Apocalypse Oscar Isaac IS Apocalypse - Part 2

[Tg11]

I don't really get the criticisms, he hit all of the right notes for me, he was powerful when he needed to be, could manipulate others and make them more powerful, had a personality and was really tough to take down. I really enjoyed him in the movie.

I know right Oscar played him to perfection

 

[The Guard]

I'm surprised more people don't love this villain.

In terms of adapting Apocalypse into the "real world", they pretty much nailed it.

Oscar was EXCELLENT in this role. Just the perfect balance of comic book supervillain and subtle threat. His charisma came through GOBS of makeup, and he gave a fantastic, subtle performance all things considered.

Visually, he looked just ridiculous enough, but still kind of sci-fi cool. I really liked the evolution of his voice from a soft, soothing whisper to that threatening techo layering. Some great dialogue for Isaacs to chew on, and some great simple, straightforward lines as well.

His powers were well done, as well as the "manipulation" of his Horsemen. I thought his themes were handled well, and his motivations were clear and evolved well from scene to scene. Certainly a better overall villain than Shaw, and in many respects, Trask. He's not Magneto, but he might be one of my favorite comic book movie villains moving forward.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I know right Oscar played him to perfection

Definitely.

I'm surprised more people don't love this villain.

In terms of adapting Apocalypse into the "real world", they pretty much nailed it.

Oscar was EXCELLENT in this role. Just the perfect balance of comic book supervillain and subtle threat. His charisma came through GOBS of makeup, and he gave a fantastic, subtle performance all things considered.

Visually, he looked just ridiculous enough, but still kind of sci-fi cool. I really liked the evolution of his voice from a soft, soothing whisper to that threatening techo layering. Some great dialogue to chew on, and some great simple, straightforward lines as well.

His powers were well done. I thought his themes were handled well, and his motivations were clear and evolved well from scene to scene. Certainly a better overall villain than Shaw, and in many respects, Trask. He's not Magneto, but he might be one of my favorite comic book movie villains.

Nail on head, I loved him, he was great. Isaac is a damn good actor, and his performance managed to shine through.

 

[ciscostudent561]

I'm surprised more people don't love this villain.

In terms of adapting Apocalypse into the "real world", they pretty much nailed it.

Oscar was EXCELLENT in this role. Just the perfect balance of comic book supervillain and subtle threat. His charisma came through GOBS of makeup, and he gave a fantastic, subtle performance all things considered.

Visually, he looked just ridiculous enough, but still kind of sci-fi cool. I really liked the evolution of his voice from a soft, soothing whisper to that threatening techo layering. Some great dialogue to chew on, and some great simple, straightforward lines as well.

His powers were well done. I thought his themes were handled well, and his motivations were clear and evolved well from scene to scene. Certainly a better overall villain than Shaw, and in many respects, Trask. He's not Magneto, but he might be one of my favorite comic book movie villains.

Yup, my only gripe is he didnt get enough interaction with the current world, its leaders. To see their futility in stopping him and their need for help. Also to witness his menacing ways.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yup, my only gripe is he didnt get enough interaction with the current world, its leaders. To see their futility in stopping him and their need for help. Also to witness his menacing ways.

Well he pretty much took any chance they had to fight back away from them when he destroyed all of the nukes? As he said, " no more super powers"

 

[ciscostudent561]

Well he pretty much took any chance they had to fight back away from them when he destroyed all of the nukes? As he said, " no more super powers"

which was cool
they just didnt get visual representation of who he was.
I woulda loved from him to actually take dominion over a world power and demonstrate his ideals immediately, by inciting chaos to hasten the process of "natural selection" and eliminate weakness.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

which was cool
they just didnt get visual representation of who he was.
I woulda loved from him to actually take dominion over a world power and demonstrate his ideals immediately, by inciting chaos to hasten the process of "natural selection" and eliminate weakness.

Ah yeah, I know what you mean, that would have been good, I just don't think they had time for it in the movie.

That's why I am hoping there is a way for Apoc to come back. Maybe Cable messing with the timeline?

 

[ciscostudent561]

Ah yeah, I know what you mean, that would have been good, I just don't think they had time for it in the movie.

That's why I am hoping there is a way for Apoc to come back. Maybe Cable messing with the timeline?

