Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh What A Rush! Of A Wrestling Thread!

[Metallo]

Look at Hardy's eyes and all that nonsense with the shirt, he was totally out of it. Absolutely ridiculous position for TNA to put Sting in and he was clearly and rightly pissed off, he called the end on the fly and you're right, he forced Hardy to stay down.

The look on Stings face after he wins and the way he's standing with his hands on his hips really says it all. Then Hardy talking to the ref after the pinfall says it even more.
Pretty obvious something was wrong and Sting was not happy about it.

That's because I shouldn't HAVE to split hairs and say ""I'm only talking about major league promotion PPVs" No one but you expects that.

So I'm supposed to be Carnac and read your mind? A wrestling PPV is a wrestling PPV. you said worst wrestling PPV main event ever. Go back and read your own post. Where the old 90's ECW PPVs not wrestling PPVs just because its a small company? I expect it by the words YOU used instead of backtracking on what you said to suit your purposes.

I know you hate examples...but when someone says "Jason X is the worst horror movie ever" I COULD say "No, an unreleased hand held video filmed movie called Devil Of Blue Mountain was worse" but that would be silly...since no one saw Devil Of Blue Mountain...and only dozens have ever heard of it...so even though it is a feature length film, and is available if you search for it...it still doesn't "count" in normal conversations of worst horror movie ever.

Bad is bad...even if not everyone saw it. Not everyone has seen Manos...but its often considered one of the WORST films ever made. Just because the whole world hasn't seen it does that excuse its crappiness like it doesn't count? Of course not.

You're just splitting hairs in a way that very, very few people bother to do...

I'm not splitting hairs here. I'm going by your own wording. How is that splitting hairs? A wrestling ppv main event is a wrestling ppv main event.

And Heroes Of Wrestling was not a series of PPVs. History proves that.

It was supposed to be a series. I never said it WAS a series. They didn't do anymore because it was horrible and BOMBED. Even the people involved said that.

 

[Metallo]

Halloween Havoc 98 was also had the PPV match between Hogan and Warrior. A match so bad that Hogan burned his own damn face with flash paper and Bischoff said it was one the worst matches of all time.

 

[The Apocalypse]

People care about TNA still? I stopped watching wrestling a long time ago and their ratings were terrible. How the hell are they around still with people like Hogan Sting Hardy and Flair wrestling?

 

[Heretic]

I'm not going back on my words...I simply don't count a one-off PPV made up of past their prime guys not affiliated with a wrestling promotion as an official PPV. Everyone but you understood what I meant, because you take everything completely literally.

In wrestling....there are hundreds of indie feds...HUNDREDS of world titles...so if I say, who has held the most world titles...are you going to check every indie fed that has ever existed and count the title reigns?? You're really going to suggest Jack McCrack of Extreme Eastern Southern Extreme Wrestling Championship Extreme's 150 title reigns makes him more of a champion than HHH????

Under your hair splitting...YES...it would.

However...lets go ahead and include Heroes Of Wrestling...I STILL think that last night TNA PPV main event was worse.

 

[Metallo]

People care about TNA still? I stopped watching wrestling a long time ago and their ratings were terrible. How the hell are they around still with people like Hogan Sting Hardy and Flair wrestling?

Hogan hasn't wrestled in like a year and physically can't because of his back so I don't know what you're talking about there. The other guys are wrestling but they also have younger people besides them wrestling. Flair only wrestles part time but it still sucks that he still gets in the ring at all.

Old guys have always wrestled. Lou Thesz wrestled til he was like 75 so its nothing new. Taker is in his mid 40's and still wrestling. Dave Finlay was older than that and still wrestling until recently.

As for their ratings...they don't seem to be THAT bad in this day in age. Spike must feel they are good enough to keep them on. Smackdowns ratings still dip below 2.0 sometimes and its still on. These shows still draw a decent enough audience to fill airtime and cost less than some other on air content would. Thats the simplest answer.

I'm not going back on my words...I simply don't count a one-off PPV made up of past their prime guys not affiliated with a wrestling promotion as an official PPV. Everyone but you understood what I meant, because you take everything completely literally.

You are going back on your words. You're changing what you said into something else. How do you know what everyone understood? Speaking for other people once again? Just cause YOU don't count something doesn't make it true for the whole world. You said what you said and now you want to make some excuse by changing the rules during the game.

