BoredGuy
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I figure if Captain America gets a negative reaction page, then this film deserves one too...
Let me begin by saying how much it pains me to feel so negatively towards an X-men movie. I loved X1 and 2, and the X-men are the entire reason I read comics.
But then came X3, and that stunning disappointment of a film. So much potential, with great trailers that got us all hyped, and then... that POS was released and we had been duped. Wolverine was much the same. Great director, great cast, super simple story to adapt. And then..well.. you all know how that went.
Now, we have a trailer that doesn't do a damn thing for me, with numerous d-list characters, on a extra-rushed production schedule. As I seem to be the only one here really hating on this thing, I thought I would attempt to elucidate my points of contempt.
1-The hellfire club. I've mentioned this in other threads, so I won't go over it too much again. Basically, the hellfire club wasn't the playboy mansion, and Shaw is not Hugh ****ing Hefner. Emma is not just some playboy bunny ****e (though this is an assumption, no evidence on that part)
2-Just because you want to differentiate your portrayal of Xavier from Patrick Stewart's doesn't mean you make the man a sex addict. I understand wanting to show that he occasionally used his powers in negative ways, but you don't want to turn the character into a friggin creep. Yes, Xavier grew and changed over the years, but when you start off the way McAvoy describes Xavier, it's difficult to be a redeemable character.
3-Magneto is the only cool character. I know Beast and Havok have their fans, but seriously, all the other characters are c-list at best. Darwin? ****in Azazel?? They could have made this the Magneto origin film, featuring only Xavier and the Hellfire club, and it would make perfect sense. Why purposely screw continuity to add characters very few people care about?
4-Matthew Vaughn-His comment about telling fans they're wrong. Well **** him. If a fan wants it to stick more closely to the comics, that is their perogative, who is he to say they're "wrong". Also, he said how they are always changing the story and it doesn't make sense. ********. Retcons happen, fairly often even, but I could still easily break down the origin(or at least essence) of both the X-men and the individual characters for you. So yeah, he's "wrong"
Basically, I know they made changes to the original continuity already. But the changes in those films seemed to be in an effort to distill the best parts of X-men's 40 year history down into something that would fit in 1 to 3 films. They included some of the most popular characters, and the plots were generic enough to appeal to each generation of fans. Now, they're changing the X-men's entire origin to shoehorn in some lame-ass characters.
I'm not suggesting they make a true First Class film with the 05 (Cyclops, Jean, Beast, and Storm would've been perfectly fine as the originals). But they easily could have maintained their own continuity and constructed a compelling origin story for X and Mags without ****in it all up. Because seriously, if Havok is Cyclops father, I may lose my **** in-theater.
I know that I'll be chewed out momentarily for this Blasphemy, but this is how I feel, painful as it is.
I hope it's a good film, but it is not the X-Men.
Let me begin by saying how much it pains me to feel so negatively towards an X-men movie. I loved X1 and 2, and the X-men are the entire reason I read comics.
But then came X3, and that stunning disappointment of a film. So much potential, with great trailers that got us all hyped, and then... that POS was released and we had been duped. Wolverine was much the same. Great director, great cast, super simple story to adapt. And then..well.. you all know how that went.
Now, we have a trailer that doesn't do a damn thing for me, with numerous d-list characters, on a extra-rushed production schedule. As I seem to be the only one here really hating on this thing, I thought I would attempt to elucidate my points of contempt.
1-The hellfire club. I've mentioned this in other threads, so I won't go over it too much again. Basically, the hellfire club wasn't the playboy mansion, and Shaw is not Hugh ****ing Hefner. Emma is not just some playboy bunny ****e (though this is an assumption, no evidence on that part)
2-Just because you want to differentiate your portrayal of Xavier from Patrick Stewart's doesn't mean you make the man a sex addict. I understand wanting to show that he occasionally used his powers in negative ways, but you don't want to turn the character into a friggin creep. Yes, Xavier grew and changed over the years, but when you start off the way McAvoy describes Xavier, it's difficult to be a redeemable character.
3-Magneto is the only cool character. I know Beast and Havok have their fans, but seriously, all the other characters are c-list at best. Darwin? ****in Azazel?? They could have made this the Magneto origin film, featuring only Xavier and the Hellfire club, and it would make perfect sense. Why purposely screw continuity to add characters very few people care about?
4-Matthew Vaughn-His comment about telling fans they're wrong. Well **** him. If a fan wants it to stick more closely to the comics, that is their perogative, who is he to say they're "wrong". Also, he said how they are always changing the story and it doesn't make sense. ********. Retcons happen, fairly often even, but I could still easily break down the origin(or at least essence) of both the X-men and the individual characters for you. So yeah, he's "wrong"
Basically, I know they made changes to the original continuity already. But the changes in those films seemed to be in an effort to distill the best parts of X-men's 40 year history down into something that would fit in 1 to 3 films. They included some of the most popular characters, and the plots were generic enough to appeal to each generation of fans. Now, they're changing the X-men's entire origin to shoehorn in some lame-ass characters.
I'm not suggesting they make a true First Class film with the 05 (Cyclops, Jean, Beast, and Storm would've been perfectly fine as the originals). But they easily could have maintained their own continuity and constructed a compelling origin story for X and Mags without ****in it all up. Because seriously, if Havok is Cyclops father, I may lose my **** in-theater.
I know that I'll be chewed out momentarily for this Blasphemy, but this is how I feel, painful as it is.
I hope it's a good film, but it is not the X-Men.