I think there was time, I was saying in another thread

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magneto didnt need that much build up. they coulda change his backdrop to him hiding from the government but Apoc seeking him out after seeing his speech, and Apoc promising him a new world where mutants dominate and the power to do it himself, woulda been good for Magsy i think.They you coulda focused on Apocalypse more

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I think there was time, I was saying in another thread

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magneto didnt need that much build up. they coulda change his backdrop to him hiding from the government but Apoc seeking him out after seeing his speech, and Apoc promising him a new world where mutants dominate and the power to do it himself, woulda been good for Magsy i think.They you coulda focused on Apocalypse more

Well I loved Magneto's arc in the movie so I personally wouldn't like to see it changed.

 

[The Guard]

One thing I really liked...he became more human as the film wore on. The cracks started to show, in both his motivations and his demeanor.

He starts of the film this lofty, regal presence, everything he says and does is measured and calm, and by the end of the movie he's all but rolling his eyes and getting exasperated at Charles Xavier and his Horsemen. He's very controlled emotionally through much of the film, but the mask slips more and more. Neat approach.

 

[ciscostudent561]

yeah i loved Mags' Arc as well. But its not important this film as Apocalypse.
The name of the movie is Apocalypse lol

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

One thing I really liked...he became more human as the film wore on. The cracks started to show, in both his motivations and his demeanor.

He starts of the film this lofty, regal presence, everything he says and does is measured and calm, and by the end of the movie he's all but rolling his eyes and getting exasperated at Charles Xavier and his Horsemen. He's very controlled emotionally through much of the film, but the mask slips more and more. Neat approach.

Don't mention that to some of the people who dislike him as a villain, apparently he didn't develop at all in the movie.

 

[ciscostudent561]

lol @ developing villians
villians generally don't develop in the movie.
They just do what they do and present a conflict for the main protagonist. Essentially if the villian had an arc, and a turning point, the hero would have nothing to do.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

lol @ developing villians
villians generally don't develop in the movie.
They just do what they do and present a conflict for the main protagonist. Essentially if the villian had an arc, and a turning point, the hero would have nothing to do.

Well apparently it's a reason Apoc was poor to some.

 

[ciscostudent561]

Develop was a poor word.
Maybe to say he was shallow, but he wasn't a cliche villian.
More depth then any MCU villian outside of Loki.

HeathJoker had like no back story or any real development.
They just highlighted what makes the character great.
I think XMA did the same thing, the only difference was HeathJoker got more time to shine in the movie.

AGain I wish we had more Apoc

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I'm surprised more people don't love this villain.

In terms of adapting Apocalypse into the "real world", they pretty much nailed it.

Oscar was EXCELLENT in this role. Just the perfect balance of comic book supervillain and subtle threat. His charisma came through GOBS of makeup, and he gave a fantastic, subtle performance all things considered.

Visually, he looked just ridiculous enough, but still kind of sci-fi cool. I really liked the evolution of his voice from a soft, soothing whisper to that threatening techo layering. Some great dialogue for Isaacs to chew on, and some great simple, straightforward lines as well.

His powers were well done, as well as the "manipulation" of his Horsemen. I thought his themes were handled well, and his motivations were clear and evolved well from scene to scene. Certainly a better overall villain than Shaw, and in many respects, Trask. He's not Magneto, but he might be one of my favorite comic book movie villains moving forward.

One thing I really liked...he became more human as the film wore on. The cracks started to show, in both his motivations and his demeanor.

He starts of the film this lofty, regal presence, everything he says and does is measured and calm, and by the end of the movie he's all but rolling his eyes and getting exasperated at Charles Xavier and his Horsemen. He's very controlled emotionally through much of the film, but the mask slips more and more. Neat approach.

Well said, Guard. You're not alone.

 

[BeholdMe]

I'm surprised more people don't love this villain.

In terms of adapting Apocalypse into the "real world", they pretty much nailed it.

Oscar was EXCELLENT in this role. Just the perfect balance of comic book supervillain and subtle threat. His charisma came through GOBS of makeup, and he gave a fantastic, subtle performance all things considered.