So now it wasn't an "official" ppv? WTF? Lets see...I'm pretty sure the show had to be licensed and they had deals with ppv providers. I'm pretty sure the PPV was OFFICIAL...even if it was small time. It had experienced talent, not a bunch of backyarders.

Heroes of Wrestling was a wrestling PPV. Explain to me how it WASN'T a PPV and then you might have a point. By your logic ECW PPV's don't count because ECW was small. Or maybe the Crockett PPV's don't count because JCP was a smaller company in the late 80's before Turner bought them out. Do the old AWA Superclash ppv's count because most people haven't seen them? THAT is splitting hairs.

In wrestling....there are hundreds of indie feds...HUNDREDS of world titles...so if I say, who has held the most world titles...are you going to check every indie fed that has ever existed and count the title reigns?? You're really going to suggest Jack McCrack of Extreme Eastern Southern Extreme Wrestling Championship Extreme's 150 title reigns makes him more of a champion than HHH????

Most of those feds don't have national exposure. Heroes of Wrestling was available to everyone on PPV who wanted to buy it. And even WWE has pointed out most of Jerry Lawlers COUNTLESS title reigns with regional titles so that kind of stuff isn't always ignored...try again.

Under your hair splitting...YES...it would.

However...lets go ahead and include Heroes Of Wrestling...I STILL think that last night TNA PPV main event was worse.

You're the one splitting hairs by making some excuse like, "Oh I said a wrestling ppv but a meant a BIG ppv from one of the BIG companies. I'm changing the rules because what I said before isn't good enough right now!"

And Yoko and Jake Roberts were more embarrassing than Hardy. At least Hardy didn't simulate a sexual situation with a damn animal in front of people. Unless you're going to try and once again change things and say Jake Roberts jacking off his snake like his penis was anything good or what people payed their hard earned money to see. Do you really think people took their kids to that show to see that?

What about a drunken Jake slugging over to some woman in the front row to get her to grab his sagging man boobs? At least Hardy ddidn't subject me to a sight like that.

Yokozuna was morbidly obese for cryin out loud and should have been in a hospital...not a wrestling ring. Considering the guy was DEAD a couple of years later I think thats the truth.

 

[RetroNaz]

The actual Goldberg vs DDP match at HH '98 was awesome. Goldberg showed he could actually wrestle a decent match - but that was mostly due to DDP's infamous pre planning of each match. It's a shame no one really saw it. Other than the Hogan vs Warrior match I used to love this PPV - but that was back when my tastes were different to what they are now.

 

[Metallo]

The actual Goldberg vs DDP match at HH '98 was awesome. Goldberg showed he could actually wrestle a decent match - but that was mostly due to DDP's infamous pre planning of each match. It's a shame no one really saw it. Other than the Hogan vs Warrior match I used to love this PPV - but that was back when my tastes were different to what they are now.

They showed it on Nitro the next night after people asked for refunds. I remember because I was watching both nights and was pissed off that the damn show cut off during the match on ppv. Just a typical sign of WCW's incompetence and arrogance at the time when they let that happen.

I enjoyed it when I watched it later on tv and vhs but I think the damage was done with the audience. Hogan vs Warrior was just horrible though.

I think Bret Hart and Sting also had a match on that ppv.

 

[RetroNaz]

Yeah they did, actually, now that I remember it - that was just plain boring. I used to skip it. Bret was basically side lined by that point to just kicks and punches and leg drops.

I think I just enjoyed the amount of cruiserweights on the PPV at the time.

This was back when I watched WCW more than WWE.

 

[Metallo]

I remember being not very impressed by that match for some reason.

I think the next year we got an even worse "match" when Hogan just laid down for Sting in the middle of the ring. Seems like that kind of bullsh** became a habit in WCW.

Thats why I say people who think TNA was always "better" with Russo before just either forgot or don't know all the garbage he's done in WCW and TNA for years. A Rat on a Pole match in TNA? Then there was Sharmell vs that girl from Survivor in one off the worse wrestling matches I've ever seen.

Exclusive: Details Behind Hardy/Sting at TNA Victory Road
by Nick Paglino

Although there are many reports online at this moment regarding why the main event at Victory Road went only one minute, twenty eight seconds, the fact is that no one really knows yet what happened in the ring.
Here's what we have gathered, at this hour, from a variety of sources.

