Official UFC Thread - Part 7

[I'm Batman.]

How incredible would it be for Silva to win the LHW belt on their biggest PPV ever though?

 

[VelcroWallet]

Nothing has been decided yet.

http://m.tmz.com/#article/2016/07/07/anderson-silva-ufc-200-cormier/

 

[B]

The fault is still on Jones and his camp.

Without question, if you are going to take a new supplement regardless of how or where you got it, in this day & age you must know what's in it regardless of how much of a pain in the ass it may be to look into what's acceptable by whichever anti-doping organisation is testing you.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Jones clearly juices. Are we really trying to act like he doesn't here? He has had weird blood test in the past. He'd probably fail any system that included a blood passport.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

GAT is saying this has nothing to do with them:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...upplement-failed-test-gat-nutrition/86811184/

 

[LoganGambit87]

 

[Poetic Chaos]

I guess Silva/Cormier is better than nothing. Don't know about Tate getting upgraded to headliner though. Pretty anticlimactic.

 

[Poetic Chaos]

I wonder how McGregor likes Alvarez winning.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Congrats to Eddie. He took the long road, but he finally proved he was the best LW in the world.

 

[CrypticOne]

Knew Eddie would win! HAHA! The Underground King is finally crowned.

I got Joanna tomorrow night.

Then for UFC 200: Anderson by KO, Hunt by KO (I don't know. I kinda see Lesnar winning too. Very tough fight to call.), Nunes by KO, Aldo by KO, and Browne by KO.

 

[I'm Batman.]

Cormier vs. Silva is a better fight anyway even if Silva is like forty years old now.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Anderson would be fighting a nature HW. He would get destroyed at this point.

 

[LoganGambit87]

not doubting silva he would of beat bisping if he did'nt celebrate early

 

[Poetic Chaos]

The way this year has gone, Jones probably would've lost.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Anderson is going to fight DC. I fear for his health.

 

[LoganGambit87]

anderson got gallbladder surgery 2 months ago and has'nt trained in a couple months oh and he is 41 lol

 

[B]

Jones clearly juices. Are we really trying to act like he doesn't here? He has had weird blood test in the past. He'd probably fail any system that included a blood passport.

To me guys that 'clearly juice', don't look anything like how Jon Jones typically looks. Guys that appear to be juicing at some point in their career, in my eyes anyway, are guys like Hector Lombard, Alistair Overeem, Vitor Belfort, Rousimar Palhares, Yoel Romero etc.

I don't know from that list who, if any, have failed tests off the top of my head, but those would be fighters I think have clearly been on something at some point in their career. I realise that there are other PED's as opposed to ones that just increase your muscular growth, but to me, at least visually those ones aren't 'clearly visible'. Thus far in his career, aside from him being better than everyone he's faced, I don't think there's been anything to point that he's been using PED's his entire career.

GAT is saying this has nothing to do with them:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...upplement-failed-test-gat-nutrition/86811184/

Well of course they'd say that, just in the same way 99.9% of fighters that test positive for something deny that they'd any knowledge of any wrongdoing.

I have read about GAT's products though before on some other forums regarding their usage & bodybuilders/athletes or whoever using them that are subjected to testing. Maybe it's just a typical legal disclaimer on their products in the same way some foods have something along the lines of: 'This product may contain traces of nuts'.

 

[CrypticOne]

anderson got gallbladder surgery 2 months ago and has'nt trained in a couple months oh and he is 41 lol

Gallbladder surgery isn't that serious, I've had it. One day operation with a one week (if that) recovery.

 

[B]

Terrible matchup for Anderson even with a full camp, DC is bigger, strong grinding wrestler combined with heavy hands.. that being said Anderson is the greatest ever & in the past has looked good at LHW, but this will be a tall order to beat DC.

It would be a tall order with an 8 week camp nevermind 2 days notice & coming off recovering from surgery.

 

[LoganGambit87]

anderson still is a nasty striker with a height,speed and reach advantage

anything can happen

 

[DarthSkywalker]

To me guys that 'clearly juice', don't look anything like how Jon Jones typically looks. Guys that appear to be juicing at some point in their career, in my eyes anyway, are guys like Hector Lombard, Alistair Overeem, Vitor Belfort, Rousimar Palhares, Yoel Romero etc.

I don't know from that list who, if any, have failed tests off the top of my head, but those would be fighters I think have clearly been on something at some point in their career. I realise that there are other PED's as opposed to ones that just increase your muscular growth, but to me, at least visually those ones aren't 'clearly visible'. Thus far in his career, aside from him being better than everyone he's faced, I don't think there's been anything to point that he's been using PED's his entire career.



