Old MCU Fantastic Four Discussion Thread

[BobJM]

He has a strong Italian accent.

I didn’t have trouble understanding him in The Old Guard. Is his accent any thicker than Mads Mikkelsens?

 

[Boom]

I didn’t have trouble understanding him in The Old Guard. Is his accent any thicker than Mads Mikkelsens?

No, but Mikkelsen has that vague, Eastern/Central European accent which suits Doom.

 

[Detective Conan]

Mads Mikkelson can still be MCU Doom.

Marvel cast Gemma Chan as Sersi in Eternals despite the fact she already played a totally different character in Captain Marvel. It doesn’t matter in Mikkelson’s case his character survived. It’s like not his villain was memorable anyway and Doom will mostly be in a mask anyway so he won’t be recognizable regardless.

 

[BobJM]

Fair. The voice will be modulated under the mask regardless (I’m thinking probably akin to Kylo Ren?)

 

[Dark Raven]

For Doom they need someone who could play Dracula. They also need to look at some old Hammer films for inspiration for Latveria.

 

[BobJM]

Mads Mikkelson can still be MCU Doom.

Marvel cast Gemma Chan as Sersi in Eternals despite the fact she already played a totally different character in Captain Marvel. It doesn’t matter in Mikkelson’s case his character survived. It’s like not his villain was memorable anyway and Doom will mostly be in a mask anyway so he won’t be recognizable regardless.

Casting actors again in the same franchise bugs me though lol

 

[BobJM]

I still think the stuck in the Quantum Realm idea is pretty needless and dumb

Too many heroes in the MCU are time displaced. Agreed that it’s needless

 

[Boom]

For Doom they need someone who could play Dracula. They also need to look at some old Hammer films for inspiration for Latveria.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I hope so—the more they keep reiterating that it’s Marvel’s first family though makes me nervous that it will be a period piece.

When I saw Quantumania, admittedly my first thought was Fantastic Four.

Excited for the little bit of news though; and I enjoy the MCU Spider-Man movies so Watts announcement was a positive in my book.

First Family is what they're called in the comics. We call the President and First Lady the First Family, and that doesn't refer to like George Washington. So, I wouldn't read into that

 

[BobJM]

First Family is what they're called in the comics. We call the President and First Lady the First Family, and that doesn't refer to like George Washington. So, I wouldn't read into that

lol no I get the moniker—I just think Feige is hitting us in the head with it. Like how he kept saying ahead of Endgame that the multiverse is the future of the MCU. We just thought it was marketing speak, but now we have a trilogy of projects dedicated to just that.

 

[DyeLorean]

I wonder how are they gonna call it to separate this version from the previous ones.
Marvel's Fantastic Four?

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

How likely is it for the FF to appear in the MCU before their own movie? I’d say the odds are quite high.

I'm thinking Ant-Man 3.

 

[metaphysician]

Breaking news: Fantastic Four will be directed by Jon Watts.

I guess we really will get to see how much the weaknesses of the new Spider-man movies are Watts, vs Sony.

 

[BobJM]

I wonder how are they gonna call it to separate this version from the previous ones.
Marvel's Fantastic Four?

I actually wouldn’t mind the subtitle Family First, or First Family

Another cool idea would be to have Indiana Jones-type subtitles like

The Fantastic Four and the Saga of the Sub-Mariner

The Fantastic Four and the Coming of Galactus

The Fantastic Four and the Lost Inhuman City on the Moon (lol)

 

[DyeLorean]

I actually wouldn’t mind the subtitle Family First, or First Family

Another cool idea would be to have Indiana Jones-type subtitles like

The Fantastic Four and the Saga of the Sub-Mariner

The Fantastic Four and the Coming of Galactus

The Fantastic Four and the Lost Inhuman City on the Moon (lol)

The Fantastic Four and the Rise of the Silver Surfer

Oh wait!