There was general concern throughout the day on the condition of Jeff Hardy. The finish of the match was never discussed with agents, announcers, or the production truck as a one minute, twenty eight second match. Sting's physical limitations based on age and/or injury were not a factor.

There are two stories floating around right now. One is that the Bischoff announcement was designed to kill time, and Bischoff was sent down with what is called "an audible" (last minute change) to switch the finish. The other is that Sting, who was noticeably angry in the dressing room before the match (supposedly based on what he felt was Hardy's condition), "hooked the finish" and just ended the match after the first move, with referee Brian Hebner either counting three or being told from the back to get out of the match by counting three.
Either way, it will be very interesting how TNA President Dixie Carter handles this latest explosive situation in her dressing room.

We are working on several other stories arising out of this controversy. Keep checking back with WrestleZone tonight for much more.


Exclusive: More Facts vs Rumors on the Jeff Hardy Situation
by Nick Paglino

There are a million rumors flying around tonight about Jeff Hardy and his condition at the TNA Victory Road pay per view. We can report with certainty that TNA management was concerned about Jeff's condition this evening, and that was the reason the main event went one minute, twenty eight seconds. We can also report Sting was said to be furious over the situation, and apparently he wasn't the only one.

We can squash the rumor that Jeff Hardy was arrested after the show. We have several reports that Jeff left the arena, but not in police custody.
Keep it locked to WZ as there will be more to come on this breaking story.


Exclusive: TNA Locker "In an Uproar" Over Hardy Situation
by Nick Paglino
WrestleZone has spoken with several key insiders and several wrestlers in TNA, and the consensus opinion is that something has to be done regarding tonight's Victory Road pay per view debacle.

"This is the type of controversy that kills a promotion," one very concerned wrestler told us tonight, "what happens when Spike TV executives Doug Herzog, Kevin Kay and Brian Diamond watch this, and try to justify this to sponsors and advertisers? It's embarrassing, and it's terrible for the company to go off the air with the fans chanting ******** when the company knew they had a major problem to deal with."

"Why wasn't he replaced?" asked another wrestler, "why couldn't we have just handled it professionally, instead of risking everyone's well being, including Sting's and the fans, by putting someone who was not fit to wrestle out in the ring?" Even a key insider who is usually a Hardy defender told us "Jeff should not have been cleared to wrestle in that main event tonight."

While no one would pinpoint exactly what Hardy's problem was, it is clear TNA President Dixie Carter has a dressing room filled with concerned and angry talent at the moment. While Ric Flair's presence is "amusing" (as one wrestler put it), the precedent is being set for wrestlers to act in any way they want, and there is a sense of anarchy in the TNA dressing room right now.

"Bischoff doesn't have any authority. The agents don't lay down the law," one very prominent TNA wrestler told us, "no one learned from WCW what happens when the inmates take over the asylum!"

Hardy should be suspended or maybe even outright fired. At the very least he should be sent home the way Jeff Jarrett was after the affair with Karen Angle was made public because this is causing more problems than that ever did.

 

[RetroNaz]

TNA needs to clean house and have a real solid make over. Starting from the top and working right down even into the backstage and creative areas.

It's clear as day that things aren't working out, but they seem to adamant in defending this **** like it will actually take off.

When are they going to wake up and get a clue? Will it take Jeff having a seizure in the ring or Flair to have a heart attack or Hogan to break his back for them to see what's going on here?

And what the hell is with the Jarrett/Karen stuff? Get him off TV. The guy has never been a draw.

 

[Metallo]

Like I said, Hogan is an a**hole...but having him lay down for that 4 Life midcarder Jeff Jarrett was bullsh**. He wasn't a draw then and he certainly wasn't a draw as the 25 time NWA/TNA champion.

He was also never a Horsemen. He's always been best in a supporting role as a utility heel.


As for Hardy...the person who needs to be out the door the most is the person who made the call to send him down to the ring. It was just an insane call. I'm curious to know who that was.

 

[RetroNaz]

I wonder if it got through Dixie? She seems like she's got a decent head on her shoulders to NOT allow such a move...

I hope this somehow ends with Russo being shown the door lol. I can live in hope.