Well of course they'd say that, just in the same way 99.9% of fighters that test positive for something deny that they'd any knowledge of any wrongdoing.

I have read about GAT's products though before on some other forums regarding their usage & bodybuilders/athletes or whoever using them that are subjected to testing. Maybe it's just a typical legal disclaimer on their products in the same way some foods have something along the lines of: 'This product may contain traces of nuts'.

He has had weird tests in the past. As DC pointed out before the fight with OSP happened, we'd see a different Jon Jones. We did. Why? Because the new testing is in. The dude he looks to for supplements doesn't exactly appear clean. Come on. Even if his B sample came back clean, everyone with a little knowledge of this stuff knows he and the vast majority of those in the UFC are on stuff. Am I to believe the guy who thinks doing cocaine off prostitutes would be adverse to using steroids?

The only name that would truly shock me is a Diaz brother at this point, and that has more to do with their fear of putting unnatural stuff in their bodies.

As to GAT, that they place that stuff on their labels means obviously it contains that stuff. Which would of course means Jones was doing that stuff on purpose, because labels exist. Other athletes send that stuff to the lab to make sure. But you don't put high end PEDs in that kind of stuff. Not cost effective. I see very little chance that Jones is on crap. He is probably doing the good stuff, and in this case he got nailed for two different things. Chances are he told GAT what he got busted for, and they know they don't put that stuff in their supplements. There is a good reason he didn't want to say what he was on. Namely that he is out looking for a supplement he can blame it on.

 

[B]

He has had weird tests in the past. As DC pointed out before the fight with OSP happened, we'd see a different Jon Jones. We did. Why? Because the new testing is in. The dude he looks to for supplements doesn't exactly appear clean. Come on. Even if his B sample came back clean, everyone with a little knowledge of this stuff knows he and the vast majority of those in the UFC are on stuff. Am I to believe the guy who thinks doing cocaine off prostitutes would be adverse to using steroids?

The only name that would truly shock me is a Diaz brother at this point, and that has more to do with their fear of putting unnatural stuff in their bodies.

A bit of a skewed viewpoint & opinion. Cocaine & weed walk hand in hand, both recreational drugs with different sorts of effects.. but just because a Diaz brother smokes weed or Jones does cocaine does not mean they are open & willing to taking all forms of drugs.

No name would shock me failing a drug test, especially not the Diaz brothers given that 2 or 3 of their long term camp members & friends have been caught in recent times.

As for everyone being on something, I mean when you are an athlete in any sport you are always taking supplements or things that are on the cutting edge to maximize your performance without breaking the regulations. The science behind it all I find to be quite silly at times as it constantly changes with things that were legal for years becoming illegal or acceptable levels of 'xyz' being adjusted. TRT is a very good example, how many years were guys honestly on TRT blatantly abusing that, yet legal.. and how many were actually on it that have not even been named.

As to GAT, that they place that stuff on their labels means obviously it contains that stuff. Which would of course means Jones was doing that stuff on purpose, because labels exist. Other athletes send that stuff to the lab to make sure. But you don't put high end PEDs in that kind of stuff. Not cost effective. I see very little chance that Jones is on crap. He is probably doing the good stuff, and in this case he got nailed for two different things. Chances are he told GAT what he got busted for, and they know they don't put that stuff in their supplements. There is a good reason he didn't want to say what he was on. Namely that he is out looking for a supplement he can blame it on.

Who knows, we'll need to know what he was caught with & then what his excuse was. Given that long before this incident occurred I'd read about the GAT products being questionable, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that one of their many products are responsible... or at least blamed by Jones.

 

[B]

anderson still is a nasty striker with a height,speed and reach advantage

anything can happen

For sure Anderson can beat him, even on 2 days notice, 41 years old, he is still dangerous.

It's a good matchup for DC given that Silva & Jones are similar in terms of height, reach & to an extent their range of striking.

 

[B]

Man, just watched the last embedded episode & DC shows just how much the fight with Jones meant to him, offered to sign a release & waiver to Dana just to make the fight happen knowing that Jones could be potentially juiced to the gills.

EDIT - Here's the episode if anyone cares. There are, currently, 4 others before as well:

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[DarthSkywalker]

B sample also full of hot fiyah:

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/16900329/jon-jones-b-sample-tests-positive-doping-violation