Official UFC Thread - Part 3

[B]

I was talking about the fight before the main event.

That wasn't a title fight though..

All of the fights on the Main Card I thought were good bouts bar the Evans/Jones fight.. even if it had, had very little hype it was still a very dull fight I thought. It was made twice as bad though because both guys acted as if they were gonna try to punish or finish the other guy & neither displayed any sort of killer instinct in the fight itself.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

That wasn't a title fight though..

All of the fights on the Main Card I thought were good bouts bar the Evans/Jones fight.. even if it had, had very little hype it was still a very dull fight I thought. It was made twice as bad though because both guys acted as if they were gonna try to punish or finish the other guy & neither displayed any sort of killer instinct in the fight itself.

Precisely. I'm starting to believe the 'Bad Blood' angle was purely hype by the UFC's marketing department. Both Jones and Evans had opportunities, and neither took them.

I wouldn't be surprised if both Evans and Jones were spotted together getting a smoothie at this point.

 

[Project862006]

gsp does'nt even train at jacksons he said he has never trained with jones or condit lol

 

[TheVileOne]

Not sure what you saying about Jones never taking them. He clearly beat up Evans and put a dent in his head.

It's not Jones fault that Evans does this and *****es out constantly just like when he fought Rampage.

Also Roy Nelson isn't fighting Cain Velasquez. Nelson is just saying if he was asked he would take the fight. That fight ain't happening. He just lost to Fabricio Werdum.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Not sure what you saying about Jones never taking them. He clearly beat up Evans and put a dent in his head.

It's not Jones fault that Evans does this and *****es out constantly just like when he fought Rampage.

Also Roy Nelson isn't fighting Cain Velasquez. Nelson is just saying if he was asked he would take the fight. That fight ain't happening. He just lost to Fabricio Werdum.

Oh come on now. You're a fan of Jones, are you seriously gonna sit there and tell me that Jon did, in fact, try to go in for the finish? Once Jones smells blood, he swarms in and goes for the kill.

There were two moments that stuck out to me the most:

1.) The jarring elbow that wobbled Evans badly.
2.) The guillotine choke he placed Evans in.

 

[B]

Not sure what you saying about Jones never taking them. He clearly beat up Evans and put a dent in his head.

It's not Jones fault that Evans does this and *****es out constantly just like when he fought Rampage.

Also Roy Nelson isn't fighting Cain Velasquez. Nelson is just saying if he was asked he would take the fight. That fight ain't happening. He just lost to Fabricio Werdum.

He wobbled Rashad once or twice & forced him 2 or 3 times to take some steps back without looking to go any further dispite Rashad being visibly hurt.

Same with Rashad, he caught Jones a few times & while he did press forward he got into a certain close distance but seemingly refused to try to follow up.

Ordinarily it wouldn't have been an issue, just would have been a dull fight, but when both guys talk so much mess & then don't back it up in the cage it's irritating from a viewer perspective.

Evans did that before though, he talked all this mad **** about fighting Rampage where he was strongest & how he was gonna KO him & instead he tried to hump his leg for 3 rounds & was dancing about throwing jabs & feints.

Precisely. I'm starting to believe the 'Bad Blood' angle was purely hype by the UFC's marketing department. Both Jones and Evans had opportunities, and neither took them.

I wouldn't be surprised if both Evans and Jones were spotted together getting a smoothie at this point.

They over exaggerated the friend angle that's for sure, I don't think either hated each other as much as the promo material implied.. I think it was more a case of 'it would be feel sweet to beat him' from both fighters rather than an actual hatred.

 

[Paroxysm]

Cain Velasquez was set to face Frank Mir in the co-main event of UFC 146 prior to Alistair Overeem screwing everything up with his testing positive for elevated testosterone. With Frank Mir called up into the main event against Junior dos Santos, Velasquez was left without an opponent.

After some rumors and trolling (that included Roy Nelson saying he was going to fight Cain for the number one contender spot) Dana White now confirmed that Cain will be fighting Antonio Silva:

Don't believe any of the BS you read on the internet. Cain is fighting Bigfoot Silva May 26th in Vegas

Silva getting the call-up now leaves Roy Nelson without an opponent for the card. It's possible that Travis Browne may be given the big opportunity after wrecking Chad Griggs quickly at UFC 145, but that's just me spitballing possible replacement opponents.

I'm sure the UFC plans on trying to leave the main card as five heavyweight fights as it was a neat "gimmick" for the show.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/4/2...firms-cain-velasquez-vs-antonio-bigfoot-silva

 

[TheVileOne]

Told you guys it wasn't Roy. He's just saying he would take the fight if asked and trying to hype himself up.

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UFC 145 post-fight presser vid.

 

[Project862006]

hendo will likely lose but jones can not get sloppy like this imagine if that was hendo's right hand

 

[E-Man]

It sucks seeing Torres lose like he did last night. As a fan I can at least take solace in the fact that Frank Mir is taking the loss harder than I ever could.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

hendo will likely lose but jones can not get sloppy like this imagine if that was hendo's right hand

H-Bombs are not to be taken lightly. They nearly knocked out Shogun and they TKOed a legend in Fedor (both known for their chins).

If Jones gets reckless, Jones could get Bisping'ed.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

It sucks seeing Torres lose like he did last night. As a fan I can at least take solace in the fact that Frank Mir is taking the loss harder than I ever could.

Yeah man, I didn't feel Torres in that bout at all.