 

[Heretic]

Hogan hasn't wrestled in like a year and physically can't because of his back so I don't know what you're talking about there. The other guys are wrestling but they also have younger people besides them wrestling. Flair only wrestles part time but it still sucks that he still gets in the ring at all.

Old guys have always wrestled. Lou Thesz wrestled til he was like 75 so its nothing new. Taker is in his mid 40's and still wrestling. Dave Finlay was older than that and still wrestling until recently.

As for their ratings...they don't seem to be THAT bad in this day in age. Spike must feel they are good enough to keep them on. Smackdowns ratings still dip below 2.0 sometimes and its still on. These shows still draw a decent enough audience to fill airtime and cost less than some other on air content would. Thats the simplest answer.





You are going back on your words. You're changing what you said into something else. How do you know what everyone understood? Speaking for other people once again? Just cause YOU don't count something doesn't make it true for the whole world. You said what you said and now you want to make some excuse by changing the rules during the game.

So now it wasn't an "official" ppv? WTF? Lets see...I'm pretty sure the show had to be licensed and they had deals with ppv providers. I'm pretty sure the PPV was OFFICIAL...even if it was small time. It had experienced talent, not a bunch of backyarders.

Heroes of Wrestling was a wrestling PPV. Explain to me how it WASN'T a PPV and then you might have a point. By your logic ECW PPV's don't count because ECW was small. Or maybe the Crockett PPV's don't count because JCP was a smaller company in the late 80's before Turner bought them out. Do the old AWA Superclash ppv's count because most people haven't seen them? THAT is splitting hairs.


Most of those feds don't have national exposure. Heroes of Wrestling was available to everyone on PPV who wanted to buy it. And even WWE has pointed out most of Jerry Lawlers COUNTLESS title reigns with regional titles so that kind of stuff isn't always ignored...try again.


You're the one splitting hairs by making some excuse like, "Oh I said a wrestling ppv but a meant a BIG ppv from one of the BIG companies. I'm changing the rules because what I said before isn't good enough right now!"

And Yoko and Jake Roberts were more embarrassing than Hardy. At least Hardy didn't simulate a sexual situation with a damn animal in front of people. Unless you're going to try and once again change things and say Jake Roberts jacking off his snake like his penis was anything good or what people payed their hard earned money to see. Do you really think people took their kids to that show to see that?

What about a drunken Jake slugging over to some woman in the front row to get her to grab his sagging man boobs? At least Hardy ddidn't subject me to a sight like that.

Yokozuna was morbidly obese for cryin out loud and should have been in a hospital...not a wrestling ring. Considering the guy was DEAD a couple of years later I think thats the truth.

Allow me to explain one more time...

INCLUDING Heroes Of Wrestling....I believe that Hardy vs Sting is the worst PPV main event I had heard of (I hadnt heard of the Goldberg/DDP fiasco).

Now...I am NOT going back on my word...I am INCLUDING Heroes Of Wrestling. The reason why is very simple...NO ONE expected a high quality match that night. NO ONE expected the match to mean anything at all even in the short term. The people who bought that PPV had no reason to believe that it would be anything more than a goofy, nostalgic night of wrestling, with guys way past their prime who shouldnt even be in the ring. Sting vs Hardy was for a world title...one that is recognized and covered by every wrestling news organization. This match had major importance, and was promoted to be a huge match with huge ramifications for months to come.

So...AGAIN...I am not trying to squirm out of what I said earlier.

However, what several people have tried to explain to you is...Heroes Of Wrestling was a one time goofball event that no one took seriously. Unlike ECW, AWA, Mid South, TNA etc etc etc Heroes Of Wrestling had no storylines...no ongoing feuds...no promises to feature any of the wrestlers ever again...no titles...no history...they had NOTHING. They had less going for it than your average local indie fed. It was a one time experiment to see if people would pay to see washed up broken down wrestlers, just for the sake of seeing them again. You simply CANNOT seriously be comparing this to an ECW PPV event, as if the two were in any way similar outside of the "sport" of wrestling being involved.

And for the record...last night I defeated my dog Honey Bunny to win the world title for the 800th time. Also, I am undefeated, as I have lost my smile 799 times, and had to forfeit each time. So, I have the most world title reigns, and the longest win streak in wrestling history...please mention that if anyone ever tries to tell you that some other wrestler actually holds those records.

 

[The Sage]

Dang it Jeff!

