasn't sure who it was when I first heard it, either. Cheers, Peter J

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10150232032911558&id=141884481557

 

[Jackasscoley15]

Yeah, that's going to be great.

As if Gandalf reading from the entry didn't give me chills already.

It's been so many years since I read the book. Those three died in Moria in the book?

Their deaths were mentioned in the Appendices of The Lord of the Rings, if I remember correctly. They take place after The Hobbit, so I'm sure they'll survive the films, unless they decide to add some type of epilogue sequence.

 

[Boom]

Doctor Jones, they die between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. The only dwarves who die during The Hobbit are:

Spoiler

Thorin, Kili, and Fili.

Also, I am absolutely stoked for two reasons:

1) Ian Holm is returning, which suggests that Bilbo will be telling Frodo the story as opposed to Frodo simply reading from the Red Book. The former is a much better idea.

2) Martin Freeman did the voice over at the end of the video blog. The fact that he fooled so many people into thinking it was Holm only proves that he was the perfect choice.

 

[Drizzle]

2) Martin Freeman did the voice over at the end of the video blog. The fact that he fooled so many people into thinking it was Holm only proves that he was the perfect choice.

I agree. At first, I was hoping that James McAvoy would play Bilbo, but after seeing that video, I'm convinced that Freeman is perfect for the role.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Their deaths were mentioned in the Appendices of The Lord of the Rings, if I remember correctly. They take place after The Hobbit, so I'm sure they'll survive the films, unless they decide to add some type of epilogue sequence.

Doctor Jones, they die between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. The only dwarves who die during The Hobbit are:

Spoiler

Thorin, Kili, and Fili.

Also, I am absolutely stoked for two reasons:

1) Ian Holm is returning, which suggests that Bilbo will be telling Frodo the story as opposed to Frodo simply reading from the Red Book. The former is a much better idea.

2) Martin Freeman did the voice over at the end of the video blog. The fact that he fooled so many people into thinking it was Holm only proves that he was the perfect choice.

But you said they died in Moria in your post. Or did I read it wrong?

How did Gandalf get the book in Moria if they didn't die there?

And I always kind of assumed that the film would be a tale told to Frodo. The idea of Frodo just coming across the book didn't seem right.

 

[JewishHobbit]

So being that I've not paid attention to Hobbit news for a long time... are the two movies the book split in half or the Hobbit as the first movie and the second movie things that happened between Hobbit and Lord of the Rings? I know there was a rumor about that but I never heard what the final decision was on the layout of the movies. God knows there's enough plot between the two books to make a great film.

 

[Boom]

But you said they died in Moria in your post. Or did I read it wrong?

How did Gandalf get the book in Moria if they didn't die there?

And I always kind of assumed that the film would be a tale told to Frodo. The idea of Frodo just coming across the book didn't seem right.

Between the events of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, Balin takes a group of Dwarves to Moria in the hopes of re-colonizing the kingdom. Long story short, the orcs and goblins kill them all.

They do die in Moria. It's only mentioned in the Appendices.

Ori writes the last entries in the book, as the Dwarves are being overcome by the orcs and goblins. Therefore, it is presumably his corpse that Gandalf takes the book from in FoTR (When they're in Balin's tomb).

Hope that helps.

And JewishHobbit, The Hobbit is being divided into two parts.

 

[Angel_Faerie]

I never knew that. That's heartbreaking. Adds a whole other layer to that scene.

 

[JewishHobbit]

And JewishHobbit, The Hobbit is being divided into two parts.

Wow, that is so disappointing. There is so much good plot between Hobbit and LotR that can make a fantastic film and bridge the tw stories focusing on the battle against Necromancer. I'm scratchy on my memory but I think Witchking was there, and Saruman and Elrond were among those fighting... though I may be adding all that in hindsight. You could probably even show Balin's fall in Moria.

You can likely fit in Gollum, Legolas, Gimli, and Aragorn if written well enough.

Oh well...

 

[superkong 500]

Wow, that is so disappointing. There is so much good plot between Hobbit and LotR that can make a fantastic film and bridge the tw stories focusing on the battle against Necromancer. I'm scratchy on my memory but I think Witchking was there, and Saruman and Elrond were among those fighting... though I may be adding all that in hindsight. You could probably even show Balin's fall in Moria.

You can likely fit in Gollum, Legolas, Gimli, and Aragorn if written well enough.

Oh well...

Wasn't that the time in which the counsil discovered that the necromancer was sauron and during the battle he flees? and at the same time the witchking was terrorizing the north? it would have been great to introduce a younger aragorn with his rangers patroling the wilderness near the shire and show him, his rangers and legolas joining gandalf and the council during the battle against the necromancer. It could even end with aragorn hunting gollum.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Between the events of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings, Balin takes a group of Dwarves to Moria in the hopes of re-colonizing the kingdom. Long story short, the orcs and goblins kill them all.

They do die in Moria. It's only mentioned in the Appendices.

Ori writes the last entries in the book, as the Dwarves are being overcome by the orcs and goblins. Therefore, it is presumably his corpse that Gandalf takes the book from in FoTR (When they're in Balin's tomb).

Hope that helps.

And JewishHobbit, The Hobbit is being divided into two parts.

Ah, yes. Wow, I feel stupid now. That explains all the dead dwarves when they enter the mines.

 

[chelo248]

I am sad to report that Rob Kazinsky, who was cast in the role of Fili, is having to leave The Hobbit and return home, for personal reasons. Rob has been terrific to work with and his enthusiasm and infectious sense of humour will be missed by all of us. I should say that Rob's departure will not affect ongoing filming of The Hobbit, nor will it impact work done to date, as we had yet to film much of Fili's storyline. At the moment we are shooting scenes featuring Bilbo without the Dwarves, which will give us time to find a new Fili. I'll keep everyone posted with updates as they come.
Cheers,
Peter J

http://www.facebook.com/notes/peter-jackson/fili/10150233459761558

 

[Doctor Jones]

Whoa, weird. You know as unbelievable as it might sound, a couple days ago I pegged him to be the person that would be let go. Not saying that I think something bad happened, I just got this feeling that he wouldn't last.

 

[Angel_Faerie]

That's unfortunate. I wonder what happened.