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Omega Red threads merged x4

chaseter said:
Lohan is gross...Ratner better wake up and realize he's 20 years her senior. Why would Lohan want Ratner anyways?
Hey it could be worse she could have gotten married to a crippled old man like Anna Nicole. Instead she's got a beer bellied X-Men nerd. :up: (No offense to all the beer bellied guys on here)
 
He probably said "Omega Kid", and whoever made the interview heard it as "Omega Red". Remember: On the call sheets, Ken Leungs character is referred to as "Quill" AKA "Omega Kid":-(
 
lordofthenerds said:
Hey it could be worse she could have gotten married to a crippled old man like Anna Nicole. Instead she's got a beer bellied X-Men nerd. :up: (No offense to all the beer bellied guys on here)

Love isn't always about ones physical self :)
 
Anton Oksehud said:
He probably said "Omega Kid", and whoever made the interview heard it as "Omega Red". Remember: On the call sheets, Ken Leungs character is referred to as "Quill" AKA "Omega Kid":-(
Actually its Kid Omega and I doubt it. I don't think Ratner would make a mistake like that.
 
People make mistakes, especially if you are a busy guy like ratner
 
I guess there saving him for the sequel,or the Wolverine spin off.
 
I still only think Omega will be a small cameo and we might not even see tentacles. If we do it would be a quick fight like the xkids in the mansion in X2. Ratner said Omega Red for a reason. There is not any characters who resemble or are pretty close to Omega for Ratner to get mixed up. Ratner must of seen or heard about Omega Red or filmed him. The director of the film should know what is going on and what characters are in it. Omega mutants are different from Omega Red. Ratner wouldn't of named Arclight, Calisto, and then omega mutant.
 
We actually still do not know. Ratner says he's in, Kinberg said he made a mistake. Either Kinberg is covering up something or Ratner knows nothing about what he is working on. I will believe that Omega Red is not in the film when Ratner himself states it. Ratner said it for a reason...
 
chaseter said:
We actually still do not know. Ratner says he's in, Kinberg said he made a mistake. Either Kinberg is covering up something or Ratner knows nothing about what he is working on. I will believe that Omega Red is not in the film when Ratner himself states it. Ratner said it for a reason...

Or Ratner lied to lead you on. He's a guy that you wouldn't put it past. Penn, who really said it, and Kinberg have always been straightforward with us, and if something else was revealed by someone else, then they would talk about it openly. Not straight out deny it. He's not in the movie.
 
what about that one report that came out, about wolverine fighting omega red and gauntlet in the woods, that report came out differntly then the ratner, zak penn stuff...i think he is still in it...i don't think it's past zak penn to trick the fans that think they know everyting about his screen play he wrote...point is i don't think it is fair to accuse brett ratner about playcatting the fans and not zak penn, i still think he is in the flick, and i will think that till i am proven wrong be the movie
 
L0ngsh0t said:
what about that one report that came out, about wolverine fighting omega red and gauntlet in the woods, that report came out differntly then the ratner, zak penn stuff...i think he is still in it...i don't think it's past zak penn to trick the fans that think they know everyting about his screen play he wrote...point is i don't think it is fair to accuse brett ratner about playcatting the fans and not zak penn, i still think he is in the flick, and i will think that till i am proven wrong be the movie

Yeah, that came from Ricky, otherwise known as the Chupacabra.
 
Specter313 said:
Or Ratner lied to lead you on. He's a guy that you wouldn't put it past. Penn, who really said it, and Kinberg have always been straightforward with us, and if something else was revealed by someone else, then they would talk about it openly. Not straight out deny it. He's not in the movie.
Or Kinberg lied to lead you on. We still don't know. Omega Red could still be in the movie. Ratner is on that set everyday and Kinberg is not. Ratner ultimately can decide what he wants in the movie and what he doensn't from the story Zach and Kinberg wrote. Zach and Kinberg have not been straightforward with us. They have only revealed stuff they can and dodged other questions...especially Kinberg. Maybe Omega Red was a spoiler that Ratner blurted out. Why would Ratner say that anyways???? Omega Red isn't one of those mutants to get confused with. And no they would not talk openly about it if someone slipped. What if Ratner said no sentinels, and then Kinberg rushed in and said he is wrong? Fact of the matter is that this is still up in the air. I would trust the director more personally than the guys who wrote the script and have nothing to do with its filming.
 
chaseter said:
Or Kinberg lied to lead you on. We still don't know. Omega Red could still be in the movie. Ratner is on that set everyday and Kinberg is not. Ratner ultimately can decide what he wants in the movie and what he doensn't from the story Zach and Kinberg wrote. Zach and Kinberg have not been straightforward with us. They have only revealed stuff they can and dodged other questions...especially Kinberg. Maybe Omega Red was a spoiler that Ratner blurted out. Why would Ratner say that anyways???? Omega Red isn't one of those mutants to get confused with. And no they would not talk openly about it if someone slipped. What if Ratner said no sentinels, and then Kinberg rushed in and said he is wrong? Fact of the matter is that this is still up in the air. I would trust the director more personally than the guys who wrote the script and have nothing to do with its filming.