In two years his star has fallen, from having the best feud of 2009 to this. It was already silly to make him champion considering his court dates and his match with Anderson was the obvious red flag.

Between him, Nash and Booker, TNA really needs to stop putting their hopes on outside talent on focus on what they have.

Lord help me, my enjoyment of wrestling is getting diminished...

 

[RetroNaz]

Me too Sage.

Matt doesn't look all that healthy either.

I really hope the news picks up on Jeff's issues, that'll be what it takes for TNA to wake up and smell the responsibility.

To think I actually cared about their stupid little promotion and have basically been a fan since it's inception. This is just another nail in the coffin that's pretty much ready to be buried and forgotten about from my end.

 

[chapin]

lets just wait for the TNA tweets..

 

[RetroNaz]

I'm really hoping the big news people pick up on the incident (assuming Jeff was under some kind of influence).

Yes it will be ANOTHER bad mark on wrestling, but when will these stupid, self serving, money hungry, incompetent clowns wake up?

Kids watch this **** for goodness sake. Oh never mind Jeff, son. He's just coked up on drugs, you'll see for yourself when you take it up just like your role model then we can have a snort with the Hardy Boys at their next signing convention to pay for their next fix or get out of jail money.

 

[The Sage]

Me too Sage.

Matt doesn't look all that healthy either.

I really hope the news picks up on Jeff's issues, that'll be what it takes for TNA to wake up and smell the responsibility.

To think I actually cared about their stupid little promotion and have basically been a fan since it's inception. This is just another nail in the coffin that's pretty much ready to be buried and forgotten about from my end.

I don't want TNA to fail but they need a rude awakening. The news may not pick up on it, but Spike TV's executives will most likely and tell Dixie to force Jeff into rehab. It was them that lead to Sting getting the title back.

I feel bad for Matt. No matter where he goes, his main priority is to keep Jeff in check. At this point though, there isn't much he can do.

What's even sadder is that Jeff was the favorite hero of a lot of kids and this is how he carries himself. It increases my respect for Cena even more, regardless of the tv gimmick.

 

[Heretic]

I am really wanting to know the FULL scoop on this...to heck with what happens to Hardy's career.

Did TNA send him out to wrestle, despite everyone knowing that he was on drugs and could potentially injure Sting?

Did Sting have to be the ONLY professional person in the company and call an audible himself in the match?

If TNA allowed this match to happen, and Sting and the referee made the decision to not allow Hardy to kill someone...then TNA has some explaining to do to everyone they do business with.

It makes no sense that TNA would allow Hardy and Sting to go out there, and THEN call an audible backstage to have Bischoff inform them of the change, when they could have just informed the wrestlers a minute earlier backstage. Although, if not calling an audible, what was the purpose of Bischoff talking to the wrestlers (off mic)? His presence did nothing for the match itself...so he had to be saying something about the match, right?

It's all a mystery that needs to be resolved. If TNA intentionally put Sting in harms way with a wrestler they knew was dangerous, then Sting should quit, sue Dixie's dad for every dime he has, and show up in the rafters at Mania pointing a bat at Taker after he wins...

 

[Hunter Rider]

Dang it Jeff!

In two years his star has fallen, from having the best feud of 2009 to this. It was already silly to make him champion considering his court dates and his match with Anderson was the obvious red flag.

Between him, Nash and Booker, TNA really needs to stop putting their hopes on outside talent on focus on what they have.

Lord help me, my enjoyment of wrestling is getting diminished...

It's a real plummet to the bottom for Jeff, sadly he's without doubt his own worst enemy. By all accounts he didn't leave WWE for the lighter schedule as they were willing to offer him a TV only contract which was a first, he left because they were monitoring him and trying to keep him off the junk, where as TNA don't seem to care no matter how much Angle puts Dixie over.

It's sad to note Flair is mentioned within the Hardy article, he looks like a sad old man out there these days, desperately trying to hang onto something that is long gone, who'd have thought the day would come where Hogan had more dignity?

The look on Stings face after he wins and the way he's standing with his hands on his hips really says it all. Then Hardy talking to the ref after the pinfall says it even more.
Pretty obvious something was wrong and Sting was not happy about it.

Sting could actually walk out as I'm pretty sure putting him out there with a coked up co-worker is a breach of contract.

