Official UFC Thread - Part 3

[VictorCreed]

Question - I was just on Twitter & Steven Seagal is trending, it got me thinking, Seagal is a high level black belt in Aikido & has been involved to a degree in training with training with Anderson Silva & Lyoto Machida. I just wondered does anyone know any MMA fighters that come from an Aikido backround as their primary martial art?

My understanding was that Aikido was something that was a martial art that was more about fighting multiple opponents & disarming opponents with weapons.. although I don't know alot about it, I only know what I've seen on Youtube really.

Steven Seagal is a joke. Most real fighters agree.

Cung Le (towards the end...4:ish after)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UWJC0OZOYvg

Hendo has also called Seagal a joke on Twitter.

Seagal is totally riding the MMA/UFC wave...now that he's too old to compete. MMA has been around for almost 20 years, he talks like he should have been the Royce Gracie of MMA...well Steven, why weren't you?

 

[B]

Steven Seagal is a joke. Most real fighters agree.

Cung Le (towards the end...4:ish after)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UWJC0OZOYvg

Hendo has also called Seagal a joke on Twitter.

Seagal is totally riding the MMA/UFC wave...now that he's too old to compete. MMA has been around for almost 20 years, he talks like he should have been the Royce Gracie of MMA...well Steven, why weren't you?

Not really answering the question I asked but ok.

Who cares if Seagal is only coming into training MMA now? Doesn't really make him a joke or a fraud as I've seen people label him. You don't become a 7th degree black belt in any discipline if you don't enjoy martial arts/fighting.. surely having someone with such a backround helping teach fighters some technique will only benifit the sport.

The question Ariel Helwani put to Cung Le was a ******ed one, Seagal has been aiding in training Silva/Machida for 2/3 fights that we know about.. so the honest answer is the one Cung Le gave, he hasn't done anything really for the sport yet. Nothing that warrents special attention anyway. 5-10 more years of training with guys that end up becoming champions & then maybe he'll have the sort of legacy to ask that sort of question in my opinion.

When he would have been training Aikido, MMA was non-existant & any MMA that existed was in truth a joke sport. It was bad enough around UFC 1 when you'd guys running about with 1 boxing glove, no weight classes & essentially little rules. Seagal is 60 so he'd have been in his 40's by the time UFC 1 even came along.. if it had been more than rednecks fighting in a cage 20 years sooner yea he could have been to MMA what Royce Gracie is.

 

[Mace Bloodstone]

 

[B]

Silva seems very pissed, Sonnen seems more focused than ever to do the job right this time, if this doesn't turn out to be another great fight between the two I'll be amazed.

I'm pumped to see tonights card.

 

[CrypticOne]

Did Sonnen weigh in at 181?! I can't wait to see this fight!

 

[Mace Bloodstone]

 

[El Bastardo]

Wow, way to hold onto shorts there, Andy.

 

[EML420]

Wow I dont think I have ever felt so invested in a figh glad Silva won.

 

[Project862006]

anderson beat him down!!!

 

[The Game]

War Silva!!! pounded him then killed him with kindness

 

[Mace Bloodstone]

Wow, way to hold onto shorts there, Andy.

Do you really think that made any difference in the outcome?

 

[E-Man]

Anderson went into GOAT mode in that second round. First he looked nervous and a little sloppy, but then he relaxed and shrugged all of Chael's takedowns off. Incredible. Dude has stuffed takedowns from the best wrestler in his division.

10 title defenses. Seriously. This guy is something else.

 

[EML420]

During his fight with Griffin Silva doged some of his punches and he did the same thingn with Sonnen just side steped him lol.

 

[VictorCreed]

Not really answering the question I asked but ok.

Who cares if Seagal is only coming into training MMA now? Doesn't really make him a joke or a fraud as I've seen people label him. You don't become a 7th degree black belt in any discipline if you don't enjoy martial arts/fighting.. surely having someone with such a backround helping teach fighters some technique will only benifit the sport.

The question Ariel Helwani put to Cung Le was a ******ed one, Seagal has been aiding in training Silva/Machida for 2/3 fights that we know about.. so the honest answer is the one Cung Le gave, he hasn't done anything really for the sport yet. Nothing that warrents special attention anyway. 5-10 more years of training with guys that end up becoming champions & then maybe he'll have the sort of legacy to ask that sort of question in my opinion.