First of all, Penn said it. I already told you that once. Second of all, yes they have been straightforward with stuff when it was already revealed by others. If what Ratner had said was true, then they would have talked about it openly instead of shooting it down. Next, get that thought out of your head right now that a director can add anything he wants to the movie. He has to go through it with everyone one else in the creative process, including the writers, and essentially get permission to do it. And yes, the writers are on set almost all the time. If he wants to add something, they have to be able to write it in. If the writers said he made a mistake and a character is not in the movie, then he's not in the movie. I know you're upset that all this defense you've put into this character is for naught now, but you should just face the facts right now and move on instead of acting like a desperate little child who was just told that Santa doesn't exist.
 
Specter313 said:
First of all, Penn said it. I already told you that once. Second of all, yes they have been straightforward with stuff when it was already revealed by others. If what Ratner had said was true, then they would have talked about it openly instead of shooting it down. Next, get that thought out of your head right now that a director can add anything he wants to the movie. He has to go through it with everyone one else in the creative process, including the writers, and essentially get permission to do it. And yes, the writers are on set almost all the time. If he wants to add something, they have to be able to write it in. If the writers said he made a mistake and a character is not in the movie, then he's not in the movie. I know you're upset that all this defense you've put into this character is for naught now, but you should just face the facts right now and move on instead of acting like a desperate little child who was just told that Santa doesn't exist.
Penn said it ohhhh my mistake. How do you know what they would have done? How do you know Omega Red isn't a twist in the story just like sentinels may be...to which they continue to be secretive about? You don't know so quit pretending like you do. Obviously something is up that needs to be cleared up with by Ratner himself. And yes, dialogue as well as abunch of other things can be changed by the director or the actors to better the story, but it must be agreed upon. You still have no proof if Omega Red is in the movie so quit being a martyr for that cause. Show me proof and I will believe you. Ratner said he is in, Penn said he is not. What does this proove??? NOTHING AT ALL. We are back to where we started. And until Ratner retracts that statement...you have just as much proof as I do. And yes, Santa does exist.
 
chaseter said:
Or Kinberg lied to lead you on. We still don't know. Omega Red could still be in the movie. Ratner is on that set everyday and Kinberg is not. Ratner ultimately can decide what he wants in the movie and what he doensn't from the story Zach and Kinberg wrote. Zach and Kinberg have not been straightforward with us. They have only revealed stuff they can and dodged other questions...especially Kinberg. Maybe Omega Red was a spoiler that Ratner blurted out. Why would Ratner say that anyways???? Omega Red isn't one of those mutants to get confused with. And no they would not talk openly about it if someone slipped. What if Ratner said no sentinels, and then Kinberg rushed in and said he is wrong? Fact of the matter is that this is still up in the air. I would trust the director more personally than the guys who wrote the script and have nothing to do with its filming.

So Penn would backtrack on Omega, but not on Sentinels? :confused:
 
chaseter said:
Penn said it ohhhh my mistake. How do you know what they would have done? How do you know Omega Red isn't a twist in the story just like sentinels may be...to which they continue to be secretive about? You don't know so quit pretending like you do. Obviously something is up that needs to be cleared up with by Ratner himself. And yes, dialogue as well as abunch of other things can be changed by the director or the actors to better the story, but it must be agreed upon. You still have no proof if Omega Red is in the movie so quit being a martyr for that cause. Show me proof and I will believe you. Ratner said he is in, Penn said he is not. What does this proove??? NOTHING AT ALL. We are back to where we started. And until Ratner retracts that statement...you have just as much proof as I do. And yes, Santa does exist.

Sentinels a secret? Um, hello, where have you been? Something isn't a secret when people are talking about them being in there left and right. And again, a director CANNOT change anything willly-nilly like adding a character to the film without the writers knowing about it. Your proof is right there in the words of the poeple who wrote the damn film. And the only one acting like any kind of martyr around here is you, pretending like you're fighting some big battle trying to prove one little character is in the film. You keep taking Ratner's word for things, when we know he's said things in the past that he later retracted, like him saying this is the last film, then saying that he wants to make more and there's stuff in the film to lead to more. And again, if Penn couldn't talk about it, he would have just gone on to say it was a spoiler again, not flat out deny it. Who are you going to trust? Someone who has a history of giving out false information, jokes or not, or someone who has gone out of his way to talk directly to the fans and has direct connections to knowing who is and isn't in the film and has given us true information in the past? Yeah, that sounds like a real hard choice. :rolleyes:
 