 

[BobJM]

The Fantastic Four and the Rise of the Silver Surfer

Oh wait!

lol I legitimately forgot that was the title

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I hope so—the more they keep reiterating that it’s Marvel’s first family though makes me nervous that it will be a period piece.

When I saw Quantumania, admittedly my first thought was Fantastic Four.

Excited for the little bit of news though; and I enjoy the MCU Spider-Man movies so Watts announcement was a positive in my book.

I think Watts as director greatly reduces the possibility of it being a period piece. That was Peyton Reed’s idea (20 years ago or more).

If Reed were directing, I think the idea of a period piece tied to the Quantum realm would have been much more likely.

And frankly I would have been much less surprised to hear Peyton Reed announced as director. He’s been lobbying for it.

Watts was a complete surprise to me.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I guess we really will get to see how much the weaknesses of the new Spider-man movies are Watts, vs Sony.

I think the Sony thing is a real factor. Marvel never dove in with both feet.

I think Marvel will be more fully engaged in FF, and I expect that to make a difference.

 

[Detective Conan]

I think Watts as director greatly reduces the possibility of it being a period piece. That was Peyton Reed’s idea (20 years ago or more).

If Reed were directing, I think the idea of a period piece tied to the Quantum realm would have been much more likely.

And frankly I would have been much less surprised to hear Peyton Reed announced as director. He’s been lobbying for it.

Watts was a complete surprise to me.

Watts must’ve really impressed Kevin Feige with his pitch — whatever it was. It has to have been something way more fresh and original than simply the ‘displaced time travelers from the 60’s’ a lot of fans having been wanting.

 

[kguillou]

I think Marvel is taking the Dr Strange approach to this, in that the primary goal here is to make a safe movie just to get people onboard first before they dive into bigger and bolder stuff. And Jon Watts is safe. He’s going to make a perfectly competent, inoffensive comedic F4 movie whose primary goal is to get you to like the characters. Feige is always about the long term plan, they never go balls to the wall on the first attempt.

I dont like it but i get it and I respect it. I wouldve preferred someone with more of a Spielberg/Abrams touch to handle these characters.

 

[DyeLorean]

They know at this point what works and what doesn't, they have a pretty well oiled machine and they even have failed attempts of Fantastic 4, several examples of what not to do. Feige is also much closer to the earlier classic comic book versions of the characters, so I'm guessing they won't temper with it too much. They have all the right ingredients to finally make a good F4 movie.

 

[Detective Conan]

Jon Watts doing Fantastic Four is really going to be so much easier for him than doing Spider-Man because there literally isn’t any good FF films to compare his version to. He can make a FF movie as mediocre and forgettable as Thor: The Dark World and it’d still be the best FF film by default.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Casting actors again in the same franchise bugs me though lol

Totally agree.

 

[metaphysician]

There's something small time about Watts' Spider-Man films. You would never get the impression Spider-Man is the top dog at Marvel watching them. They are like eating cotton candy and the best MCU films are a satisfying meal.

The other Spider-Man films feel a lot bigger, even the bad ones.

I mean. . . in the MCU, he isn't. Why would you expect otherwise? He's a young, inexperienced teenager and street level hero, in a world in which far more powerful and experienced heroes have been active for about a decade. Do you really want the entire setting to magically rewarp itself to grant him importance unjustified by his actual position in it?

Insofar as Spider-man seems "bigger" in his earlier movies, its simply by default: he's the biggest most important hero because he's the *only* hero, in a world in which there were no prior superheroes, nor any other ones even after. You are never going to get the same effect in a mature comic book world.

 

[metaphysician]

I do expect some race-bending with the FF, but I do think Ben Grimm will remain white Jewish. Reed, Johnny, and Sue could be any race and I wouldn’t care.

My opinion remains the same: their races can be whatever, so long as Johnny and Sue have the *same* race. They are siblings, and no amount of special pleading will change that "adopted" translates as "We want a lily white love interest".