 

[enterthemadness]

Beer Money retaining tag titles, Kaz retain X-Division is all good. AJ won as well. Don't know if matches were good or not, but at least they won.

 

[Hunter Rider]

It makes no sense that TNA would allow Hardy and Sting to go out there, and THEN call an audible backstage to have Bischoff inform them of the change, when they could have just informed the wrestlers a minute earlier backstage. Although, if not calling an audible, what was the purpose of Bischoff talking to the wrestlers (off mic)? His presence did nothing for the match itself...so he had to be saying something about the match, right?

The ref throws up the X and that is why Bischoff comes out, I can only imagine the part where he is talking to Sting that isn't audible is where he tells Sting to do what needs to be done.

 

[NDX]

Here's the match between Sting and Hardy from Victory Road. Based on how animated Sting was you can see he is pissed and physically kept Hardy down for the 3 count when he tried to kick up. Sting's reactions and body language made it obvious he was really pissed and you can see the "I agree" part when fans are chanting "BS"

Sting absolutely called the end to that match and went into shoot mode

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Hardy's right shoulder was up, so I'm thinking someone in the back told both Sting and the ref to just end it ASAP so Hardy doesn't hurt someone or himself.

 

[Heretic]

Makes sense I guess about the ref...and the entire backstage area must have been waiting on that signal.

Seriously though...TNA all but self destructed last night. From the terrible booking filled with nonfishishes and run ins, and then capped with Hardy making what should be a career-ruining performance...Spike, TNA's toy company etc should all be making some angry phone calls today about why the company keeps putting this guy in their main events.

Heck, from the way Hardy has been acting...he likely blames everyone but himself and is probably fuming angry over the "false accusations" that everyone is making.

 

[Superark]

I think he is just angry at Sting going back to such a dud promotion and tonight's farce only added to his annoyance.

As I said to Metallo, I think it was just his reaction to Sting being with the farcical promotion and what it has done since the days of AJ, Joe and Daniels..

That makes sense.

The dangerous thing about Jeff is he refuses to admit he has a problem, he think he is in control of his addiction and until he realizes he isn't things will only continue to spiral out of control on his descent to becoming the new Scott Hall.

He really is becoming the next Scott Hall.

I think it's especially frustrating because they should of been the organization that got it right. They could of been the 'cool' alternative to wwe or whatever. This isn't the worst ppv of all time by any means but they really need to find a way to recover from all this.

That's TNA's whole problem. They are trying to be something WWE is when WWE already feels that niche for fans. The only problem is those fans who enjoy that kind of a product have no reason to stop watching WWE. There is certainly a groupl of fans who want something different and and actual wrestling based show. TNA needs to identify themselves.

Just looking at the vid again, you can see at the 3:02 mark the ref throws up the X.

Nice catch.

I wonder if it got through Dixie? She seems like she's got a decent head on her shoulders to NOT allow such a move...

I hope this somehow ends with Russo being shown the door lol. I can live in hope.

Somehow I doubt it did. This is a woman who refuses to take Russo out of creative and continues to employ Hulk and Bischoff, despite the fact it has now cost her company money and has had the complete opposite effect of what you wee trying to accomplish.

It's a real plummet to the bottom for Jeff, sadly he's without doubt his own worst enemy. By all accounts he didn't leave WWE for the lighter schedule as they were willing to offer him a TV only contract which was a first, he left because they were monitoring him and trying to keep him off the junk, where as TNA don't seem to care no matter how much Angle puts Dixie over.

It's sad to note Flair is mentioned within the Hardy article, he looks like a sad old man out there these days, desperately trying to hang onto something that is long gone, who'd have thought the day would come where Hogan had more dignity? .

It's amazing to me that even the people in Hollywood had more sense about Charlie Sheen to let him go and yet TNA cannot even handle Jeff Hardy correctly.

Sting could actually walk out as I'm pretty sure putting him out there with a coked up co-worker is a breach of contract.

I'm really curious to how he felt about coming back to TNA after this incident. By all accounts he does not need the money and comes back because he has a good relationship with Dixie and she gives him the schedule that allows him to be a family man and spend time with his wife and kids (plus they always offer him a nice check). I wouldn't be surprised if Sting felt like he didn't need that kinda of crap in his life and threatened to leave. I've never in the 20 years I've been a Sting fan, have seen him act the way he did last night.