Specter313 said:
Sentinels a secret? Um, hello, where have you been? Something isn't a secret when people are talking about them being in there left and right. And again, a director CANNOT change anything willly-nilly like adding a character to the film without the writers knowing about it. Your proof is right there in the words of the poeple who wrote the damn film. And the only one acting like any kind of martyr around here is you, pretending like you're fighting some big battle trying to prove one little character is in the film. You keep taking Ratner's word for things, when we know he's said things in the past that he later retracted, like him saying this is the last film, then saying that he wants to make more and there's stuff in the film to lead to more. And again, if Penn couldn't talk about it, he would have just gone on to say it was a spoiler again, not flat out deny it. Who are you going to trust? Someone who has a history of giving out false information, jokes or not, or someone who has gone out of his way to talk directly to the fans and has direct connections to knowing who is and isn't in the film and has given us true information in the past? Yeah, that sounds like a real hard choice. :rolleyes:
First off you misqouted Ratner...he said this is the last film of the trilogy. So you are wrong there. He went on to say this won't be the last X movie. Secondly, sentinels are still a secret...we still have no idea what they do or when they will be in the movie. So yes, sentinels are still a huge secret. And you need to quit generalizing Ratner as a complete liar and Penn as a sacred truth telling god. Ratner was on set everyday and I am sure a lot more than the writers. I never said Omega was going to have a huge role...why couldn't Ratner just hire an extra in the final fight and dress him up like Omega Red??? Omega Red at the most will be a small cameo...he might not even use his tentacles and require CGI. Like I have said, once everyone over at Fox can get their stories straight, then I will believe Penn. Until then, something is fishy and wrong with all of this. And you are a martyr as well as I because you come in here and fight to disprove a character just as much as I do to prove a character. Sorry if I believe the guy who was on set everyday and filmed every scene, knowing who is all in the movie.
 
chaseter said:
First off you misqouted Ratner...he said this is the last film of the trilogy. So you are wrong there. He went on to say this won't be the last X movie. Secondly, sentinels are still a secret...we still have no idea what they do or when they will be in the movie. So yes, sentinels are still a huge secret. And you need to quit generalizing Ratner as a complete liar and Penn as a sacred truth telling god. Ratner was on set everyday and I am sure a lot more than the writers. I never said Omega was going to have a huge role...why couldn't Ratner just hire an extra in the final fight and dress him up like Omega Red??? Omega Red at the most will be a small cameo...he might not even use his tentacles and require CGI. Like I have said, once everyone over at Fox can get their stories straight, then I will believe Penn. Until then, something is fishy and wrong with all of this. And you are a martyr as well as I because you come in here and fight to disprove a character just as much as I do to prove a character. Sorry if I believe the guy who was on set everyday and filmed every scene, knowing who is all in the movie.

No, I didn't misquote him. He clearly stated in the Mtv article awhile back that this would be the last film and later retracted that in later interviews. And again, knowing that Sentinels are in the film makes them no longer a secret. Just because we don't know exactly what they do, that doesn't keep them as a secret. I'm not generalizing anything, I'm using facts and previous experiences. And again, if Penn couldn't talk about Red, then he would have just said "spoiler" and moved on. But no, he said he's not in the film, same as every time someone has asked about Gambit, but I don't see you still saying that he could be in the film. And your arguments are even becoming more muddled. What's the point of putting Red in the movie if he's just gonna be some extra who doesn't do anything? You're grasping at straws now. It doesn't matter the size of the role, it would still have to go through with the writers before he could put him in. And look up the definition of a martyr. That's someone who's like "one against the world" which is what you have been acting like pretending you're the only one sticking up for Red. I'm not a martyr because I'm not the only one who's told you he isn't in the film and I don't pretend like I am. And again, you really need to learn about what you're talking about. A director is not on the set every day nor do they always film every single scene. What do you think assistant and unit directors are for?
 
Specter...you will always be at my throat no matter what so let's agree to disagree shall we. You come up with more agruments and I counter them and this will continue forever and ever. I will say this only once more. Once Ratner retracts his statement...then I will believe you. And no, there are a lot of people in here that think he is still in the film. Go back and read some pages. I am not the only one. This is turning into the "Does Cyclops Die" debate. It will never end until we see the movie May 26th. Until then...touche. And by the way martyr means: one who suffers for the sake of principle [syn: sufferer] 2: one who voluntarily suffers death as the penalty for refusing to renounce their religion v 1: kill as a martyr; "Saint Sebastian was martyred" 2: torture and torment like a martyr. You refuse to give up your views and I refuse to give up mine, we are both martyrs.
 
Ratner and Kinberg need to get together and work this out...and both decide on what to say.
 
Omega Red in X3? That would be so awesome. But I don't think that they'll put him in this one. I count him as a major villian. He alone can whoop the whole of the X-Men. It's a proven fact.
 

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