When he would have been training Aikido, MMA was non-existant & any MMA that existed was in truth a joke sport. It was bad enough around UFC 1 when you'd guys running about with 1 boxing glove, no weight classes & essentially little rules. Seagal is 60 so he'd have been in his 40's by the time UFC 1 even came along.. if it had been more than rednecks fighting in a cage 20 years sooner yea he could have been to MMA what Royce Gracie is.

********. That was the whole point of UFC. To prove which discipline was best. No one had ever heard of Jiu Jitsu, much like no one has still ever heard of Aikido now. The way he talks now, it would have been easy for him to destroy all those rednecks in UFC 1. So why didnt he do it?

If Seagal really wanted to prove his style is/was the best, then he should have done it then, not try to retroactively pretend he had anything to do with the evolution of modern MMA now all of a sudden.

 

[VictorCreed]

I'm soooo glad Chael lost, but the way he lost kind of sucked.

Chael "fail" Sonnen: Worst spinning backfist fail ever?

 

[brainchild81]

Did Fail say anything interesting after he got his ass whooped?

 

[VictorCreed]

Did Fail say anything interesting after he got his ass whooped?

Not really.

But Anderson brought Chael over and said something I hope was WAY different from what his translator said in english.

That would be the biggest clown EVER if he did.

 

[E-Man]

Nothing Chael really could say. I wish Anderson rubbed it in a bit, but oh well. I wonder where Chael goes next. For Anderson there is really no one left. Maybe Lombard if he beats Boetsch, but even then Lombard has a ton to prove in terms of opponents.

 

[EML420]

No he was cool about it has cool has any one can be after loosing but when Sonnen missed with the back fist and fell on the ground to me it looked he knew he was in trouble.

 

[VictorCreed]

Nothing Chael really could say. I wish Anderson rubbed it in a bit, but oh well. I wonder where Chael goes next. For Anderson there is really no one left. Maybe Lombard if he beats Boetsch, but even then Lombard has a ton to prove in terms of opponents.

I wish he would go to LHW, but he won't.

 

[EML420]

Hes fought some LHW fighters and held his own quite well but they sacrificed Forrest to Silva when he pretty much beat every there was to beat in his divison so if Jon Jones does the same and just keeps putting guys away maybe they could fight probaly just a crazy idea but I can dream.

I still want Silva Vs GSP...

 

[VictorCreed]

Hes fought some LHW fighters and held his own quite well but they sacrificed Forrest to Silva when he pretty much beat every there was to beat in his divison so if Jon Jones does the same and just keeps putting guys away maybe they could fight probaly just a crazy idea but I can dream.

I still want Silva Vs GSP...

I don't. I think it would go just like the Sonnen fight. Anderson needs to fight "bigger"(same size guys at LHW) not smaller at WW.

 

[B]

Fight went pretty much like any other Anderson Silva fight, first round was the feeling out round & the 2nd was the finishing round. Fight pretty much went how I expected it to go with a 2nd round finish.

Tito looked terrible in his final performance, I hope he doesn't go fight anywhere else. It looks like hes at the stage were his mind is saying yes but his body is saying no. Very static & was like a punching bag for Griffin for alot of the fight.

********. That was the whole point of UFC. To prove which discipline was best. No one had ever heard of Jiu Jitsu, much like no one has still ever heard of Aikido now. The way he talks now, it would have been easy for him to destroy all those rednecks in UFC 1. So why didnt he do it?

If Seagal really wanted to prove his style is/was the best, then he should have done it then, not try to retroactively pretend he had anything to do with the evolution of modern MMA now all of a sudden.

Probably for the reason I already gave you, by the time UFC 1 was happening Seagal was in his 40's.. far too old & already fairly successful from movies to even considering going into a sport that even in 1993 still had little rules with no real money to be made.

 

[Project862006]

weidman/munoz could clear up next fight

weidman could be a threat to silva

he is basically a younger chael with a submission game

 

[Texas Zombie]

Wow it looked as though anderson threw an illegal knee.

I do think that the next number one contender spot should be Alan belcher vs blank(winner of Munoz/Weidman).

Also if chael continues to fight, give him belfort.

Plus bisping is in there too so idk.