Official 'The Hobbit' Thread

[Boom]

Fun fact: Fili is actually five years older than Kili. At the time of The Hobbit, Fili is 82 and Kili is 77.

For the longest time, I thought Kili was the older of the two.

 

[Jackasscoley15]

My take on Pace as Thranduil (I used Celeborn as a base):

 

[Yodaman]

Fili looks like a clone of my R.A. from last year

Seriously though, these look like good choices.

 

[kedrell]

Well correct me if I am wrong Tolkienites, but aren't Thranduil & his people like the hick, bumkins of the elf world? As opposed to the high elves of Elrond & Galadriel's realms, I mean.

 

[WarBlade]

Oh sweet. News of Fili's replacement and a second season of The Almighty Johnsons going ahead, all bundled in one post.

He's a bit of a short-arse though. t: *Cue camera angles to downplay Fili looking about the same height as Bilbo*

Well correct me if I am wrong Tolkienites, but aren't Thranduil & his people like the hick, bumkins of the elf world? As opposed to the high elves of Elrond & Galadriel's realms, I mean.

I think "battle-hardened hunters" is probably a better description. Legolas is one of them.

 

[kedrell]

Ah, ok. I just knew they were descibed as 'lesser' than the others.

 

[Boom]

Well correct me if I am wrong Tolkienites, but aren't Thranduil & his people like the hick, bumkins of the elf world? As opposed to the high elves of Elrond & Galadriel's realms, I mean.

The Wood-elves are Silvan Elves. They were the original elven inhabitants of Middle-earth, and are more akin to the Lothlorien Elves.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

It's great that they cast Pace based on his superb performance in The Fall.

 

[kedrell]

The Wood-elves are Silvan Elves. They were the original elven inhabitants of Middle-earth, and are more akin to the Lothlorien Elves.

So who are the High Elves? I thought sure Galadriel(and by association her people) was among them.

 

[Jackasscoley15]

So who are the High Elves? I thought sure Galadriel(and by association her people) was among them.

The word 'Silvan' describes an ethnic group of elves. 'High Elf' usually refers to the status of an elf in relation to other elves. So Galadriel and Celeborn would be considered High Elves (who just happen to be Silvan) because they're the leaders of their people and are considered to be incredibly wise.

I know it's complicated, I almost always have trouble getting into the finer details of the histories and cultures of Middle-Earth. This article may help clear up some confusion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundering_of_the_Elves

 

[Lucien]

High Elf is a term used to describe those Elves that made the journey to Valinor and saw the light of the Two Trees. The Sindarin Elves split from the host of Elves on that journey and remained in Middle-Earth, and so never saw it. Galadriel was of the Noldor, who later left Valinor and returned to Middle-Earth, eventually settling in Lorien with the Silvan Elves already there.

I believe the light given off by Glorfindel when Frodo saw him in the wraith-world while wearing the Ring was a direct result of being a High Elf.

 

[Jackasscoley15]

High Elf is a term used to describe those Elves that made the journey to Valinor and saw the light of the Two Trees. The Sindarin Elves split from the host of Elves on that journey and remained in Middle-Earth, and so never saw it. Galadriel was of the Noldor, who later left Valinor and returned to Middle-Earth, eventually settling in Lorien with the Silvan Elves already there.

I believe the light given off by Glorfindel when Frodo saw him in the wraith-world while wearing the Ring was a direct result of being a High Elf.

 

[Boom]

Some set photos, courtesy of TheOneRing.Net:

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Could the first picture be of the Lonely Mountain's lower slopes ?

 

[WarBlade]

I dunno... I'm kinda picking it to be a big grey lump.

 

[Lucien]

It does look like rock that could've been melted by Dragon fire

 

[green]

Nice to get confirmation on Hugo! And adding Lee Pace is great, gosh I miss Pushing Daisies and he was excellent in The Fall.

 

[Boom]

Get on over to PJ's Facebook if you have a question for him!

20 QUESTIONS

It seems like a lifetime ago now, but way back at the beginning of The Lord of the Rings, I agreed to answer 20 questions sent into the Ain't It Cool website. Harry Knowles sorted through them and gave me his pick, which I did my best to answer, even though we were in the very early pre-production stage.

I thought you might like to do the same thing again with The Hobbit, using this Facebook page. So let's get into it ... if there's anything you'd like to know about the movies we're making, please send me questions (on this page) and we'll start answering 20 of them. Who knows - if we have fun, why stop at 20?

Let's get it underway. Over to you ...

Cheers,

Peter J

http://www.facebook.com/PeterJacksonNZ#!/notes/peter-jackson/20-questions/10150241121756558

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Saoirse Ronan Will Not Appear in 'The Hobbit'

"It's probably not going to work out with The Hobbit unfortunately. "Because I would have been working for about a year on it and there were other projects that I was very interested in, but Pete and [his producer wife] Fran have been very good about it and very understanding.