I think it's time for him to hang the gloves up. Miguel has been fighting for over a decade now and been a dominant champion before.

I'd bow out with dignity and move on (easier said than done though).

 

[Mjölnir]

H-Bombs are not to be taken lightly. They nearly knocked out Shogun and they TKOed a legend in Fedor (both known for their chins).

If Jones gets reckless, Jones could get Bisping'ed.

Rashad hits very hard as well, although that punch didn't land as flush as the angle makes it seem.

Hendo isn't without a chance but I think his chances of winning is significantly smaller than Rashad's. As small of a LHW as Rashad is, Hendo is even smaller and does not appear to have cardio for five rounds anymore. I expect to see Jones on top as Hendo, despite his wrestling credentials, isn't impossible to take down.

I'll be rooting for Hendo though.

 

[CrypticOne]

Hell yeah! I'm glad Torres and Schaub got knocked!

MacDonald is on a complete different level than Mills. I want to see a Triple Threat match between MacDonald, Hendricks, and Ellenberger. Great welterweights.

I don't see anyone beating Jones at 205. All Hendo has is a one punch shot.

 

[TheVileOne]

Henderson didn't knockout Fedor with an overhand right. He hooked an uppercut under Fedor's arm.

 

[E-Man]

Hendo doesn't have the speed or boxing of Rashad. He hits harder for certain, but Rashad is better at mixing his strikes up than Hendo. Rashad started looking for that one shot when he was dazed and down by some rounds, but Hendo looks for it all the time. Plus Hendo's takedown defense has never been that stellar, so Jones could just forgo the feet, take him down, brutally beat him down with the elbows, then proceed to celebrate while people claim he's ducking the heavyweights.

 

[CrypticOne]

Hendo doesn't have the speed or boxing of Rashad. He hits harder for certain, but Rashad is better at mixing his strikes up than Hendo. Rashad started looking for that one shot when he was dazed and down by some rounds, but Hendo looks for it all the time. Plus Hendo's takedown defense has never been that stellar, so Jones could just forgo the feet, take him down, brutally beat him down with the elbows, then proceed to celebrate while people claim he's ducking the heavyweights.

Yeah, I agree with everything here. The only advantage Hendo has is in his power.

 

[Project862006]

one advantage he does have and i has nothing to do with skill

he will push forward and be aggressive

rashad and rampage were in a defensive shell for like 3 rounds

alot of guys just stare at jones and watch what he is gonna hit them with

hendo wont be awe struck he will get in jones face

 

[E-Man]

It's hard to get in Jones' face because he has the longest reach in MMA, and he uses his length better than anyone. Hendo can try to get inside all he wants, but Jones will make it hard for him to do so. When you consider the fact that Hendo telegraphs the hell out of his right hand it will make it easier for Jones to read him. We're talking a great counterstriker going against a guy who wants to get inside and throw haymakers. Every now and then that puncher's chance prevails, but most of the time the smarter counterstriker wins. This is also not considering the fact that Jones is a much better MMA wrestler than Hendo is, and he can take it to the ground and destroy Hendo there.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Here's the difference though, if Jones even gets clipped by an H-Bomb or any other type of power strike and tracks backwards, Hendo will not hesitate. He'll be throwing H-Bomb after H-Bomb.

Dan is far more predictable but he'll still be a challenge. He's a great wrestler when he wants to be and possesses a concrete chin (he took Ando's, Fedor's and Shogun's strikes right on the button).

I think Hendo is aware that he's slower than Evans, and of Jones' reach and wrestling abilities.

 

[Project862006]

hendo has great hips as shown in the feijao fight

 

[B]

For me I think Henderson possesses the same sort of threat to Jones as Rampage did. Not known for being a versatile fighter that mixes punches, kicks & grappling up.. but has 2 powerful hands & if Jones gets careless he could be going night night.. same sort of situation as the Rampage fight.

If Jones applies a similar game plan as the Rampage fight & manages to stick to it, I'd say he'll finish Henderson inside 3 rounds. I don't think he'll knock him out cold, I think Henderson will probably fatigue if he doesn't pace himself & Jones will have easy pickings as he did against Shogun. Either a ref stoppage or a submission.

Henderson can beat him though, he might not be as quick as some of the other guys hes fought, but hes crafty.. & if Jones gets careless as Bisping did, it will be over the second Henderson smells blood.

 

[DaveMoral]

Hendo shouldn't be underestimated, but I'd still pick Jones.

I'm uber-pissed with Overeem. I have no doubts he would walk through Dos Santos. Ah well. Mir is going to get got, though. IMO.

 

[B]

Overeem explains his failed pre-UFC 146 drug test

Prior to the UFC 146 press conference in March, I aggravated an old rib injury on my left side. My doctor prescribed, and I accepted, an anti-inflammatory medication that was mixed with testosterone. I was completely unaware that testosterone was one of the ingredients in the medication. Although I was unaware, I do realize it is my job to know what I am putting into my body.

I respect the Nevada Commissioners and Executive Director Keith Kizer and what they are doing to keep
the sport of mixed martial arts regulated and safe for athletes. I look forward to working with them in the days and weeks ahead.

I don't buy it & I doubt many people will, hes been caught red handed & is trying to Chael Sonnen his way out of cheating.

I suspect this was part of the problem with the drugs test he had or should have had prior to the Lesnar fight, he knew he was going to fail it & skipped the country with some excuse.

 

[Project862006]

same excuse cyborg used lol