Visually, he looked just ridiculous enough, but still kind of sci-fi cool. I really liked the evolution of his voice from a soft, soothing whisper to that threatening techo layering. Some great dialogue for Isaacs to chew on, and some great simple, straightforward lines as well.

His powers were well done, as well as the "manipulation" of his Horsemen. I thought his themes were handled well, and his motivations were clear and evolved well from scene to scene. Certainly a better overall villain than Shaw, and in many respects, Trask. He's not Magneto, but he might be one of my favorite comic book movie villains moving forward.

Yes to this Guard
I thought Oscar was brilliant in the role I meant the scene where

Spoiler

He meets Prof X in cerebro and he is sending those nukes off that performance I felt it through my bones like he delivered that

I really think he did so well with this role and he isn't getting the proper recognition because of other things but he brought Apocalypse to life and really made me love him.

 

[Sithborg]

I loved him. But, I admit to having very fanboy biased goggles on. I don't particularly care to take them off either.

 

[Slushy]

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I am...The Apocalypse! Ha! Ha! Ha!

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

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... He meets Prof X in cerebro and he is sending those nukes off that performance I felt it through my bones like he delivered that

It was also a nice little nod to House of M, specifically Wanda Maximoff's infamous "No more mutants" spell.

 

[Raiden]

Don't mention that to some of the people who dislike him as a villain, apparently he didn't develop at all in the movie.

Movie villains don't usually get developed because the heroes are the focus of the movie and they get the arc and the development. For all the talks about DC having great villains, how about Zod (MOS) and Lex Luthor (BVS)? They are about as one-note as you can imagine. Magneto is really not a typical villain imo but an anti-hero, since he gets more screen time and more development than most of the X-Men, and he appears in every X-Men movie. Only Xavier, Mystique, and Wolverine have about equal or more screen time.

 

[terry78]

I think his motivations were clear, he was worshipped in his era and stressed the strong inherit the earth, and saw the decadence and posturing of the 80s as a step back. Him learning it via the tv is actually a very comic book thing to do.

 

[Snakewise]

Spoiler

How is that possible if he needed the elaborate pyramid setup to transfer into others? Unless it's not a transference as much as it is some kinda lowkey mindcontrol thing.

Spoiler

Well there was his connection to Charles after the failed try to transfer his conciousness. Pyslocke has telepathy so there's something to tie to and I suppose she could still be loyal to Apocalypse, finding a way to help him. Could always have him survive with the astral plane too. I suppose he could have a backup plan by way of being connected someway to his horseman, but I see his ego being too big, not even entertaining the thought he could lose.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Movie villains don't usually get developed because the heroes are the focus of the movie and they get the arc and the development. For all the talks about DC having great villains, how about Zod (MOS) and Lex Luthor (BVS)? They are about as one-note as you can imagine. Magneto is really not a typical villain imo but an anti-hero, since he gets more screen time and more development than most of the X-Men, and he appears in every X-Men movie. Only Xavier, Mystique, and Wolverine have about equal or more screen time.

Exactly, as someone else pointed out, The Joker never developed either and is strongly considered the best CBM villain there is. Apoc did actually change even if it was slightly, but overall I loved him as a villain. Nothing ambiguous about his motivations, he had lived his life as a god felt people had become lost in his absence.

I think his motivations were clear, he was worshipped in his era and stressed the strong inherit the earth, and saw the decadence and posturing of the 80s as a step back. Him learning it via the tv is actually a very comic book thing to do.

I loved him learning through the TV personally. But yeah, his motivations were perfectly clear, he was disgusted at what had become of the world in his absence, he thinks himself a god and thought he had every right to change the world into what he thought it should be.

 

[Charzhin0]

Watched Colliders spoiler review and I agree with Campea when he said they needed to hammer down Apocalypses philosophy of survival of the fittest a little more than they did. We only gotva glimpse of it on the hill scene when he's transmitting his speech.

On that scene, did anyone else absolutely love

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when Charles says he cannot transmit the message to that many people without Cerebro. Then Apocalypse gives the best reaction and look of disgust to Charles and tells him, "you don't need a machine to amplify your powers when you have me". AWESOME acting and line delivery. Really shows Apocalypses hatred for technology and how the weak have become dependant on it and now even powerful mutants such as Prof X.