Source

So, does this means that they're going to cast someone else as Itaril or has the character been taken out from the film?

 

[Boom]

Well, she said she probably wouldn't be able to do it, so we can't necessarily take it to the bank just yet.

But I hope it's true. No disrespect to Ronan, but I have never been on board with this Itaril character. And it's incredibly alarming that the role would have required her to be in NZ for a year. Then again, perhaps she meant that she'd be required to make several trips to NZ over the course of a year (like Tyler and Blanchett for LoTR). Either way, it's suggestive of a pretty substantial role - which concerns me.

Hopefully the hidden significance here is that the character was cut. I don't want another "Arwen at Helm's Deep" fiasco.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Yeah, there's probably a chance that she might end up playing Itaril but I'm crossing her out for the part already.

Anyway, I think one of the projects she's interested in could be Anna Karenina. So hopefully this means that she and, maybe, McAvoy will join the project since Wright was waiting for a response from them.

 

[redhawk23]

Yeah, there's probably a chance that she might end up playing Itaril but I'm crossing her out for the part already.

Anyway, I think one of the projects she's interested in could be Anna Karenina. So hopefully this means that she and, maybe, McAvoy will join the project since Wright was waiting for a response from them.

Actually I've heard she is doing a Stephanie Meyer adaptation.

 

[Sgt.Pepper]

Yeah, I heard that too. Hopefully she picks the former project. Tolstoy over Meyer, any day of the week.

 

[Kane52630]

Hugo Weaving Confirmed for The Hobbit

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=77384

Ian McKellen has updated his personal blog and in the process has confirmed that Hugo Weaving will return as Elrond in The Hobbit. Here is what he posted today:

Martin Freeman has left The Hobbit.

This is not another April Fool, just a May Fact. Before signing as Bilbo, Martin had agreed to make three 90-minute TV films in London, again playing Dr Watson to Benedict Cumberbatch's Sherlock Holmes. No worries: he'll be back in Middle Earth after our first hiatus, during which Peter Jackson will have spare time to edit the scenes already completed. The rest of the cast remains on duty for another few weeks, working on hobbit-less sections of the film. These involve dwarves of course but also elves, with Hugo Weaving back for a stretch as Lord Elrond.

Hugo was recently onstage as Astrov in Chekov's Uncle Vanya for the Sydney Theatre Company, whose director, Cate Blanchett, played Yelena. Before she returns as Galadriel, they will reprise their production at Washington DC's Kennedy Center in August. I shall miss the revival, because of my own play, Eduardo De Filippo's The Syndicate at Chichester Festival Theatre and a short UK tour.

Another slim-line elf returning from LOTR, is a local: New Zealand's actor/comedian/singer Bret McKenzie. Last time, he was an extra at Rivendell, the elven Last Homely House in the East. Under a tree at the Council of Elrond, he silently witnessed the forming of the Fellowship. Wordless maybe but not unnoticed by fans of the beautiful, who gave him the acronym F.I.G.W.I.T. ("Frodo Is Great! Who Is That?") I confess Gandalf didn't take much notice, distracted by the main action that involved all the main characters.

I only joined Bret's fan-base, when he joined up with Jermaine Clement in their hilarious tv series Flight of the Conchords. Now he is briefly back in Rivendell as a senior official at Elrond's Court and he has a name "Lindir", which means "singer". Tolkien has plenty of songs in The Hobbit but the script doesn't indicate that Lindir will be singing any of them. If, as he promises, Bret makes a Conchord feature film ere long, I shall angle for a non-speaking part as BIGWIT. ("Bret Is..." etc.)

And there's another wizard in town, preparing to make his appearance as Radagast the Brown, the eccentric friend of Gandalf's, played by Sylvester McCoy who was last in Wellington in 2007, King Lear's Fool in the Royal Shakespeare production in which I was his nuncle, now Sylvester's nick-name for me. This week he has been trying out his make-up and costume. At the prospect of our scenes together, Nuncle couldn't be happier.

— Ian McKellen, Wellington, 10 May 2011

 

[Angel_Faerie]

Ian, you bastard. That first sentence gave ma a heart attack.

 

[superkong 500]

Since the hobbit will be divided in two films and we know that the big battle/climax of part 2 will most likely be the battle of five armies I wonder if the big battle of part 1 will be in Dol guldur and if King Thranduil will be in it along with Gandalf and the council. Since dol guldur is within the extension of Thranduil's land, Maybe Gandalf convinces Thranduil to help the white council against the necromancer and he and maybe a couple of other elves (legolas maybe) go with them to attack the fortress.